Deceased/Not Found CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 ARRESTS #44

doodles1211 · May 26, 2019

New Canaan Police are looking for a missing woman Saturday, May 25.

Jennifer Dulos, 50, was reported missing around 7:30 p.m. Friday, May 24. A sliver alert has been issued.

New Canaan Police with the assistance of the Connecticut State Police initiated a search and an investigation both of which are ongoing as of 8:45 am. Saturday..

Anyone with information related to Dulos’s whereabouts should contact Sgt. Joseph Farenga at 203-505-1332.

Sillybilly · Feb 3, 2020

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Sillybilly · Feb 3, 2020

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acutename · Feb 3, 2020

AbbyG said:
This may have already been noted, but how ironic that FD was going so crazy in the confines of the sprawling (mc)mansion he had fought so hard to steal for himself. Fifteen-Thousand sq ft but the walls were closing in on him. It seems that FD could never stay in one place, for fear that he might have to spend time with his own worst enemy, himself. Always on the run. Always socializing. He could not spend "EVEN ONE MORE HOUR" in a jail cell because he would have to find some inner reserve and inner strength that he utterly, utterly lacked. MOO.

there is no skiing in prison (that I know of). I suspect more bad financial tangles, IMO, though I am not sure how they could be more extensive or worse. MOO.

acutename · Feb 3, 2020

MsJosie said:
How can NP represent Anna Curry and the Greek family about items relating to FD? Is that not a conflict of interests?

I smell rats...follow the money.

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Niner · Feb 3, 2020

Can someone post the 2 motions NP filed? I want to put them into my notes!

TIA!

Seattle1 · Feb 3, 2020

Niner said:
Can someone post the 2 motions NP filed? I want to put them into my notes!

TIA!

I'm aware of NP's response to the receivership motion by GF (granted) but not sure which other motion you're referring to. Response attached.

Seattle1 · Feb 3, 2020

Dave Altimari‏ @davealtimari
The ending to this story is telling. There were 389 pleadings in case when he wrote the letter. There are 544 now. The last one filed Friday notified the court he was dead.
‘I feel like a passenger in a runaway train that is headed to nowhere’: A frustrated, cash-strapped Fotis Dulos fought against judge overseeing his two-year contentious divorce

4:32 AM - 2 Feb 2020

Dave Altimari‏ @davealtimari
Four months before Jennifer disappeared Fotis Dulos wrote a secret letter opposing the reappointment of the judge in their divorce case. Heres his own words on his growing frustrations.
‘I feel like a passenger in a runaway train that is headed to nowhere’: A frustrated, cash-strapped Fotis Dulos fought against judge overseeing his two-year contentious divorce

4:22 AM - 2 Feb 2020

Seattle1 · Feb 3, 2020

Dave Altimari‏ @davealtimari
Looks like the Dulos case will be headed to yet another court for a fight. Dueling probate cases in http://Farmington.By my count this will be the 10th court that has had some sort of case involving Dulos.
Dueling probate cases to be filed in Fotis Dulos death -- including one by Jennifer Farber Dulos’ mother

4:41 AM - 1 Feb 2020

enelram · Feb 3, 2020

Niner said:
Can someone post the 2 motions NP filed? I want to put them into my notes!

TIA!

motion to Compel Discovery can be found on
reporter Marissa Alter's FB.

edit- all the recent motions from NP's office are there also.

Alice253 · Feb 3, 2020

Maybe this one, but I don't recall seeing the actual motion

"Mr Pattis filed a motion seeking to prevent that, asking the court to substitute Dulos' estate as the defendant in the criminal case."
The defendant is dead but his attorney still wants a trial to go ahead

Jmoose · Feb 3, 2020

I am hoping that, to counter the memorial to Fd, that more locals come by and add to Jennifer’s memorial, making Fd’s look puny and miserable (just like him!)

Leizl · Feb 3, 2020

I was googling something related to this case that brought me here, and I saw some legal professionals were on the board so I thought they might clear it up.

I understand that it is being said that the cases against Kent Mawinny and Michelle Troconis could go forward. This doesn't make sense to me though, because as the state never had and will never have the opportunity to establish that Jennifer Dulos was murdered by her husband, how can these two people be considered to have conspired to commit murder with someone who hasn't even been convicted of murder?

I understand that there is a lot of evidence that is damning against Fotis Dulos, but as the only conviction that has happened is the unofficial court of opinion, how can you convict 2 other people who are being charged with a crime that is dependant on the original crime being convicted first? Would the courts not have to allow the posthumous trial as Norm Pattis is moving for, so that Fotis Dulos can be convicted of the murder, so that they can then move forward on the conspiracy charges against the other 2?

Jmoose · Feb 3, 2020

Leizl said:
I was googling something related to this case that brought me here, and I saw some legal professionals were on the board so I thought they might clear it up.

I understand that it is being said that the cases against Kent Mawinny and Michelle Troconis could go forward. This doesn't make sense to me though, because as the state never had and will never have the opportunity to establish that Jennifer Dulos was murdered by her husband, how can these two people be considered to have conspired to commit murder with someone who hasn't even been convicted of murder?

