Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #32

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Aydrianna523 YOU HAVE IT! Kudos!

I put a link to AW2 in this thread this morning so you can see the pictures in full color (copy in Media Thread too).

Just keep in mind as you read through the Press Coverage (including virtually ALL that has been said by Atty P. IMO up until the time the "Gag Order" was imposed), that FD and MT had a multi page "Alibi Script" where they wrote down what they were going to tell LE about what they did during the critical time period around the disappearance date (4/24)-most of the "Alibi Script' is believed to NOT be true.

This "Alibi Script" issue puts a cloud IMO over virtually everything that was said initially in the case, in particular by Atty. P. FD has done Dateline
(short intr0) and the case has been covered by Dr. Phil and Dr. Oz.

FD and MT both repeated the "Alibi Script" to their attys for over 2 months after the disappearance of JD and then Atty P. repeated the "Alibi Script" along with various other theories that have been discredited IMO on RECYCLE to virtually any member of the press that was available and when that wasn't possible he would go on the Chas and AJ radio show (their shows are archived online and so you can hear Pattis speak if you are so inclined) and simply chat some more.

In particular Dave Altimari and David Owens of the Hartford Courant who appear quite connected to Atty. P. repeated/reposted the "Alibi Scripts" in their articles, so reading these articles can be a bit confusing if you have knowledge of AW1 and AW2. The other issue with the Press coverage and IMO the HC coverage in particular is that it is believed that there were various LE leaks to the Press as well as the misleading "Alibi Script" info. So, through a lot of discussion I think its fair to say that reference to a 'bloody knife' allegedly found in a trash can in the area of Albany Avenue but then traded by the homeless person that found it for crack (we DK if LE ever found the person (his name was Fudge)) and the bloody knife in Hartford and first reported in the HC is an example of this situation as is a "car mat" believed to have been from JD Suburban and which was found in front of a Mexican Restaurant on Albany Avenue. To be noted is that neither AW1 or AW2 refer to either the bloody knife OR the car mat.

Due to the presence of the "Alibi Scripts" most of the comments on the thread now refer to AW1 and AW2 info and not the prior Press reports which are believed to be mainly "Alibi Script" driven. Its tough because LE has not spoken directly about the "Alibi Scripts" so we don't know precisely what is on/off the list but all the great minds here have I think sorted though most of it and I think there is general consensus around the contents of the list for the most part. But we do know from AW2 that the "Alibi Scripts" exist and that MT lied to LE for over 2 months by repeating the 'Alibi Scripts' to LE. Blessedly MT lawyer, Atty Bowman doesn't speak with the press so the only comments to be particularly careful of IMO are those made by Atty. P. LE has never really spoken publicly about the case much and so the reliance on WS has been court documents and the 2 AWs.

FD ATTYS (many): Pattis-criminal/Murray & Mawhinney-Civil/Habib-Foreclosure/Rochin-Family/Markowitz-Real Estate not involved presently except as Witness in Civil Case and he was replaced by Habib.

States Atty Colangelo (lead Atty for State of CT)

GF Attys: Weinstein-Civil and Foreclosure and Dranginis-Family Court

One of the more tragically comic aspects of this sad case has been FD Atty Kent Mawhinney (KM) who was initially part of the Civil Case and is a longstanding friend of FD. KM has his own issues and so has his own thread here on WS associated with his very contentious divorce and his arrest for spousal rape. While we don't know for sure that it was KM that was part of the "Alibi Scripts" for 4/24, the general belief is that the FD original alibi (Alibi Script) involved a call from Greece and a meeting with an atty in his house. This atty meeting was believed to be KM and the general view is that it didn't occur or couldn't occur because FD was allegedly per AW2 in NC at Welles. Here is the article about KM and there are many more in the Media thread and the KM thread here on WS. Fotis Dulos’ lawyer refuses to say whether he was with Dulos the day missing New Canaan mother Jennifer Farber Dulos disappeared

Quote from article above TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF THE ALIBI SCRIPTS IN ACTION IN THE PRESS:

“What we know is that Jennifer went missing some time in the early morning of the 24th and was reported missing by late day,” Pattis said in court. “We’ve been able to account for Mr. Dulos’ whereabouts with independent evidence for almost all of that time, including an early-morning meeting at his home with an attorney.”[BBM - believed to be an example of the 'Alibi Scripts']

"Pattis did not name the lawyer, but sources have told The Courant it was Mawhinney".

