Deceased/Not Found CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #43

[Jmoose]

But after the suicide attempt NP appears with high-profile bondsman Judelman and says he should've gotten him right from the beginning.

Exactly-so where was the law firm of Pattis & Smith when Fd thought he had to cobble this together by his own stupid self?

 

[Jmoose]

I don't see how it would matter that FD is deaday. He has never talked to LE and doubtful he would testify so cases would remain the same. IMO.

Then why the h**l does NP think the gag order is kaput? I really hope that some judge reads it to him next week!

 

[pernickety]

Legal clarity on the issue of pursuing the co-conspirators absent case against Fd (@Seattle1):

Thanks, Afitzy. I had no idea FTS was available before usual Sunday broadcast. Good interview with McG.

 

[Alathea]

Why didn't KS electronically file a motion for an extension of time for a few hrs at least, saying NP out of town, he can't reach FD. Contacted GPS monitor. Asked for LE to make wellness check.

Things I wonder:

Did KS even try to contact him? Was he not Fauxtis's appointed minder that morning - whether assigned or merely assumed?

Didn't NP tell KS to keep track of Fd?

Did NP have a fight with Fd that made Fd feel deserted from his self-proclaimed Christ figure (NP, that is)?

Did they not know they had a fragile ego for a case, at the very least?

Why didn't Fd mention NP in the note? He was closer to him than most people at that point.

Did Fauxtis ever mention to his lawyers that he might do such a thing (commit suicide) if things got bad? People often do mention it ahead of time.

 

[Alathea]

Then why the h**l does NP think the gag order is kaput? I really hope that some judge reads it to him next week!

I'm sure he knows very well it's not kaput, and the Court needs to remind him of that, ASAP.

 

[squareandrabbet]

wonder if Norm heard that....
Usually when your defendant dies that's the end of your case and the end of your billing. haha

Well, NP's providing lots of fodder for his fellow members of the bar... including those who might want to consider embarking upon a second career as a standup comedian. He's quite a giver, that guy!!!

 

[sds71]

Did you see anything he sold?

People usually take the listings down after it’s sold.
If the things are still up you can tell by the inside of the house or the garage.

 

[MsBetsy]

Then why the h**l does NP think the gag order is kaput? I really hope that some judge reads it to him next week!

Could there be any consequences for him releasing the suicide letter?
Since it's a violation of the gag order is there anything the judge can do?

ETA Or is it not considered evidence?
Maybe not, otherwise why would LE turn it over to him.

Imo

 

[aaron44]

With Fd no longer of this earth what is the path forward in the legal process to bring "Justice For Jennifer"?

Does the state have to prove Fd as the killer in order to complete the handling of MT and KM? Does Fds taking his own life allow the state to disclose all evidence not relevant to MT and KM case?

 

[MsBetsy]

I wonder:

Did KS even try to contact him? Was he not Fauxtis's appointed minder that morning - whether assigned or merely assumed?

Did they not know they had a fragile ego for a case, at the very least?

Did Fauxtis ever mention to his lawyers that he might do such a thing (commit suicide) if things got bad? People often do mention it ahead of time.

According to Norm he didn't see any signs.

But I do wonder, too. Or if he told anyone else, for that matter.

Imo

 

[Woodswarrior]

No he had Michelle help him. She looks like a pansy that would do anything he asked her to do. I do not think for a New York minute she knew what she was throwing out. She talks one way one time and another way another time. Looks like he coached her and she is totally confused. The other guy I don't think was in on her killing either. It was all on Fotis who was very angry with JD. The other two could care less.

I feel the same way that mt May of had no idea what was going on She was just riding around with fd throwing stuff in other peoples trash bins because that what fd dose because he is cheap! Fd coached her to the alibi by saying just tell the cops I was home, I did nothing and lying to the cops will make my life easier. She may of not figured out he did it till the next week. I could see it happening with fd type of guy.mt the starry eyed patsy in love with the rich guy.

 

[BellaVita]

With Fd no longer of this earth what is the path forward in the legal process to bring "Justice For Jennifer"?

Does the state have to prove Fd as the killer in order to complete the handling of MT and KM? Does Fds taking his own life allow the state to disclose all evidence not relevant to MT and KM case?

The cases are separate. FD role will certainly be introduced. The convictions of MT and KM are not dependent on FD being alive. He has not and never would have spoken, IMO. The cases of MT and KM have not changed, IMO.

