Crystal S., Haleigh's mother #8

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What would that have to do with wether or not Marie and Crystal were responsible. That was not their LVA it was misty right?

No need to be confused.. Yes, it was Misty's LVA but she was asked WHO she thought was responsible...who her suspects were.. She stated the mother's side of the family because they did not want to pay child support....
The results concerning that question read... FALSE statement..JMO

 

[Emeralgem]

They are viable suspects in my mind, they have reasons that motivate people to do such things. I still haven't cleared a soul. We don't know who is or isn't responsible yet.

Unfortunately,I have to disagree.. IMHO...All the lies and all the inconsistences from The Cummmings lead me back to the Cummings being the ones responsible...JMO

 

[kittylyn461]

No need to be confused.. Yes, it was Misty's LVA but she was asked WHO she thought was responsible...who her suspects were.. She stated the mother's side of the family because they did not want to pay child support....
The results concerning that question read... FALSE statement..JMO

Well as we all have our opinion i will respect your opinion but i think i will stick with my opinion . Agree to disagree.

 

[lil momma]

Why would Ron not want Crystal to know where he lived? After 3 years he would still drive out of his way to meet Crystal to exchange the kids for her visitation. He must of had a good reason to ensure Crystal did not know where he lived. IMO to many where around in this small community that where keeping tabs on Ron and or playing two faced games.

Hi texasmommy!

I think RC was afraid if CS knew where he lived, she would do to him what he has done to her. IMO, He was afraid she would come and steal HC & JR from him, the way he did to CS on HC birthday. But this is all MO

 

[debs]

But they didn't take her in there and Crystal was in Baker County shortly after Haleigh went missing and was gone the night Marie did that interview. No way they let Crystal trample through a crime scene a day or two after Haleigh went missing. What would be the purpose of her being in there anyway? Not like she could tell them anything if she had never been in there before.. she went in there after the trailer was released, Misty was also there and I believe someone else, Wayanne maybe. I don't know who else might have been in there with them.

So then you agree that Marie was probably mistaken as to which home Crystal had been in and the mystery has been solved. Thanks.

 

[texasmommy39]

Hi texasmommy!

I think RC was afraid if CS knew where he lived, she would do to him what he has done to her. IMO, He was afraid she would come and steal HC & JR from him, the way he did to CS on HC birthday. But this is all MO

Morning , I would agree with that!:clap: This whole case stinks with issues that revolve around Crystal and Rons inability to work things out and retaliation on both sides. It is been the main reason my eye has been focused on the Sheffield side. Don't get me wrong.... I have sympathy for Crystal and the circumstances she found her self in over the last 3 years. I have even admitted I would take my kids (steal them back) if I where in her shoes. The difference between Crystal and I is I would of done it a heck of alot sooner and I would of never put up with over bearing parents after the age of 18 nor would I even of allowed Ron the kids until I had custody. Drugs are another issue. I have done my share as a young person and drank, but,it seems these individuals have made it a lifestyle and life time choice and that is again not something I would allow around my children or others that do them. I have to say I am in agreement with others here pot(weed) is not a substance I feel should be illeagal.

 

[lil momma]

Morning , I would agree with that!:clap: This whole case stinks with issues that revolve around Crystal and Rons inability to work things out and retaliation on both sides. It is been the main reason my eye has been focused on the Sheffield side. Don't get me wrong.... I have sympathy for Crystal and the circumstances she found her self in over the last 3 years. I have even admitted I would take my kids (steal them back) if I where in her shoes. The difference between Crystal and I is I would of done it a heck of alot sooner and I would of never put up with over bearing parents after the age of 18 nor would I even of allowed Ron the kids until I had custody. Drugs are another issue. I have done my share as a young person and drank, but,it seems these individuals have made it a lifestyle and life time choice and that is again not something I would allow around my children or others that do them. I have to say I am in agreement with others here pot(weed) is not a substance I feel should be illeagal.

ITA!!!!! i have to say, i would have done the same thing. No way will i expose my child to that type of lifestyle. I agree that to socially drink, not drive with the kiddies.

On top of it all i would have never lived in an area with that many RSO.. that scares the poo right out of me.

Imo, the only two i feel for right now is HC & JR. No matter what did happen to her, She & JR are the ones who are at a loss. I feel that RC & CS & MC should be held accountable for what has happened to HC. I think all of their past behaviors is what has caused this.

If CS fought harder RC wouldn't have had the children and HC would still be here.

If RC had left the kids with GGM, instead of MC HC would still be here.

If MC would just tell the truth HC could be here already.

JMO

 

[texasmommy39]

You mean like the Sheffield grandpa and his wife? The ones who helped raise Haleigh? Who moved to KY a few months ago?

My client's ex wouldn't let her walk to the front door to pick up the children for visitation. Why? He was the jilted husband and he fought for, and won, custody. He wouldn't let the children out of the house 5 minutes early for visitation nor would he let them out of the house 5 minutes late. EXACTLY 6:00pm. She waited on the street in front of the house every morning to drive the kids to school and he would verbally abuse her the entire time she waited for the children. Whatever she bought for the kids, he threw away, despite their tears. People get nuts after divorce.

The family tree of both the Griffis and Sheffield clans are entwined in this and many surrounding communities and counties add in friends and associates its a mass of eyes and ears that could be activly involved before and after.
I admit I have taken into account the statements and actions of the Cummings (that includes Misty now) that would lend some credance to Ron being the one that was controlling Crystals involvement in her childrens lives, but, have not heard it put to the extent mentioned above. I do not condone using children against the other parent after divorce or seperation of the childs parents. IT IS WRONG!!!! The children suffer, not the adult parent and it is a continued cycle that is very damaging to all involved. My point is< I do not believe that Ron was just a controlling as*, but, possible a loving and concerned father that was continually being put on the defence against this family , because he got his kids the way he did and had all the control over the situation. I firmly believe that it is a good chance that this is an continuation of this type of conflict between these two and the grandparents. Poor Misty was ment to be the scape goat I am afraid for a crime she did not commit,but, was so conveniantly available and the last person that would of seen HaLeigh. The physical evidence ( that does not contridict Misty's story) revealed to us from the begining points to an inside job (kitchen light on screen door propped and NO FORCED ENTRY). The thing is this crime makes no sence but was obviously planned. It stinks of corruption and "inconsistancies and I am not talking about Misty's.

