Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #25

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Sure, but you wouldn’t want it in your Quickbooks financial reports-wouldn’t you keep a separate, handwritten ledger for that?
Its funny that you say this about the financial records.

We do have the Family Court testimony where FD was to have given handwritten financial pieces of paper to his then Atty (Pytranker) and the Atty prepared the necessary financial documents for the court.

Maybe there are no Quickbooks.

Hope Atty Weinstein gets to the bottom of what is and isn't available in terms of financial information.

MOO
 
Is FD timing The response time of parole/LE officers or monitoring company to his house? This would give him the approximate time where he can escape before Someone actually comes to check on him in person, not just a phone call. He realizes even more now he is in trouble and escape is his only out. That’s why he wanted the monitor on his wrist, easy off. JMOO.

If the judge gives him only a warning, he will try to flee
Absolutely! Gone with the Schwinn. Testing...1...2...3...4...

Hard to have much faith in the system with this information coming to light.

MOO
 
My opinion? No way. She's an opportunist. An unfeeling narcissist. But she knows how to appear as a waif so she can get out of trouble.

I've seen it so many times in court. They walk in looking frail and helpless. But in the hall where the judge can't see they're confident and cruel.

There are tells. Watch her sign the paperwork. There's no frailty there. Her signature is done with flourish. Decisiveness. She's confident in her counsel and daddy's ability to extricate her from trouble. She's used to getting what she wants.

I believe she is cold and calculating. And evil.

Thank you for this....I watched the video over and over AND slowed it down when it came to the signing. I said to myself, if that was me, that pen would be shaking like a leaf. NOPE - slow and steady!
 
Fotis Dulos won't say how attorneys are being paid
A judge has sided with Fotis Dulos, ruling this week that his company will not have to undergo a review of business finances as part of the $2.5 million lawsuits filed against him by his mother-in-law.
Hartford Superior Court Judge Cesar Noble issued the ruling Tuesday, one day after attorney William Murray, representing Fotis Dulos, filed an objection to the inspection.
HHD-CV-18-6088970-S FARBER, GLORIA, EXECUTOR OF THE ESTATE OF HILLIARD v. FORE GROUP, INC. Et Al

Notice Issued: 09/18/2019
Docket Number: HHD-CV-18-6088970-S
Case Caption: FARBER, GLORIA, EXECUTOR OF THE ESTATE OF HILLIARD v. FORE GROUP, INC. Et Al
Notice Sequence #: 9

JDNO NOTICE

ORDER REGARDING:
08/20/2019 198.00 OBJECTION RE DISCOVERY OR DISCLOSURE

The foregoing, having been considered by the Court, is hereby:
ORDER: OVERRULED

The court overrules all objections as follows:

Request for Production #4. The objection is overruled. The disclosure of the financial statements sought is reasonably calculated to lead to the discovery of admissible evidence as they may contain information relevant to how the defendant, Fotis Dulos and/or Fore Group, characterized funds obtained from Hilliard Farber, i.e., whether as loans or gifts, and/or evidence relevant to the third count of the complaint asserting a claim to pierce the corporate veil as the statements may show signs of commingling of funds. Prac. Book § 13-2. Finally, any interest in the confidentiality of the records, sealed or not, is over ridden by the requirements of disclosure in this civil action.

Request for Production #5. The objection is overruled. The disclosure of expense reimbursements documentation is reasonably calculated to lead to the discovery of admissible evidence as relevant to the allegations of the third count seek to pierce the corporate veil of Fore Group Inc. and its predecessor companies.


JDNO 1/2
I am getting tripped up with the language here. Need some help please.

Atty Weinstein made a number of discovery requests (think it was 5-6).

Atty Murray filed his objections to the discovery requests in list order.

Isn't the Judge here simply saying that as it relates to the Request for Production 4 and 5, that the Atty Murray objection is overruled? Meaning to me that FD has to comply with items 4 and 5?

To me this would mean that the scope of the discovery request made by Atty Weinstein is narrowed a bit but not that the Judge disallowed all the Atty Weinstein discovery requests.

I think the headline by the SA is misleading. I will go back to the documents and try to puzzle this out. But my recollection is that Atty Weinstein made 5-6 discovery requests in the original motion.

MOO
 
Pattis must be absolutely apoplectic !!!
Reading that order is a breakfast treat!!!
Good news!

So we might just get to see who the 'Mysterious Greek Benefactor is" aka The Person Behind the Curtain that is greasing the skids of Pattisville and FD ongoing manipulation of the CT Legal System IMO.

But more importantly some much needed financial records might finally make it possible for Atty Weinstein to work his case!

MOO
 
Am doing the old skim and scan to catch up on the discussion. One of the things I don't understand about the monitoring devices is who is in charge of monitoring them?
From some of the discussions it appears that the bonding agencies do this. Is that correct? How often do the companies write reports to the court? What is considered a serious breach of security? For instance, if the battery went to zero, would the bonding company call the person wearing the device or notify local PD?