Other:

Atty Habib (new addition to FD legal crew) probably should have his own thread here on WS too as he was just arrested on Halloween for allegedly selling drugs to minors in a school zone.

Hope this helps!

MOO
Yes, every bit helps. I want to be able to understand what I'm reading here.
I did hear there was an alibi script, but I don't know the details. Probably just as well. (It did remind me of Parick Frazee and his alibi script when I heard of it).
I'll be checking out the AW2 post from today, although that one might have been covered by the GHughes video that I just saw tonight. I don't remember the #s of the AWs GH covered, though.
I'll check out that article about km too. Again thx
This case reminds me of the recent cases in CO with cw and pf. It sounds like the motive is money and sex, and probably control.
 
Wow. I didn't know how much info there was in this case.
I figured out who MT is. Her atty is Bowman?
I figured out who FD is. He lived at 4jx in Farmington, Hartford Cty with MT. His lawyers are Murray and Pattis.
He has a business ForeGroup, same locale. His worker (PG) let FD use his truck the day of JD's disappearance.
Foregroup has property for sale:
4Jx and Mtn Springs in Farmington. And...
Sturbridge in New Canaan. A neighbor heard loud banging there at 5am.
JD, the deceased, is GF's daughter. Her location was New Canaan.
GF lives in NYC Her lawyer is Weinstein.
There's a bunch of other lawyers and judges, as well, one being Noble. Yikes. Lots to remember.
Next to see GHughes video. I'm determined to try to figure this out.
Welcome!

I was impressed by this other comprehensive reporting by NBC CT...
timelines, arrest warrant, mapping, etc

Investigation Continues Into Disappearance of Jennifer Dulos
 
He’d burn bank records. Even foreign accounts. Although I doubt he ever kept them close by.
Remember JD talking about FD getting a gun recently? She wrote that into an affidavit for Judge Heller.
Where’s the gun? Surely LE knew about it but I don’t recall a gun being on the list of items taken from the house. I suppose they inventoried everything back at the station. I wonder if it was ever shot?
This gun spoken about by JD in Family Court was supposedly taken by FD to Farmington PD and removed from 4Jx.

The gun referenced by JD in Family Court was allegedly illegally bought to CT from FL by FD.

If FD was able to bring a gun illegally from FL once, then what or who is to say that he didn't do it again?

Based on AW1 and 2 we do not know much of anything from LE about the scene in the Welles garage. We don't know the manner or cause of death and we can only speculate about the extent of blood loss at Welles as none of these details were contained in either AW1 or AW2.

LE stated that they had reason to believe a 'serious physical assault' occurred at Welles in AW1 and then in AW2 we see the LE statement that the 'body' of JD was believed to be in the Suburban leaving Welles on 4/24 that was allegedly driven by FD.

AW1 stated also that LE saw several stains on the garage floor and on a vehicle located in the garage when they checked the house during their initial look for JD. We have speculated that the Nanny LA had the Range Rover so it was not in the garage. JD per AW2 returned to Welles in the Suburban and so the 3rd car (believed to be present in the garage) was a Porsche Cayenne. Also noted in AW1 were suspected multiple areas of blood spatter and evidence of attempts to clean up the crime scene.

So, we know from LE about 'serious physical assault' and 'body' at Welles and most likely in garage where AW2 stated that:

Quote from article below (link in article to AW2):

"Police believe Fotis Dulos was "lying in wait at 69 Welles Lane for his wife to return home" from dropping off their kids at school the morning of May 24. That's where police say a physical assault occurred in the garage".

A closer look at Fotis Dulos' arrest warrant

A bit of information about blood spatter: The physics of blood spatter – Physics World
 
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Bringing this article over from the PF thread about how cell phones were used in that case.

Given that FD and MT by all accounts based on what we know so far were aware of the traceability of cell phones and how FD allegedly left his cell phone at 4Jx on 4/24, it will be interesting to see how cell phone tracking works in the Dulos case going forward. We know LE tracked FD and MT cell phones on Albany Avenue as they were getting rid of evidence in trash bins along a 4 mile stretch. We have information of cell phone path of FD cell phone on the afternoon of 4/24 in AW1 and AW2.