 

[Myvice]

I think it's more than coincidental that NP isn't mentioned by name in the letter. What a hit that must be to NP's ego. I also wonder if that has any bearing on NP taking AC's case. Maybe NP is worried that FD talked to her about having hard feelings about NP.

 

[Seattle1]

Could there be any consequences for him releasing the suicide letter?
Since it's a violation of the gag order is there anything the judge can do?

ETA Or is it not considered evidence?
Maybe not, otherwise why would LE turn it over to him.

Imo

But did NP release it? MSM sure had the letter quickly.

I didn't expect to see it so soon as I thought it would be evidence for the Court to release.

ETA: Seems NP was responsible for releasing the note.

Jennifer Dulos Case: Fotis Dulos' Suicide Note Released

 

[Seattle1]

@Jmoose said: ↑
I asked this a few days ago, and someone said “it’s not the lawyer’s responsibility to arrange bail”-but in this kind of case, I believe it is. The lawyer has those kinds of contacts for the large bail amounts, don’t they? This is one of the things I believe contributed to Fd’s suicide.

But after the suicide attempt NP appears with high-profile bondsman Judelman and says he should've gotten him right from the beginning.

Since the defendant is usually in jail when a client needs a bail bond, the defense lawyer might bring the parties together but isn't part of the bail bond application, negotiation, and packaging of collateral for the exact reason we see happened with FD -- his application was fraudulent. Not even NP would want that exposure. MOO

ETA: Not to say that FD could not engage an independent attorney to assist with his bail negotiation but it's not going to be his defense attorney of record.

 

[Woodswarrior]

Both MT and KM were clearly in on the conspiracy to commit the murder, at the very least. There are facts that support that and likely much, much more.

MT obviously helped in cleanup, and when it's that much blood, it's almost impossible NOT to know what one is doing. She's not a total idiot.

She talks one way one time and another way another time.
In other words: Lying.

The other guy I don't think was in on her killing either.
He's already been charged in the conspiracy of her murder so he was most certainly "in on it," whether he was in that garage or not.

Perhaps Fd had something big on both of them, or was helping to trade crimes (at least in the case of KM). We might find out when they have their trials.

you know that black contractors trash bags sitting in a garage of a spec house that is just going on the market is not a unusually site.the bloody cloths were on the inside of the bags and the bags were most likely tied shut. Just saying moo

 

[Seattle1]

Here is FOx61 clip on the Avon, CT author and the 2 pages written about Fd. NOTE: This is NOT the suicide note:

Fiedler was just another primary supply victim of narc FD! He thought FD just stepped out of GQ and was sold by the fraud with a very likable mask.

Reminds me of the person that interviewed FD numerous times to complete his psych evaluation. He was gushing about him -- it was embarrassing.

MOO

 

[Mercedes]

Did anyone notice the date on the top of the page of Fotis letter to “All?”

 

[BellaVita]

Fiedler was just another primary supply victim of narc FD! He thought FD just stepped out of GQ and was sold by the fraud with a very likable mask.
Reminds me of the person that interviewed FD numerous times to complete his psych evaluation. He was gushing about him -- it was embarrassing.

MOO

YUP. My Malignant N had a court ordered evaluation due to skipping out on a DUI charge. The evaluator stated that he was a normal person in every respect. Ex kept that letter and cherished it. I [REDACTED] ripped that letter up after he was escorted out of my house by the police. Ex was able to convince all mutual friends that I cheated and stole from him. Ex was "gregarious". LOL.
ETA: He drove 2 old broken down trucks and managed to convince people that he owned a multi-million dollar commercial property while at the same time living in a $900/month rental property.

 

[afitzy]

But after the suicide attempt NP appears with high-profile bondsman Judelman and says he should've gotten him right from the beginning.

Its interesting though if you watch the later interview with the NY bondsman it appears that he didn't have any info and was quite clear that he would have to go through the entire process. I believe the interview is on Marissa Alters twitter feed but it said to me that Atty. P. was blowing smoke.

If Fd and AC couldn't' find more cash and collateral Fd was going to jail once Palmetto pulled the plug on their bond. IMO I think Fd knew the gig was up and he was out of options completely.

I wonder if the details from the suicide investigation will be made public and if we will ever know why it seems Atty KS didn't appear to do anything in terms of alerting from Stamford Courthouse? We knew Atty. P. was with a client but did he play some role in the choice to not alert sooner as I find it hard to believe that his partner couldn't reach him in an emergency and Fd not showing up was IMO an emergency given the topic at hand in Court that day.

MOO