Deceased/Not Found CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #43

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Nanobody said:
I don't understand much about the process to be honest, other than that graves are rented and only the very very rich can have permanent graves if at all. I believe the last resting place for many is called an 'ossuary.'

ETA but for those who cannot afford the ossuary fees... Well it's just too sad to think about. :(

Why Greeks are exhuming their parents
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glassheater said:
this is true. In the village my family is from, there’s a little chapel where the exhumed bones are kept in boxes. They leave people buried for several years before this occurs. Usually the ones that have the shortest stay in the ground are the ones who died at an old age. I asked once about when people pass at a young age, especially when children. They said they leave the youth graves alone. If they are exhumed, it would be after many decades when the child’s loved ones have also passed.

the way my village does it is the loved ones of the departed have to ask the locals if someone is willing to exhume a relative to make space. My Mom died first. When my Father passed 2 years later, my family begged the family next to my Mom if they can have the space so my parents can be buried together but the person refused.

If this is how FD place works then I suspect they may have difficulty finding a spot ( unless they exhume their own relative). Greeks can be very wary and suspicious of karma and FD well, was controversial at best.

ETA: judging by the comments I’ve seen greeks make on articles, most think he’s guilty.
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Although I’m not Greek, I want to recognize this tradition, as far as I understand it, isn’t just something new driven by recent economic or space concerns, but that exhumation has been practiced as part of Orthodox culture for a long time with attendant ritual and meaning.
I had to take a class on “Death and the Afterlife in Greece” (taught by a Greek scholar) as part of my Gen Ed requirement in college and we learned a lot about this tradition.

Again, this is not my culture and I have no idea how it will bear on the FD case, but with the way it seems the media is presenting it combined with our collective outrage and disgust for FD, I wanted to offer that perspective.
 
Boxer said:
MOO kM as far a conspiracy, MOO KM has so much animosity towards his own wife that I think he gladly chatted with FD about murder, probably while loaded. Then after all that, the instant he made the slightest gesture that would assist with the crime, even filling the Tacoma gas tank, he became a co-conspirator.
I also think the men were sexist and kept the big ideas to themselves, just using MT where needed, alibi, then unexpected cleaning.

Once she knew what game was afoot she should have run to police or at least a lawyer to help her go to police. Renunciation is best defense for conspiracy.
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MT and FD were pretty much tied at the hip. She was NOT a girly-girl who baked in the kitchen, nor cerebral sort who wrote poems while the men talked.

Personality wise, MT was the opposite of Jennifer. She was a partier, 100% tough, and nothing Fd that did was something she didn't do just as well.

She was in on it 100%. She didn't do 'house cleaning' - even in her excuse to LE, she couldn't pass that off, and she admitted it!

If anything, she did the chopping. That she was good at. Her hobbies were spearfishing and extreme sports. Her coveted items were knives and dead animal skins. Take a look at her SM (which I can't link to here) to get a feel for who she is. She's no softie.

She was just as guilty as the guys here, and likely did a lot of the planning. She was quite possibly in the car just behind the house in the Suburban she drove (that had been in an accident just a week before).

For all we know, she may well have been the original planner in all of this. She certainly had the motive.

IMEO.

ETA: After this, let's expect her to suddenly post Instas of her baking brownies, lol!
 
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Were the zip ties to restrain JD in her own car, gas her, and stage a suicide? Then they would have to wait around and come back in to undo the ties so probably not. Just still wondering what evil plan went somewhat awry.
 
afitzy said:
Haha! Are you saying that our taint team was 'tainted'?????

What case deserves a tainted taint team more than this sad and tragic one....UNBELIEVABLE!

IMO if a member of Pattisville were present on that taint team that would NOT surprise me in the least! Wonder if CSP checked their pockets and did a cavity search as they left 4Jx too?

MOO
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sleuth66 said:
Although I’m not Greek, I want to recognize this tradition, as far as I understand it, isn’t just something new driven by recent economic or space concerns, but that exhumation has been practiced as part of Orthodox culture for a long time with attendant ritual and meaning.
I had to take a class on “Death and the Afterlife in Greece” (taught by a Greek scholar) as part of my Gen Ed requirement in college and we learned a lot about this tradition.

Again, this is not my culture and I have no idea how it will bear on the FD case, but with the way it seems the media is presenting it combined with our collective outrage and disgust for FD, I wanted to offer that perspective.
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this is the first I’ve heard of this, thank you for bringing it to my attention. I’ll have to look this up. I do know when they exhume, a priest is there to offer Incense and prayers. I haven’t heard exhumation being done for any other reason other than space concerns.
 
Woodswarrior said:
you know that black contractors trash bags sitting in a garage of a spec house that is just going on the market is not a unusually site.the bloody cloths were on the inside of the bags and the bags were most likely tied shut. Just saying moo
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Why was FD’s DNA on items sealed inside the bags? I assume your comments go towards saying that FD might have had nothing to do with this? He did
 
Alathea said:
MT and FD were pretty much tied at the hip. She was NOT a girly-girl who baked in the kitchen or wrote poems while the men talked.