How cell phone analysis helped convict Patrick Frazee
 
He’d burn bank records. Even foreign accounts. Although I doubt he ever kept them close by.
Remember JD talking about FD getting a gun recently? She wrote that into an affidavit for Judge Heller.
Where’s the gun? Surely LE knew about it but I don’t recall a gun being on the list of items taken from the house. I suppose they inventoried everything back at the station. I wonder if it was ever shot?

DBM-redundant
 
This gun spoken about by JD in Family Court was supposedly taken by FD to Farmington PD and removed from 4Jx.

The gun referenced by JD in Family Court was allegedly illegally bought to CT from FL by FD.

If FD was able to bring a gun illegally from FL once, then what or who is to say that he didn't do it again?

Based on AW1 and 2 we do not know much of anything from LE about the scene in the Welles garage. We don't know the manner or cause of death and we can only speculate about the extent of blood loss at Welles as none of these details were contained in either AW1 or AW2.

LE stated that they had reason to believe a 'serious physical assault' occurred at Welles in AW1 and then in AW2 we see the LE statement that the 'body' of JD was believed to be in the Suburban leaving Welles on 4/24 that was allegedly driven by FD.

AW1 stated also that LE saw several stains on the garage floor and on a vehicle located in the garage when they checked the house during their initial look for JD. We have speculated that the Nanny LA had the Range Rover so it was not in the garage. JD per AW2 returned to Welles in the Suburban and so the 3rd car (believed to be present in the garage) was a Porsche Cayenne. Also noted in AW1 were suspected multiple areas of blood spatter and evidence of attempts to clean up the crime scene.

So, we know from LE about 'serious physical assault' and 'body' at Welles and most likely in garage where AW2 stated that:

Quote from article below (link in article to AW2):

"Police believe Fotis Dulos was "lying in wait at 69 Welles Lane for his wife to return home" from dropping off their kids at school the morning of May 24. That's where police say a physical assault occurred in the garage".

A closer look at Fotis Dulos' arrest warrant

A bit of information about blood spatter: The physics of blood spatter – Physics World

If he bought a gun illegally, brought it out of state, and then took it to the police station, why were the police not all over him? He has already committed 2 crimes by doing so, and they did nothing? How do we know he ever got rid of it? Was it self reported by FD to Jennifer that he did so? I wonder what the real story is-either he bought it legally and it was properly licensed in CT, or he never turned it in. Or a third possibility was that the police decided not to pursue charges against a rich educated man, because he couldn’t possibly be a problem...
 
If he bought a gun illegally, brought it out of state, and then took it to the police station, why were the police not all over him? He has already committed 2 crimes by doing so, and they did nothing? How do we know he ever got rid of it? Was it self reported by FD to Jennifer that he did so? I wonder what the real story is-either he bought it legally and it was properly licensed in CT, or he never turned it in. Or a third possibility was that the police decided not to pursue charges against a rich educated man, because he couldn’t possibly be a problem...
It was reported that the gun was turned in to the police, and eventually they notified FD that he could get it back (likely he completed or showed compliance with whatever requirements needed to legally possess it) but FD never went and picked it up from the police station.
(That doesn’t mean that he didn’t buy or otherwise obtain another one of course).

Source: the “downward spiral” article
Before being jailed in connection with the disappearance of Jennifer Farber Dulos, her estranged husband, Fotis Dulos, faced a downward spiral in his business and marriage
 
Jennifer Dulos disappearance: Fotis Dulos to testify in civil suit trial

HARTFORD — Fotis Dulos is expected to testify in his own defense when his mother-in-law’s $2.5 million civil lawsuits filed against him go to trial next month.

Gloria Farber and the estate of her late husband Hilliard filed the lawsuits in early 2018, close to 18 months before their daughter Jennifer Dulos disappeared.

The trial will be decided by a judge and is expected to last two to three days, starting Dec. 3.

Attorney William Murray, representing Fotis Dulos in the civil lawsuits, said he has “no worries” about his client testifying during the trial.

