Deceased/Not Found CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #35

[bkgregg5]

I think she would need to post a guard to stop him as he’s so arrogant he may continue to feel entitled to her property IMO
He’d break a window to get in is my guess

Then maybe she could nail him and have him arrested for breaking and entering. Wishful
Thinking I know.

 

[soccy]

I read somewhere that they were 3ft zip ties ? Are those even a thing ? Where would you get those and why ?

Thanks, I had no idea they could be so large. I also wonder where he obtained them. I will be curious to see if FD's accomplices purchased items like zip ties for him.

 

[sleuth66]

I read somewhere that they were 3ft zip ties ? Are those even a thing ? Where would you get those and why ?

Readily available at Home Depot, see below. FD was spotted at Norwalk HD a lot right after the disappearance. Now he wants an exception to home detention to be able to go out to the hardware store.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Forney-36-in-Black-UV-Protec…

 

[Alathea]

I was under the impression that she was killed quickly, but perhaps we are now learning that is not the case. Are you thinking that she may have been beaten or even tortured? If he is the narcissist that he seems to be, he might have.

Yes. And the doctor says beaten is a possibility as well.

GRUESOME ALERT - MORE DIRECT THAN PREVIOUS POST:

I think he's the type - just like his lawyer buddy KW was with his own wife - to rape her. Hence, the zip ties, which were apparently around HER, to restrain her. They were apparently not around the outside of the bag, where one would use them after killing someone - even then, their use would not be likely.

If he wanted to just kill her, he would not restrain her first - it would increase the chance of her getting away.

Sorry, I know that's upsetting to read, but I think that's what he did before killing her, and he did have the time.

I do think he's that sick, and it's the ultimate control move, to hurt her emotionally as much as he possibly could.

Why else remove her clothing, and why "cut" underwear, as stated in the AW?

I've tried to think of "better" scenarios, but this one makes the most sense after reading the last AW.

 

[andalso]

I think you're remembering how right after his release, he was constantly accompanied by his CamelBack

I think you are right. Thanks!

 

[Nudgee]

I’m not sure what to make of it. Riding a bicycle while carrying an axe, sounds pretty difficult.

At the same time, it makes sense due to the blood splatter.

This sort of thing seems to happen a lot. Law enforcement conducts a search, but doesn’t find a particular item. A secondary search turns up that item, as the suspect believed they were in the clear after the initial search was completed, and returned it to the place where they previously kept it.

So it’s intriguing.

True.... unless it was a short handle axe, then he could have tucked the handle down the waist of his pants and had a flat side of the axe against his body under the hooded sweatshirt. Chilling to think.

And now with all this time that has passed, FD has had plenty of time to clean the axe. If the axe is a potential weapon used, makes you wonder why he didn't give the axe back to the friend right away.... and why it took LE so long to check the axe lending story out.

As you said..... so intriguing!!

 

[soccy]

I have been away from the thread for work for awhile. Do we have any financial forensic evidence - for example bank account details on all 3 which I am calling financial forensics ?

 

[Curious in CT]

Not sure if you are referring to me to 'correct my assumptions'. I never said anything such about the current nanny. I stated the current nanny has worked for the family a long time - 7 years. And she provided police with excellent information.
I said the nanny who hit JD's mother-in-law in the driveway did stay on with the family afterward, I guess for a while. I do not know how long but remember reading an article they kept her employed after and I was surprised they would still let her watch their children after such a horrific accident.

Yep - agreed! - sorry if our posts weren't clear!

 

[andalso]

3 words. Jennifer's words.

"Sickening revenge fantasy"

He/They did that.

We know FD has a siccccckkkkk mind so....I wanted to believe she was not tortured and dismembered or dissolved, but I can no longer do that.

If this man posts bond tomorrow I hope the whole state of CT shows up wearing purple.

 

[bestill]

I read somewhere that they were 3ft zip ties ? Are those even a thing ? Where would you get those and why ?

I could see using that size for hay or straw bales possibly, edited to add that I don't think that's why he had them at all. He probably bought them where you would buy lime, an ax, etc

 

[MDATCA]

I'm sure this has been discussed, but it's really weird how much MT tried to pattern herself after JdF, whom she could never match in any way. The hair straightened and dyed to approximate her look. Her seething jealousy clearly inflamed this situation. She didn't just want JdF's husband, she wanted her life-- her house, her kids' school, her territory, her whole being. That disgusting comment she made about how she was cleaning the house not Jennifer-- a very telling slip. And her barely-contained rage, as has been noted, when she discovered her little paramo had lied about where he visited the children. She's a pretty horrible piece of work and I'm glad yellow is the new orange, it brings out her sallow expression.