I understand that there is a lot of evidence that is damning against Fotis Dulos, but as the only conviction that has happened is the unofficial court of opinion, how can you convict 2 other people who are being charged with a crime that is dependant on the original crime being convicted first? Would the courts not have to allow the posthumous trial as Norm Pattis is moving for, so that Fotis Dulos can be convicted of the murder, so that they can then move forward on the conspiracy charges against the other 2?

First off, I am not a lawyer, but I don’t think Dulos has to be convicted first. Evidence of a conspiracy is evidence of a conspiracy, and if the state has it, they can proceed. Conviction might be a different matter. I do think it’s likely that the state has good, solid evidence of a conspiracy; we should be able to extrapolate by watching what they do in the next few weeks or so. If they modify the charges, you can probably assume that their evidence is minimal, or that they don’t think they can get a conviction on the conspiracy charge. I don’t think Pattis is going to get any traction with his “let’s proceed with the case but substitute his ‘estate’ for himself, so he can be acquitted”. At all.

BellaVita · Feb 3, 2020

Leizl said:
I was googling something related to this case that brought me here, and I saw some legal professionals were on the board so I thought they might clear it up.

I understand that it is being said that the cases against Kent Mawinny and Michelle Troconis could go forward. This doesn't make sense to me though, because as the state never had and will never have the opportunity to establish that Jennifer Dulos was murdered by her husband, how can these two people be considered to have conspired to commit murder with someone who hasn't even been convicted of murder?

I understand that there is a lot of evidence that is damning against Fotis Dulos, but as the only conviction that has happened is the unofficial court of opinion, how can you convict 2 other people who are being charged with a crime that is dependant on the original crime being convicted first? Would the courts not have to allow the posthumous trial as Norm Pattis is moving for, so that Fotis Dulos can be convicted of the murder, so that they can then move forward on the conspiracy charges against the other 2?

I'm not a legal professional but IMO, the cases against KM and MT can certainly go forward. KM is an atty so he certainly understands that. Attys have spoken out in media interviews and say there is no roadblock to the defendants being tried and convicted.

There is no legal rule that says FD had to be convicted before the conspiracy charges can be tried. FD has never spoken to LE and likely would never have testified in court. Again, no roadblock to convicting MT and KM. Their cases will fall and rise regardless of FD being dead or alive. The cases are separate.

The state will present all evidence available. Do you think that in a drug conspiracy case that the conspirator cannot be convicted just because the primary person charged has been killed in shooting? It doesn't work like that. The state can still establish that JD was murdered by her husband.

There seems to be alot of wishful thinking on behalf of MT/KM that the death of Fotis Dulos is a Get Out Of Jail Free Card. It's not. MOO.

sds71 · Feb 3, 2020

Niner said:
Can someone post the 2 motions NP filed? I want to put them into my notes!

TIA!

Motion to Preserve Evidence
Marissa Alter on Twitter
Motion to Compel Discovery
Caren Pinto on Twitter

Jmoose · Feb 3, 2020

sds71 said:
Motion to Perserve Evidence
Marissa Alter on Twitter

Oh they’re going to preserve evidence, all right. Why wouldn’t they, when they are planning to try MT and KM? That suicide note won’t be a strong piece of evidence in anybody’s acquittal, since Fd was a known liar.

nina318 · Feb 3, 2020

Jmoose said:
I am hoping that, to counter the memorial to Fd, that more locals come by and add to Jennifer’s memorial, making Fd’s look puny and miserable (just like him!)

I agree and I’m sure this will happen. That was not a “memorial” for FD. It was a self-serving statement made by NP and FD’s family. Its purpose was to provoke anger and a negative response. IMO, those who did this are cruel, vengeful, and full of hate. MOO!

I’ve been catching up – back to reading!

BellaVita · Feb 3, 2020

sds71 said:
Motion to Perserve Evidence
Marissa Alter on Twitter
Motion to Compel Discovery
Caren Pinto on Twitter

Is NP just trying to use up his retainer fee? Why would a motion need to be made to preserve evidence obtained from a search warrant? I mean, that happens naturally. So, on information and belief, LE has obtained this note. Where did the "information" come from? Did LE let him look at the note? How did he get photos of it? What if FD only sent a copy to NP and then destroyed the note? Is NP intending to make LE look bad? Very strange motion, IMO.

Jmoose · Feb 3, 2020

BellaVita said:
Is NP just trying to use up his retainer fee? Why would a motion need to be made to preserve evidence obtained from a search warrant? I mean, that happens naturally. So, on information and belief, LE has obtained this note. Where did the "information" come from? Did LE let him look at the note? How did he get photos of it? What if FD only sent a copy to NP and then destroyed the note? Is NP intending to make LE look bad? Very strange motion, IMO.

Knowing what a PITA Fd must have been, tells me that Pattis had to have used up whatever retainer he got in aggravation alone, IMO. Personally, I think he was planning on being highly visible with this case for a lot longer than this, and doesn’t want to give up the spotlight, so watch for more and more outrageous motions to be filed. Since he doesn’t seem to carefully consider or even proofread much of what he files, I don’t think it is costing him much at all in either time or effort; for him, it’s a “can’t lose” proposition now because it keeps him visible, even though Fd is dead. I do think he likes the fight, even if he doesn’t realize that he is way overmatched by better legal minds.

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Deceased/Not Found CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 ARRESTS #44