This entire situation is unclear to me.
Yes, this is usually farmed out to private companies. There are exceptions in states like Oregon, who do not have private bail bondsmen. The private company reports to whoever the sheriff has designated and this report should come quickly after noncompliance, especially in a serious case like this. It is. of course, forwarded to the State and the court.

The failure to keep the device charged 4 times, after warning, is not minor in any sense of the word, despite Pattis' usual "so what" response. Messing with those batteries will get defendants locked up, at least in places other than CT. It is also made crystal clear to all defendants who are given the privilege of pretrial release exactly what is required of them and I have never, ever seen a bad battery account for the failure of the device to keep a charge. With that happens, the defendant is called in the battery, or even the whole device replaced and that is the end of it. Dulos is definitely, 100 % , no doubt, testing the limits of this device and even Mr. Pattis must know this, despite his usual schtick.

Of course, Mr. Pattis is going to shake his head and say meh. To date, his client has suffered zero repercussions for his conduct. I may have to come up with a new phrase (and I bet the prosecutors in CT already have). What is the Pattis response?"Sir, your client has been found with a dead body in his trunk." Pattis."So what? What's the big deal? Is murder even illegal is this state? It wasn't murder, the victim shot herself and threw herself in the back of my client's car to get back at him. Revenge suicide! He loves his children. Bring it on! Where are the cameras! I want full exposure to rebut all the lies the prosecution isn't telling! Get my buddy Dave on the line. My client is being framed, those batteries deliberately went dead to spite my client."

The Pattis response will be the new label for making a molehill out of a mountain and vice versa as it benefits his client. Facts are, of course, irrelevant to the Pattis response.
 
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Nice! Signaling Foo DoDo?!
This is pretty alarming, isn't it? It does look like a Greek Orthodox cross on the medallion, and she is not Greek, so what else can it mean? And are her two fingers some sort of sign that she is still in alliance with him? Maybe reaching too hard but something smells rotten in the state of Darien. I am not buying her blow-dried flat-ironed hair for court appearances where she should be less concerned with how she looks, and her defiant tone even in the info. she gave, as if she were annoyed by the whole thing. Where is a single drop of empathy for these children she hoped to set-parent and their ACTUAL ADORING AND ADORED MOTHER? Where is her empathy for an older lady who has just lost her precious daughter? She's a stone cold b*&&. She huffs around with her mommy and daddy with zero regard for the tragedy she has co-created. She is a collaborator in murder, there is simply no other excuse for not coming forward in horror to tell everything she knows about what her lover did. She has blood on her hands and ice in her heart. Sorry, I needed to vent, MOO, MOO, MOO.
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I am getting tripped up with the language here. Need some help please.

Atty Weinstein made a number of discovery requests (think it was 5-6).

Atty Murray filed his objections to the discovery requests in list order.

Isn't the Judge here simply saying that as it relates to the Request for Production 4 and 5, that the Atty Murray objection is overruled? Meaning to me that FD has to comply with items 4 and 5?

To me this would mean that the scope of the discovery request made by Atty Weinstein is narrowed a bit but not that the Judge disallowed all the Atty Weinstein discovery requests.

I think the headline by the SA is misleading. I will go back to the documents and try to puzzle this out. But my recollection is that Atty Weinstein made 5-6 discovery requests in the original motion.

MOO
I agree. This was a big, big loss for Dulos. Weinstein can probably get by with what he already has on the financials, but forcing Pattis to say where the money came from is quite significant.
 
Thank you for this....I watched the video over and over AND slowed it down when it came to the signing. I said to myself, if that was me, that pen would be shaking like a leaf. NOPE - slow and steady!
The fact that she and her attorney said not a word yesterday and once again were out of there in two minutes, indicates, imo, that she is still holding back information.
She should know by now that she and FD are in trouble deep. I predict she’ll be singing soon. JMO.
 
Yes, this is usually farmed out to private companies. There are exceptions in states like Oregon, who do not have private bail bondsmen. The private company reports to whoever the sheriff has designated and this report should come quickly after noncompliance, especially in a serious case like this. It is. of course, forwarded to the State and the court.

The failure to keep the device charged 4 times, after warning, is not minor in any sense of the word, despite Pattis' usual "so what" response. Messing with those batteries will get defendants locked up, at least in places other than CT. It is also made crystal clear to all defendants who are given the privilege of pretrial release exactly what is required of them and I have never, ever seen a bad battery account for the failure of the device to keep a charge. When a problem with the battery occur, the defendant is called in and the battery, or even the whole device, is replaced and that is the end of it. Dulos is definitely, 100 % , no doubt, testing the limits of this device and even Mr. Pattis must know this, despite his usual schtick.

Of course, Mr. Pattis is going to shake his head and say meh. To date, his client has suffered zero repercussions for his conduct. I may have to come up with a new phrase (and I bet the prosecutors in CT already have). What is the Pattis response?"Sir, your client has been found with a dead body in his trunk." Pattis."So what? What's the big deal? Is murder even illegal is this state? It wasn't murder, the victim shot herself and threw herself in the back of my client's car to get back at him. Revenge suicide! He loves his children. Bring it on! Where are the cameras! I want full exposure to rebut all the lies the prosecution isn't telling! Get my buddy Dave on the line. My client is being framed, those batteries deliberately went dead to spite my client."