Murray, his client and others involved in the case met Thursday with Hartford Superior Court Judge Cesar Noble, who is overseeing the trial, to discuss legal issues pertaining to the lawsuits. The conference was held in Noble’s chambers and was not open to the public.



The lawsuits claim Fotis Dulos owes the family more than $2.5 million in loans made to him and his high-end real estate development company, Fore Group. Fotis Dulos claims the money was a gift from the family and no promissory notes or contracts were signed.
 
Aydrianna523 YOU HAVE IT! Kudos!

I put a link to AW2 in this thread this morning so you can see the pictures in full color (copy in Media Thread too).

Just keep in mind as you read through the Press Coverage (including virtually ALL that has been said by Atty P. IMO up until the time the "Gag Order" was imposed), that FD and MT had a multi page "Alibi Script" where they wrote down what they were going to tell LE about what they did during the critical time period around the disappearance date (4/24)-most of the "Alibi Script' is believed to NOT be true.

This "Alibi Script" issue puts a cloud IMO over virtually everything that was said initially in the case, in particular by Atty. P. FD has done Dateline
(short intr0) and the case has been covered by Dr. Phil and Dr. Oz.

FD and MT both repeated the "Alibi Script" to their attys for over 2 months after the disappearance of JD and then Atty P. repeated the "Alibi Script" along with various other theories that have been discredited IMO on RECYCLE to virtually any member of the press that was available and when that wasn't possible he would go on the Chas and AJ radio show (their shows are archived online and so you can hear Pattis speak if you are so inclined) and simply chat some more.

In particular Dave Altimari and David Owens of the Hartford Courant who appear quite connected to Atty. P. repeated/reposted the "Alibi Scripts" in their articles, so reading these articles can be a bit confusing if you have knowledge of AW1 and AW2. The other issue with the Press coverage and IMO the HC coverage in particular is that it is believed that there were various LE leaks to the Press as well as the misleading "Alibi Script" info. So, through a lot of discussion I think its fair to say that reference to a 'bloody knife' allegedly found in a trash can in the area of Albany Avenue but then traded by the homeless person that found it for crack (we DK if LE ever found the person (his name was Fudge)) and the bloody knife in Hartford and first reported in the HC is an example of this situation as is a "car mat" believed to have been from JD Suburban and which was found in front of a Mexican Restaurant on Albany Avenue. To be noted is that neither AW1 or AW2 refer to either the bloody knife OR the car mat.

Due to the presence of the "Alibi Scripts" most of the comments on the thread now refer to AW1 and AW2 info and not the prior Press reports which are believed to be mainly "Alibi Script" driven. Its tough because LE has not spoken directly about the "Alibi Scripts" so we don't know precisely what is on/off the list but all the great minds here have I think sorted though most of it and I think there is general consensus around the contents of the list for the most part. But we do know from AW2 that the "Alibi Scripts" exist and that MT lied to LE for over 2 months by repeating the 'Alibi Scripts' to LE. Blessedly MT lawyer, Atty Bowman doesn't speak with the press so the only comments to be particularly careful of IMO are those made by Atty. P. LE has never really spoken publicly about the case much and so the reliance on WS has been court documents and the 2 AWs.

FD ATTYS (many): Pattis-criminal/Murray & Mawhinney-Civil/Habib-Foreclosure/Rochin-Family/Markowitz-Real Estate not involved presently except as Witness in Civil Case and he was replaced by Habib.

States Atty Colangelo (lead Atty for State of CT)

GF Attys: Weinstein-Civil and Foreclosure and Dranginis-Family Court

One of the more tragically comic aspects of this sad case has been FD Atty Kent Mawhinney (KM) who was initially part of the Civil Case and is a longstanding friend of FD. KM has his own issues and so has his own thread here on WS associated with his very contentious divorce and his arrest for spousal rape. While we don't know for sure that it was KM that was part of the "Alibi Scripts" for 4/24, the general belief is that the FD original alibi (Alibi Script) involved a call from Greece and a meeting with an atty in his house. This atty meeting was believed to be KM and the general view is that it didn't occur or couldn't occur because FD was allegedly per AW2 in NC at Welles. Here is the article about KM and there are many more in the Media thread and the KM thread here on WS. Fotis Dulos’ lawyer refuses to say whether he was with Dulos the day missing New Canaan mother Jennifer Farber Dulos disappeared

Quote from article above TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF THE ALIBI SCRIPTS IN ACTION IN THE PRESS:

“What we know is that Jennifer went missing some time in the early morning of the 24th and was reported missing by late day,” Pattis said in court. “We’ve been able to account for Mr. Dulos’ whereabouts with independent evidence for almost all of that time, including an early-morning meeting at his home with an attorney.”[BBM - believed to be an example of the 'Alibi Scripts']

"Pattis did not name the lawyer, but sources have told The Courant it was Mawhinney".