She wanted the respect and class that JFD had from "the old american money crowd". It was never going to happen.
The reality is she grew up in the 70s and 80s in Miami well off but was still a Latino. I am sure she must have faced racism from the wealthy white kids and wanted their acceptance more than anything. She was desperate to get the approval from that crowd no matter the cost. Too bad that what you did just made you despised even more.

 

[MassGuy]

I could see using that size for hay or straw bales possibly.

My guess is that they’re used in construction as well (to bundle materials).

 

[BellaVita]

I was under the impression that she was killed quickly, but perhaps we are now learning that is not the case. Are you thinking that she may have been beaten or even tortured? If he is the narcissist that he seems to be, he might have.

I am in agreement with @Alathea. People don't want to think about it but I believe it's very possible she was verbally taunted, degraded and tortured. I think FD wanted her to feel terror before she died. No way to prove it and only JMO.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Fotis Dulos may be able to post bail Thursday, his attorney said. If he is released, he will be placed under house arrest and barred from contact with his children.

Fotis Dulos, who has denied any role in her disappearance, wore a blazer, dress shirt and jeans at the arraignment. His lawyer, Norman Pattis, noted Jennifer Dulos' body has not been found.

“What we have is a suspicious disappearance and an entirely circumstantial case,” Pattis told reporters after the court hearings. “After this great length of time, I expected to see a forensic display that was breathtaking. I saw nothing.”

Also arraigned Wednesday were Fotis Dulos' former girlfriend, Michelle Troconis, and his friend, attorney Kent Mawhinney, who are each charged with conspiracy to commit murder. Police accuse them of helping Fotis Dulos cover up the killing, including by drawing up a bogus alibi for him.

Judge John Blawie set Troconis' bail at $1.5 million and Mawhinney's bail at $2 million. Both were arrested Tuesday after police took Fotis Dulos into custody at his Farmington home. Troconis' lawyer, Andrew Bowman, said he expected her to post bail Thursday.

Lawyers for Troconis and Mawhinney have not publicly addressed the allegations.

In Connecticut, defendants may be released after paying a bail bondsman 7% to 10% of their total bail, with the bondsman on the hook for the full amount if the defendant disappears.
Husband in missing mom case ordered held on $6 million bail - LakePlacidNews.com | News and information on the Lake Placid and Essex County region of New York - Lake Placid News

 

[RoosterRock]

He was finishing work at 61 Sturbridge Hill when she went missing. I'm unsure what the progress of his Farmington properties at Sky View or Olcott Way was.

Apparently there was a permit he got to pour cement at one of the properties he owns around that time as well, LE searched it.[/QUOte

Is he still working? Idk if he's still lecturing at UNH or advising in any official capacity, but I believe I remember him giving his opinion on this case early on.

ETA: Saw the comment that he's retired. That's what I assumed given his age and tarnished rep.

Tarnished reputations go to the wind...we need all hands on deck all brain power...they need to get these charges to stick for a life sentence and if I am dealing the cards all three get tickets and good old NP gets no new business as ethics are non-existent. Keep up the search!

 

[MassGuy]

I am in agreement with @Alathea. People don't want to think about it but I believe it's very possible she was verbally taunted, degraded and tortured. I think FD wanted her to feel terror before she died. No way to prove it and only JMO.

I think he would have loved to do those things, but probably didn’t have the time. To say he was battling the clock, is an understatement.

Regardless, this woman suffered every person’s worst nightmare. She arrived home to an empty house, and was attacked by the boogeyman.

The horror of that is incomprehensible.

 

[soccy]

Yes. And the doctor says beaten is a possibility as well.

GRUESOME ALERT - MORE DIRECT THAN PREVIOUS POST:

I think he's the type - just like his lawyer buddy KW was with his own wife - to rape her. Hence, the zip ties, which were apparently around HER, to restrain her. They were apparently not around the outside of the bag, where one would use them after killing someone - even then, their use would not be likely.

If he wanted to just kill her, he would not restrain her first - it would increase the chance of her getting away.

Sorry, I know that's upsetting to read, but I think that's what he did before killing her, and he did have the time.

I do think he's that sick, and it's the ultimate control move, to hurt her emotionally as much as he possibly could.

Why else remove her clothing, and why "cut" underwear as in the AW?

I've tried to think of "better" scenarios, but this one makes the most sense after reading the last AW.

This is so sick. It has to be awful to be killed by your spouse even if you have problems, but the additional pre-killing abuse...I feel for her. This will be hard for her family to hear and her kids to digest.