 

[Donjeta]

The family tree of both the Griffis and Sheffield clans are entwined in this and many surrounding communities and counties add in friends and associates its a mass of eyes and ears that could be activly involved before and after.
I admit I have taken into account the statements and actions of the Cummings (that includes Misty now) that would lend some credance to Ron being the one that was controlling Crystals involvement in her childrens lives, but, have not heard it put to the extent mentioned above. I do not condone using children against the other parent after divorce or seperation of the childs parents. IT IS WRONG!!!! The children suffer, not the adult parent and it is a continued cycle that is very damaging to all involved. My point is< I do not believe that Ron was just a controlling as*, but, possible a loving and concerned father that was continually being put on the defence against this family , because he got his kids the way he did and had all the control over the situation. I firmly believe that it is a good chance that this is an continuation of this type of conflict between these two and the grandparents. Poor Misty was ment to be the scape goat I am afraid for a crime she did not commit,but, was so conveniantly available and the last person that would of seen HaLeigh. The physical evidence ( that does not contridict Misty's story) revealed to us from the begining points to an inside job (kitchen light on screen door propped and NO FORCED ENTRY). The thing is this crime makes no sence but was obviously planned. It stinks of corruption and "inconsistancies and I am not talking about Misty's.

Could you explain what you mean by inside job? The Sheffield and Griffis clans didn't have access to that trailer so I'm not sure how they did an inside job.

 

[texasmommy39]

Could you explain what you mean by inside job? The Sheffield and Griffis clans didn't have access to that trailer so I'm not sure how they did an inside job.

IMVHO The trailer was staged! The truth is we do not know if the Sheffields had not gotten a key to the MH. My understanding is there where a few keys made and if HaLeigh (she loved purses remember and believe me little girls fill them with all kinds of stuff and a found key would be a great find for HaLeigh and possible would make her feel grown up) could of had one or found one. The fact is it was possible for the Sheffields to get access to a key and had it copied and to state it isn't is just not realalistic IMO.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

IMVHO The trailer was staged! The truth is we do not know if the Sheffields had not gotten a key to the MH. My understanding is there where a few keys made and if HaLeigh (she loved purses remember and believe me little girls fill them with all kinds of stuff and a found key would be a great find for HaLeigh and possible would make her feel grown up) could of had one or found one. The fact is it was possible for the Sheffields to get access to a key and had it copied and to state it isn't is just not realalistic IMO.

This is exactly what happened in the Barbara (can't temember her last name) case. She got her ex-husband's keys to his new house where his new wife Linda Koslowski lived and entered in the early morning hours and shot/murdered them claiming she went to committ suicide there. It's been done.

 

[Donjeta]

Ok, that's possible.

I'm sure LE has ascertained how many keys there were and Ron has told them if one of them is missing.

 

[lil momma]

IIRC, Ron said he was the only person with a key to that MH. I am not sur eif he stated that MC didn't have one, or it if has just been assumed...JMO

 

[texasmommy39]

Ok, that's possible.

I'm sure LE has ascertained how many keys there were and Ron has told them if one of them is missing.

The key would not necasarily be missing and yes if I remember correctly the Key possibility has been looked at by LE and a statement had been made by someone that was there about LE coming to the Sheffield tent asking about a spare key. Disclaimer here I AM NOT STATING THIS TO BE FACT.

 

[Donjeta]

Hopefully he, Misty and LE have carefully gone over any chances that anybody could have had to borrow a key and make a copy. They hadn't lived there long so there can't be that many people. It's different when it's been decades in the same house, same keys, purses missing several times....

 

[Baxter]

IMVHO The trailer was staged! The truth is we do not know if the Sheffields had not gotten a key to the MH. My understanding is there where a few keys made and if HaLeigh (she loved purses remember and believe me little girls fill them with all kinds of stuff and a found key would be a great find for HaLeigh and possible would make her feel grown up) could of had one or found one. The fact is it was possible for the Sheffields to get access to a key and had it copied and to state it isn't is just not realalistic IMO.

Crystal and Marie didn't even know where Ronald lived.

 

[mck16]

Crystal and Marie didn't even know where Ronald lived.

That is a sad state of affairs when you don't know where your children live. JMO

 

[Baxter]

That is a sad state of affairs when you don't know where your children live. JMO

When the father won't let you know, what choice do you have? I agree, it is sad.

 

[Whisperer]

Sad state of affairs when a father can steal children and file custody..be on drugs at the same time claiming CS was, with absolutely no proof. However, there is proof RC was inolved in the drug market with two arrests for drugs that year...one being just weeks before he won custody...That is sad and tragic!!

For the record, Crystal tried many times....you may want to read what happened to her when she tried. It may be contemplated that perhaps Crystal did what she had to do and hoped and prayed her children would be safe, if she wasn't around. His rage was bad when she was around. She sure wasn't allowed around him. He had total control, yet many do not see this dark side of him.

 

[stilettos]

When the father won't let you know, what choice do you have? I agree, it is sad.

Yep...sad.....when a man with a major rap sheet for drugs and assault is lauded as a good Father....when a Mother is kept from knowing where her kids live. Blaming Crystal to keep the focus off of Ronald's hinky no worky.