The Pattis response will be the new label for making a molehill out of a mountain and vice versa as it benefits his client. Facts are, of course, irrelevant to the Pattis response.
 
The fact that she and her attorney said not a word yesterday and once again were out of there in two minutes, indicates, imo, that she is still holding back information.
She should know by now that she and FD are in trouble deep. I predict she’ll be singing soon. JMO.
No one was talking on either side and that is exactly how these type of court appearances go down. Pattis knows the State wants to charge Dulos with murder. That is no secret. What he doesn't know is what MT has told LE; that is exactly as it should be in an ongoing investigation. MT's silence in the courtroom is SOP.
 
So if Murray didn’t object to each one, then they waived any objection and must respond. This order addresses the requests to which they objected and denied all of the objections. Therefore they have to respond to all discovery requests.
I am getting tripped up with the language here. Need some help please.

Atty Weinstein made a number of discovery requests (think it was 5-6).

Atty Murray filed his objections to the discovery requests in list order.

Isn't the Judge here simply saying that as it relates to the Request for Production 4 and 5, that the Atty Murray objection is overruled? Meaning to me that FD has to comply with items 4 and 5?

To me this would mean that the scope of the discovery request made by Atty Weinstein is narrowed a bit but not that the Judge disallowed all the Atty Weinstein discovery requests.

I think the headline by the SA is misleading. I will go back to the documents and try to puzzle this out. But my recollection is that Atty Weinstein made 5-6 discovery requests in the original motion.

MOO
 
Yes, this is usually farmed out to private companies. There are exceptions in states like Oregon, who do not have private bail bondsmen. The private company reports to whoever the sheriff has designated and this report should come quickly after noncompliance, especially in a serious case like this. It is. of course, forwarded to the State and the court.

The failure to keep the device charged 4 times, after warning, is not minor in any sense of the word, despite Pattis' usual "so what" response. Messing with those batteries will get defendants locked up, at least in places other than CT. It is also made crystal clear to all defendants who are given the privilege of pretrial release exactly what is required of them and I have never, ever seen a bad battery account for the failure of the device to keep a charge. With that happens, the defendant is called in the battery, or even the whole device replaced and that is the end of it. Dulos is definitely, 100 % , no doubt, testing the limits of this device and even Mr. Pattis must know this, despite his usual schtick.

Of course, Mr. Pattis is going to shake his head and say meh. To date, his client has suffered zero repercussions for his conduct. I may have to come up with a new phrase (and I bet the prosecutors in CT already have). What is the Pattis response?"Sir, your client has been found with a dead body in his trunk." Pattis."So what? What's the big deal? Is murder even illegal is this state? It wasn't murder, the victim shot herself and threw herself in the back of my client's car to get back at him. Revenge suicide! He loves his children. Bring it on! Where are the cameras! I want full exposure to rebut all the lies the prosecution isn't telling! Get my buddy Dave on the line. My client is being framed, those batteries deliberately went dead to spite my client."

The Pattis response will be the new label for making a molehill out of a mountain and vice versa as it benefits his client. Facts are, of course, irrelevant to the Pattis response.
lololol, excellent! If I knew how to create a meme, I would!
 
No one was talking on either side and that is exactly how these type of court appearances go down. Pattis knows the State wants to charge Dulos with murder. That is no secret. What he doesn't know is what MT has told LE; that is exactly as it should be in an ongoing investigation. MT's silence in the courtroom is SOP.
SOP?
 
I do not believe that the issue is a bad battery meaning the battery no longer will take a charge reliably like happens with some, especially older, items like with older-generation cell phones and computers. However much it pains me to say, I guess it COULD be possible but as you noted, the judge doesn’t seem to think it’s a battery issue but more likely operator defiance. I still think it’s like an animal testing the fence—trial runs. MOO.
Honestly, why must everything be so high tech today? They never had this problem when used the old ball and chain!
 
I am getting tripped up with the language here. Need some help please.
MOO

I think the headline is referring to the Pattis motion not to disclose where his payment is coming from but the story is about several of the Murray and Weinstein Motions.

The Judge ruled on several motions yesterday and Tuesday.
 
It looks more like a Greek cross necklace or a Constantine pendant to me. It's not a Wiccan/Celtic one (I have one). If the Greek symbol, perhaps a gift from him? https://www.etsy.com/listing/700925287/14k-solid-gold-constantine-coin-necklace

Also - there is a photo of her when in court, holding a piece of yellow paper in her right hand, next to her lawyer - while the left hand made what looked (to me) like a symbol, with two fingers out. Sort of like the peace sign sideways, or simply, "two"?

From the SA (with photo popped out):
https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/05/57/67/18283980/31/1024x1024.jpg

She's making a similar gesture here (from SA, with link popped out):
https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/05/57/67/18283985/31/1024x1024.jpg

ETA: photo link
It looks like she’s “throwing gang signs”! lol. From what I could find, her’s was the letter “k”. Hmmmm...
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