Personality wise, MT was the opposite of Jennifer. She was a partier, 100% tough, and nothing Fd did was something she didn't do just as well.

She was in on it 100%. She didn't do 'house cleaning' - even in her excuse to LE, she couldn't pass that one off! If anything, she did the chopping. That she was good at. Her hobbies were spearfishing and extreme sports. Her coveted items were knives and dead animal skins. Take a look at her SM (which I can't link to here) to get a feel for who she is. She's no softie.

She was just as guilty as the guys here, and likely did a lot of the planning. For all we know, she may well have been the first planner here. She had the most motive.

IMEO.
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I agree, and I wonder if she might commit suicide too.
 
[Alathea said: ↑ ] Both MT and KM were clearly in on the conspiracy to commit the murder, at the very least. There are facts that support that and likely much, much more. MT obviously helped in cleanup, and when it's that much blood, it's almost impossible NOT to know what one is doing. She's not a total idiot.

<<She talks one way one time and another way another time.>>
In other words: Lying. ;)

<<The other guy I don't think was in on her killing either.>>
He's already been charged in the conspiracy of her murder so he was most certainly "in on it," whether he was in that garage or not.

Perhaps Fd had something big on both of them, or was helping to trade crimes (at least in the case of KM). We might find out when they have their trials.
Woodswarrior said:
you know that black contractors trash bags sitting in a garage of a spec house that is just going on the market is not a unusually site.the bloody cloths were on the inside of the bags and the bags were most likely tied shut. Just saying moo
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Just saying - that's not at all what happened.

MT helped put bloody items from Jennifer and the cleanup of her murder - and possibly Jennifer herself - into bags. She admitted helping to fill those bags - in the daylight. Her DNA was INSIDE and ON those bags.

And, later that night, she (admittedly) went on a date/ride to Albany Avenue with Fd to dump those bags, chatting merrily on her phone as she did so.
 
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Alathea said:
Maybe because your last line (before MOO) was, sadly, not their reality?

Maybe they don't want to spend the money to bring him back to Greece?

Maybe they think they can squat and squander more of the 'in-law's' money?
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MOO I would like to see them evicted. How soon can that happen? 60 days?
His things should be put at cubsides on Albany.
 
Jmoose said:
I really think that KS did NOT like Fd...I have been thinking that KS sort of dropped the ball with Fd. Of course, he was super high maintenance, and there wasn’t a lot of time that day, but I think Fd expected a lot of hand-holding.
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Totally agree. NP had to have known that KS didn't like Fd. I'm sure KS spoke to him, but if not, it was all the more obvious to him, as it was clear to the public.

Fd didn't just expect a lot of hand-holding, he truly needed it. NP had to have known that, too.

And knowing that, Norm Pattis himself - no one else - was all the more responsible for seeing to it that someone - he himself, in fact - watched over Fd. He should have canceled his meeting in DC (I forget which criminal that was for - something abominable) just for that one day.
 
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MsJosie said:
He committed suicide on Thursday January 30, 2020...

wrote the note on January 28, 2020

a 2 day difference
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So FD had plenty of time to mull this over and consider writing a personal note to each of his children, apologizing for all the pain he caused them instead of fretting about his own mistreatment.

I'm even less sympathetic of his suicidal thoughts now.

Of course, the date could also be a lie. Why not?
 
Alathea said:
I agree. NP had to have known that KS didn't like Fd. I'm sure KS spoke to him, but if not, it was all the more obvious to him, as it was clear to the public.

Fd didn't just expect a lot of hand-holding, he truly needed it. NP had to have known that, too.

And knowing that, Norm Pattis himself - no one else - was all the more responsible for seeing to it that someone - he himself, in fact - watched over Fd. He should have canceled his meeting in DC (I forget which criminal that was for - something abominable) just for that one day.
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NP was in DC for his other client, conspiracy theorist Alex Jones. I believe he’s being sued by parents of the sandy hook victims.
 
acutename said:
neither KM nor MT "got" anything of value - monetary, emotional, etc. out of these activities, IMO, but lots of crimes turn out that way- just a big mess, damage, death, destruction, IMO.
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That may be the closest we get to justice here.

KM didn't get the promised help killing and/or "disappearing" his own wife so he didn't get to hold onto all the marital assets.
He lost custody of his children and his law license.

MT didn't get to take over Jennifer's life with all the luxury the children's trust funds bought.
She, hopefully, will lose custody of her daughter and will have to keep paying through the nose for lawyers.

Both certainly lost their reputations.

Let's hope lots of jail time will be the cherry on top and one of them spills the beans about the location of Jennifer's remains.
 
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