Other:

Atty Habib (new addition to FD legal crew) probably should have his own thread here on WS too as he was just arrested on Halloween for allegedly selling drugs to minors in a school zone.

Hope this helps!

MOO

You can't write a fictional murder novel with so many twists and shady characters and have it be believable. This case proves the truth is stranger than fiction.
If there wasn't a missing and most likely murdered woman, mother of 5 and lovely person at the bottom of this mess it would be laughable.
 
You can't write a fictional murder novel with so many twists and shady characters and have it be believable. This case proves the truth is stranger than fiction.
If there wasn't a missing and most likely murdered woman, mother of 5 and lovely person at the bottom of this mess it would be laughable.
Haha!

Absolutely can't disagree with you but the incredible thing about this entire situation is that I'm not even sure we yet know a fraction of the story/situation!

Given the characters involved and visible so far and who surrounded FD and MT (and their respective families IMO) and the cast of characters it almost seems inevitable that more sad twists and turns in future days IMO.

LE no doubt has its hands full putting the puzzle together and that is no doubt what is taking time.

Tick tock for FD and MT, Tick Tock......

MOO
 
Jennifer Dulos disappearance: Fotis Dulos to testify in civil suit trial

HARTFORD — Fotis Dulos is expected to testify in his own defense when his mother-in-law’s $2.5 million civil lawsuits filed against him go to trial next month.

Gloria Farber and the estate of her late husband Hilliard filed the lawsuits in early 2018, close to 18 months before their daughter Jennifer Dulos disappeared.

The trial will be decided by a judge and is expected to last two to three days, starting Dec. 3.

Attorney William Murray, representing Fotis Dulos in the civil lawsuits, said he has “no worries” about his client testifying during the trial.

Murray, his client and others involved in the case met Thursday with Hartford Superior Court Judge Cesar Noble, who is overseeing the trial, to discuss legal issues pertaining to the lawsuits. The conference was held in Noble’s chambers and was not open to the public.



The lawsuits claim Fotis Dulos owes the family more than $2.5 million in loans made to him and his high-end real estate development company, Fore Group. Fotis Dulos claims the money was a gift from the family and no promissory notes or contracts were signed.

Would love to be able to sit in on this trial.

Hope we get to see FD "get angry" 'cause we saw a little bit of that angry face in one of the television interviews....He'll have a difficult time containing his indignation as the Farber family asks him to be responsible for his financial debts!

BTW...Is this a jury trial?
 
Would love to be able to sit in on this trial.

Hope we get to see FD "get angry" 'cause we saw a little bit of that angry face in one of the television interviews....He'll have a difficult time containing his indignation as the Farber family asks him to be responsible for his financial debts!

BTW...Is this a jury trial?
nope
the Judge decides
 
I have been looking as some other cases involving spouses allegedly murdering their SO in CT, with a focus on no body cases.

This sad case of Connie Dabate (body of wife was found in house) seems to finally be going to trial but oddly the WS thread is almost non existent. What is interesting is that the States Atty in this case offered a plea deal (details unknown) to the husband (involved with an affair and sidepiece had just had baby at time of wife's murder) but the deal was declined so if convicted could get over 60 years in prison. The case (murder occurred in 2015 and arrest was made in 2017) and is scheduled for trial in early 2020 has a good amount of publicly available information, including MSM with over 140+ witnesses scheduled. The reason I've been looking at this case was to try and figure out the delay in getting from the murder date to arrest day and then another significant delay to trial. I wasn't sure if this case was simply that complex or were other factors involved? IDK, still reading!

