Deceased/Not Found CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #42

[Alkali13]

Ha! Or maybe just having to pay the parking meter. Kind of strange that hospital has meter parking, right?

It is strange to me. In New Haven, we have garages. You just pay whatever you owe when you leave.

 

[MassGuy]

Dulos Attorney Kevin Smith told us they will comment on Dulos’ condition “at the appropriate time.” No idea when that will be. @News12CT

Marissa Alter on Twitter

 

[Jmoose]

If he was so confident that he was innocent I think he could toughen up and spend a few months in jail to prove to his family, his children and the community that he had no involvement in killing his STBX. JMO

Exactly what I was thinking. Unlikely that a truly innocent person (and I don’t mean one who helped plan the murder but didn’t literally pull it off) would prefer to kill themself to avoid a temporary stay in jail.

 

[Chloe_ee]

I’m torn between He timed it so he wouldn’t die just get sympathy to get outta jail until a bail could be set up to well he messed up the timings and got irreversible damage but either way fd dun facked up. It’s so quiet on the mt km front not a peep

Yes, I think 'attempt' gone wrong; was for FD flying chopper scene over head, lots of drama and chaos, when a dazed and stumbling and needing the hospital FD scene happened in the driveway - gets him to hospital - stall for time, try to find more bond/money...I think the hose - at the ready was part of the scenery..and a back up plan in case he ever 'needed' the ultimate out..

But that carbon monoxide got him good, he couldn't stumble out of the garage..for his audience..

This attempt has me thinking of Scott Peterson; not to judge crimes but sheesh - Lacy was pregnant and due any day now..and even he didn't try to commit suicide to avoid a bond hearing..FD is so entitled, he didn't want to spend day behind bars on a crime - he committed..

FD honestly never thought JD would be reported missing within hours; and he NEVER EVER thought his threats to get my kids would go CHALLENGED by the nanny and he never got those kids..(and the money that came with them). He was supposed to have gotten away with all of this...and gotten the kids, the houses and the money...

 

[Nocturnal19]

good afternoon all... can someone give me the link to the livestream? Make my life easier so I don't have to go searching for pages lol

Livestream

 

[1&2&3]

Here is the video as they emerged from Jacobi Medical Center’s public visitor lobby. They stopped behind a pillar. Then went back inside the visitor center. Norm was with Fotis’ sister Rena Dulos.
@FOX61New
Matt Caron on Twitter

*in an out like the taint team

Was Rena the blonde lady coming from the parking area on the left?

It looked to me like that NP either walked outside to meet her or was leaving as she was arriving. It is probably too cold to stand outside to talk.

 

[kpm]

Dulos Attorney Kevin Smith told us they will comment on Dulos’ condition “at the appropriate time.” No idea when that will be. @News12CT

Marissa Alter on Twitter

That sounds to me that it will be after he’s dead.

 

[afitzy]

Aren’t they still trying to figure out who actually has power of attorney here? Life death decisions are up to the spouse (Jennifer the one they are claiming is alive somehow). Good luck with trying to get his relatives able to make a decision at this point. Attorneys? Want to weigh into the fray? If he has no living will who at this stage can control any decisions about his medical care?

Someone posted earlier that in NYS a sister can make decisions.

https://ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/advancedirectives.pdf

IF YOU DON’T HAVE AN ADVANCE DIRECTIVE

If you have lost the capacity to make decisions about your medical treatment, and have not appointed a health care agent, a person close to you may make decisions on your behalf. In 2010 the New York Legislature passed the Family Health Care Decisions Act (FHCDA),7 which allows family members and others who are close to you to make decisions regarding medical treatment in accordance with your wishes or, if unknown, your best interests. The “surrogate” decision maker would also be permitted to direct the withdrawal of life-sustaining treatment (including consenting to a DNR order).

The best way to ensure that your specific wishes are met is to
select a Health Care Proxy and complete a living will as described in this booklet. Otherwise, you will not be able to control how you receive care while you are incapable of making a decision.

Designation of a Surrogate

If you are declared incapable of making medical decisions and do not have a health care proxy, the FHCDA provides for the designation of a “surrogate” decision maker to make medical decisions for you as outlined under New York law.

The law establishes a prioritized list by category of those who may act as the surrogate decision maker for the incapacitated person. The surrogate may be, in order of priority, the court-appointed guardian, spouse, child (eighteen years or older), parent, sibling (eighteen years or older), or close friend.8 This person may also designate a person with lower priority to be the surrogate, assuming no one with higher priority can take the role. For example, if you do not have an Article 81 guardian and your spouse is not willing to serve, your willing adult child will be your surrogate. Your adult child may also appoint your willing parent as surrogate.