 

[Outforjustice]

Readily available at Home Depot, see below. FD was spotted at Norwalk HD a lot right after the disappearance. Now he wants an exception to home detention to be able to go out to the hardware store.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Forney-36-in-Black-UV-Protec…

Not a fan of Judge Blawie’s Order allowing FD to leave his house to “work”!

Gimme a break ..

How does House Arrest” = leaving your house?
I wouldn’t consider that “ House Arrest “.

FD can tell his probation officer that he needs to work “everyday” . FD Is now able to get in his car and “ check on” his properties Around town , hit Starbucks Drive -thru on his way , Home Depot, HomeGoods , grocery store (he needs crazy glue )?, he can basically go anywhere and everywhere he wants within reason . Plus , a few unaccounted for stops along the way to his
“Job site” visits .

FD could even claim he needs to go golfing , out to dinner, shooting at a gun club to meet with and procure “potential investors”.

Pathetic

Moo




“House Arrest

First off, FD has no job and his fake office is located in a wing of his home so, where does he need to go .

 

[Alathea]

This is so sick. It has to be awful to be killed by your spouse even if you have problems, but the additional pre-killing abuse...I feel for her. This will be hard for her family to hear and her kids to digest.

Yes, that's why I didn't post it after reading the AW at first.

I finally posted it because I think it shows who he really is. (I also think it's more common than most people want to admit. Most cultures, including ours, just don't want to admit this sort of thing happens. They won't discuss it.)

But the "kidnapping" charge is related to that in a way, I think, and must be very difficult for the family --- EXCEPT that it might get him LWOP, if he is convicted of the kidnapping charge as well.

LWOP would at least be some peace to that family.

 

[oceancalling]

I see @oceancalling is back too! I'd love to hear some insight, if possible!

I have many thoughts, but I am not sure where to begin. MT is in deep, way deeper than I had previously thought. IMO she not only knew where the Devil, a/k/a Fotis Dulos was going, and what he was going to do, on the day he murdered Jennifer, she also deliberately created an alibi for herself that day. What does that mean? Pre-knowledge and pre-planning, that's what! Those new warrants were bombshells. MT most certainly helped clean up and dispose of Jennifer's body (assuming Jennifer was already dead when the Devil brought her to Farmington, something we can no longer do).

I always thought the sleazy lawyer, a/k/a Defendant #3 was part of a Dulos' fake alibi and I believe I even expressed surprise that the C Team ran with that "alibi" without ever corroborating it first. But did I ever imagine he was involved to level set forth in that warrant? No way! He is in deep and looks very rough. Drinking away his sorrows? How long will he hang tight for FD?

Finally, the question of bond. In most states, the Devil would be ineligible for bond because it would be a capital case, and bond is not available in such instances. Since CT does not have a death penalty, I assume the rules are different there. Six million isn't a small number and I assume there may have been a legal challenge of some sort if he has a constitutional right to pretrial release in CT, so perhaps that is how the bond was set.

But, but, but... what surety company would be dumb enough to write a bond that large for a guy from Greece? The Devil's finances are a mess and, at least on paper, he is virtually penniless. Does he have enough money in his 401(k), which he used to post bond last go round, to post this new bond?

If not, where is he going to get the money to indemnify a surety company to the tune of 6 million dollars if he flees? Now, I feel certain he has been embezzling from the Farbers for a very long time. How much has he squirreled away in Greece? That remains to be seen. Still, posting that kind of bond isn't going to be easy without a whole lot of "help."

I am less than thrilled about the leak to Pattis just before the Devil's arrest; Coangelo cannot be pleased. Pattis got there just in time for the cameras. What a surprise. He is such a stereotypical sleazy TV lawyer, but he lacks one very important defense tool. The Truth. We know what is in the arrest warrants and that information in itself is beyond damning. There is much more Truth to come.

Mr. Dulos has spent his entire life creating an image of successful business jet setter, man of wealth and power. In reality, he is a monster, who wore a mask just long enough to fool a loving, caring woman into marrying him and having his children. His evil did not start because of a bad divorce, or stress over money, or a nagging mistress. He has been evil for a very, very long time. He had also been planning this murder for a long, long time. I will be surprised by nothing I hear at trial. Not now.

I never doubted for a minute that Dulos murdered Jennifer. I don't think any of us did. We also suspected that MT continued to lie because she was avoiding admitting her role in this murder, and that suspicion has also proven to be the case.

When I first began reading this site and posting here, I did not understand the depth of the commitment of the posters here. When I returned to my own work, I have done so with a newfound respect for our justice system. The investigative work that was done by LE in this case was beyond exceptional.

I think Pattis will try this case (he and his associate, who thinks a cowboy hat adds height and gravitas-it doesn't). Dulos will never admit guilt IMO. He isn't human enough to ever accept responsibility for his many crimes.