I'm going to try to build up the information in the thread in advance of trail but this will be the first case in CT where information from a Fitbit will be critical to the case. The NYT wrote an article on this Fitbit data and how it helped the investigation back in 2017. The other interesting aspect of this case was that in advance of being murdered (gunshots), it appears that an attempt was made on the victim's life by stuffing the tailpipe of her car with rags.

CT - Connie Dabate, 39, murdered in her Ellington home, 23 Dec 2015 *husband arrested*
 
Would love to be able to sit in on this trial.

Hope we get to see FD "get angry" 'cause we saw a little bit of that angry face in one of the television interviews....He'll have a difficult time containing his indignation as the Farber family asks him to be responsible for his financial debts!

BTW...Is this a jury trial?

I very much wonder if FD will actually speak at trial? Could we see him invoke the 5th as we saw with MT? Its curious that FD seems willing to speak at this trial so I'm wondering why his legal team would be OK with that happening given how Atty Bowman is taking the absolute opposite approach with MT?

So far as the online record indicates there is zero evidence that a 'gift' from FIL exists in this case as the overall situation simply seems to be a sham IMO.

MOO
 
Haha!

Absolutely can't disagree with you but the incredible thing about this entire situation is that I'm not even sure we yet know a fraction of the story/situation!

Given the characters involved and visible so far and who surrounded FD and MT (and their respective families IMO) and the cast of characters it almost seems inevitable that more sad twists and turns in future days IMO.

LE no doubt has its hands full putting the puzzle together and that is no doubt what is taking time.

Tick tock for FD and MT, Tick Tock......

MOO

That is exactly what I think-and I think there are many more participants involved!
 
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I very much wonder if FD will actually speak at trial? Could we see him invoke the 5th as we saw with MT? Its curious that FD seems willing to speak at this trial so I'm wondering why his legal team would be OK with that happening given how Atty Bowman is taking the absolute opposite approach with MT?

So far as the online record indicates there is zero evidence that a 'gift' from FIL exists in this case as the overall situation simply seems to be a sham IMO.

MOO
He won’t take the 5th. They may have something “interesting” to say. I guess we just wait and see.
 
A little off the direct topic, though still involves FD...MOO

KM is scheduled for court TOMORROW, NOVEMBER 22

53a-70b SEXUAL ASSAULT-SPOUSE/COHABITR
53a-182 DISORDERLY CONDUCT
53a-96 UNLAWFUL RESTRAINT 2ND DEG
https://www.jud2.ct.gov/crdockets/C...ding&Key=070325a6-226f-4c21-9a26-85a8633097c4

53a-223* VIOLATION OF PROTECTIVE ORDER
https://www.jud2.ct.gov/crdockets/C...ding&Key=3cfc49b7-5bd0-4ebf-9bde-1f1e379ee61b
Thanks for this. I put a copy into his thread:

CT - CT - Kent Mawhinney, 54, South Windsor, 21 Jan 2019 *Arrest*
 
I have been looking as some other cases involving spouses allegedly murdering their SO in CT, with a focus on no body cases.

This sad case of Connie Dabate (body of wife was found in house) seems to finally be going to trial but oddly the WS thread is almost non existent. What is interesting is that the States Atty in this case offered a plea deal (details unknown) to the husband (involved with an affair and sidepiece had just had baby at time of wife's murder) but the deal was declined so if convicted could get over 60 years in prison. The case (murder occurred in 2015 and arrest was made in 2017) and is scheduled for trial in early 2020 has a good amount of publicly available information, including MSM with over 140+ witnesses scheduled. The reason I've been looking at this case was to try and figure out the delay in getting from the murder date to arrest day and then another significant delay to trial. I wasn't sure if this case was simply that complex or were other factors involved? IDK, still reading!

I'm going to try to build up the information in the thread in advance of trail but this will be the first case in CT where information from a Fitbit will be critical to the case. The NYT wrote an article on this Fitbit data and how it helped the investigation back in 2017. The other interesting aspect of this case was that in advance of being murdered (gunshots), it appears that an attempt was made on the victim's life by stuffing the tailpipe of her car with rags.

CT - Connie Dabate, 39, murdered in her Ellington home, 23 Dec 2015 *husband arrested*

Thanks for bringing this case up; I haven’t heard of it before. Sounds like there are several similarities here.
 
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