Decisions a Surrogate Can Make

The surrogate has authority to make all health care decisions that the patient would have been able to make prior to becoming incapacitated.9 The surrogate is obligated to follow religious or moral beliefs, if known. If those beliefs are not known, the surrogate must make decisions that will be in the patient’s best interests.10

Surrogates are entitled to have access to your medical records in order to make decisions on your behalf. They may also seek out information from your doctor about your condition and treatment options to make the most informed medical decisions.11

If the Patient’s Wishes and Beliefs Are Unknown,

the surrogate must make decisions that will be in the patient’s best interests. According to the FHCDA, those interests take into account “consideration of the dignity and uniqueness of every person; the possibility and extent of preserving the patient’s life; the preservation, improvement or restoration of the patient’s health or functioning; the relief of the patient’s suffering; and any medical condition and such other concerns and values as a reasonable person in the patient’s circumstances would wish to consider.”

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Decisions to Withdraw Life-Sustaining Treatment

If you made the decision to withdraw life-sustaining treatment before becoming incapacitated, your doctor need not seek the surrogate’s permission or knowledge before following those orders. If your doctor followed those orders before your surrogate was appointed, he or she merely needs to document the action in your medical record. If your doctor intends to follow through on that decision after the appointment of a surrogate, your doctor may follow that order without permission from the surrogate, but must inform or attempt to inform the surrogate of the decision.12

The law ensures that life sustaining treatment will not be withheld or withdrawn from you without serious consideration. For example, there must be a finding that treatment would be an extraordinary burden to you and an attending physician, with another physician, must concur to a reasonable degree of medical certainty. Other requirements include finding that you have an illness or injury which can be expected to cause death within six months, whether or not treatment is provided; or that you are permanently unconscious; or that treatment would involve such pain and suffering that it would be reasonably deemed inhumane or extraordinarily burdensome and that you have an irreversible or incurable condition.13

Patient Objections

As the patient, you may object to:

• Thedeterminationofyourincapacity;

• The choice of surrogate; and
  
  
• The health care decision made by your surrogate.
  
  In the event you disagree with any of these determinations, your determination will be followed by your doctor. However, if a court determines that you lack capacity and (if applicable) authorizes the treatment decision, you cannot override these determinations. Further, if there is some other legal basis for overriding your decisions, you will be subject to the choices made by your surrogate.14
  

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[dlharris2712]

I finally figured out who attorney Smith reminds me of...Prince Albert in a Can...!!!

 

[MassGuy]

That sounds to me that it will be after he’s dead.

That’s my expectation as well. It wouldn’t surprise me if that means “in a few hours.”

 

[Jmoose]

DBM

 

[Boxer]

Dbm

 

[bestill]

He went back in without the suitcase and the large bag he walked out with.

 

[afitzy]

It is strange to me. In New Haven, we have garages. You just pay whatever you owe when you leave.

It looked to be typical NYC on street meter parking. Hard to see, so this is just a guess. Range of time could be anywhere from 1-3 hrs until you need to feed again but its impossible to know without seeing the meter.

 

[kpm]

That’s my expectation as well. It wouldn’t surprise me if that means “in a few hours.”

Yup

They had to have private time, doctor time and wait time, grief time

 

[Sherlockhemlock]

Ha! Or maybe just having to pay the parking meter. Kind of strange that hospital has meter parking, right?

I suppose it depends on the hospital. Both of our local ones have valet parking.

 

[dlharris2712]

Actually...this is who he (Atty Smith) reminds me of...

 

[oviedo]

@LittleBitty someone posted that there was a medical power of attorney up thread but I think it came from NP&co. I may have copied it to the media thread
Eta link
NP said in his interview yesterday that "some family members have a durable healthcare power of attorney".

https://www.wplr.com/podcasts/

 

[LittleBitty]

Someone posted earlier that in NYS a sister can make decisions.

https://ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/advancedirectives.pdf

IF YOU DON’T HAVE AN ADVANCE DIRECTIVE

If you have lost the capacity to make decisions about your medical treatment, and have not appointed a health care agent, a person close to you may make decisions on your behalf. In 2010 the New York Legislature passed the Family Health Care Decisions Act (FHCDA),7 which allows family members and others who are close to you to make decisions regarding medical treatment in accordance with your wishes or, if unknown, your best interests. The “surrogate” decision maker would also be permitted to direct the withdrawal of life-sustaining treatment (including consenting to a DNR order).

The best way to ensure that your specific wishes are met is to
select a Health Care Proxy and complete a living will as described in this booklet. Otherwise, you will not be able to control how you receive care while you are incapable of making a decision.

If he does have a directive? And it is still Jennifer how does that work?

 

[kimch33kim]

there is rena the face does not appear that red. but NP is strategically blocking her face,