Deceased/Not Found CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #45

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Fox 61 says police were called to the scene in response to an inquiry about what could be removed given there is a court order.

Police said "We responded for questions regarding if property could be removed from the home, determined to be a civil issue and it was resolved. No enforcement action taken."

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No wonder they needed till Friday. It takes a while to create the documents you need to hire a van. And slipping out before 7th...wow.

I had a feeling that if they said they needed until Friday, that the van was showing up today. I am still struggling with what they need a van for? If they came here with suitcases, what is leaving in the truck?
 
Fox 61 says police were called to the scene in response to an inquiry about what could be removed given there is a court order.

Police said "We responded for questions regarding if property could be removed from the home, determined to be a civil issue and it was resolved. No enforcement action taken."

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Tells me nothing. Is truck still there? How about the Grifters?
 
I had a feeling that if they said they needed until Friday, that the van was showing up today. I am still struggling with what they need a van for? If they came here with suitcases, what is leaving in the truck?
And LE showed up "to answer questions" about what they could take. Seriously, they rented the truck FIRST before asking (when LE just happened to show up because of the fact that the van was there)?

There is NOTHING in there that's legal for them to take besides what they arrived with - and they sure as heck didn't arrive in a moving van.

Thieves.
 
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No, I'm quite clear. Have been for some time now.

The reason I quoted JS was that I wasn't aware that someone's dying declaration could exonerate another individual in their dying declaration. (If I am reading it right) It sounds like JS is going to argue this in the case against MT. He probably has to bring it up but IMO it won't fly. MOO
Kind of laughable, isn’t it?
 
They've brought A MOVING VAN to GF's house, paid for by her, including the furnishings.

What did they arrive with - a suitcase?

Astonishing. Add theft to this family's long list of crimes, though it's probably the least serious so far.
Sorry if I'm reading this incorrectly why do you think GF paid for the moving van
 
Clear poncho without hood.
Clear poncho with hood.
Both with JFD DNA.

Someone went out and purchased those clear ponchos in advance to make sure that JFD DNA would go on the poncho rather than on the person beneath the poncho. Why one with a hood? So the DNA that is flying around will go on the hood of the poncho rather than on the long hair beneath the hood, MOO.

When done, the ponchos go in the garbage bag with the rest of the materials covered with that DNA. And those garbage bags are driven to and distributed in multiple individual public garbage cans in a busy nearby city.

What a day’s work. IMO, it required planning to have those ponchos - one hoodless and one with a hood - on hand when needed.

Put together the ponchos AND the removal of JFD clothing AND the temporary placement of JFD’s body in the Toyota Tacoma AND the certainty that the FORE project manager is working on the New Canaan project until late afternoon and IMO you have: Dismemberment and burial occurring in a private location FD had full control over that required travel away from New Canaan. Given the post-dismemberment disposal of garbage bags in West Hartford, rather than a location near New Canaan, IMO that dismemberment occurred at one of the FD-controlled properties in Farmington or Avon, just a “ride to Starbucks away.”

IMO, JFD’s corpse was also likely at least temporarily buried because that is the only method that explains removal of the clothing. If a substance was being used because it was expected to quicken decomposition, clothing would get in the way. Dismemberment would allow more human tissue to be exposed to the substance, thus increasing the impact of that substance expected to quicken decomposition.

Since KM has been potentially linked to a gravesite, tarp, and bags of lime at a private wooded location he had gained access to, I explored a bit about the use of lime in quickening decomposition. There are various studies which challenge the belief that different types of lime quicken composition; some report that it actually can preserve a corpse. So, IMO there is still hope that JFD can be recovered and given a dignified burial if her location is determined by either disclosure or search.

IMO, FD killed himself because he knew by the details disclosed in the AW’s and by the extensive searches in Avon and Farmington locations that LE had it figured out and he was not going to be able to sell an alternative story. He was intelligent enough to know LE had more than they had yet disclosed and regardless what his attorney was telling him about defense strategies which could be pursued once those disclosures were made, he knew better than anyone else would know that it would be very tough for a jury to buy those defenses. He was going to be revealed for all to see as the man who did what he had done and he couldn’t live with that monster behind the mask being seen.

Social media, websleuthing sites, the gossipy public, and Norm Pattis were not responsible for JD committing suicide. That was the choice JD made among those he saw ahead of him with all the knowledge only he had. He made the decision based upon everything he knew that it was jail or suicide and he chose his preference.

IMO, MT’s likely best chance at living any part of her remaining life in freedom is by disclosing where JFD’s corpse is, regardless of its current condition. IMO, that would be the only avenue to any measure of mercy, assuming it has been offered to her or can be pursued by her. Others involved may know and disclose first. Innocent others may still be searching and find JFD based only upon clues and good reasoning, so the clock is ticking.

I’m not an attorney, but IMO MT would be better served by some honest assessment of the seriousness of her present situation, rather than indulgence of her worst impulses. Look where that has gotten her so far.

As for the complaints, certainly a woman who can invent shoe covers has heard of socks that might serve to protect the ankle of one under house arrest from the device placed there to prevent escape. The sore on MT’s ankle is nothing compared to the grievous burden left upon the hearts of JFD’s remaining family and the larger community that cared for her and that desires to live in peace to rebuild in her unwelcome absence.


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Wow- I felt a little bit like I was jumping the gun assuming Rena was emptying the house before knowing who hired the van.

Then along cane Pattis with the confirmation. He admitted it with his, "Gee they can't even take [a van full] of sentimental items?" And he ranted about how they were again the victims.

No, Pattis. They cannot steal stuff. They could leave a note, "I would really like this photo" or, "I gave him this hall table when he moved in, could I have it?" "His favorite Byzantine Empire books, could I have them?" If such notes were about things reasonable- and didn't seem chosen for resale value- and an offer to pay to have the items moved to storage or to someone, I bet at least some of the wishes would be honored.

An a van holds a mind boggling amount of stuff. And the home was "staged" not cozy. I would put my money on the van being filled with the most likely movers on CL and eBay, not the cutest pictures.

How dare Pattis act like stealing from a dead man is okay. Unbelievable.
 
Greek PAcking Company. Big white boxes seen moving back into the house and Rena and Gerogios talking with LE while smoking a cig
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I'm dying to know what they chose to pack up for theft.

I looked up the company Iraklis - in Astoria. They ship overseas. They don't seem to be a moving company as much as a shipping company. The web site features vehicles in transit. Martha M likes their service to Greece.
 
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Wow- I felt a little bit like I was jumping the gun assuming Rena was emptying the house before knowing who hired the van.

Then along cane Pattis with the confirmation. He admitted it with his, "Gee they can't even take [a van full] of sentimental items?" And he ranted about how they were again the victims.

No, Pattis. They cannot steal stuff. They could leave a note, "I would really like this photo" or, "I gave him this hall table when he moved in, could I have it?" "His favorite Byzantine Empire books, could I have them?" If such notes were about things reasonable- and didn't seem chosen for resale value- and an offer to pay to have the items moved to storage or to someone, I bet at least some of the wishes would be honored.

An a van holds a mind boggling amount of stuff. And the home was "staged" not cozy. I would put my money on the van being filled with the most likely movers on CL and eBay, not the cutest pictures.

How dare Pattis act like stealing from a dead man is okay. Unbelievable.

As long as Pattis is railing about how entitled they are to whatever they were planning on taking, their eyes are averted from the declining balance of the retainer FD gave him - which, by the way, became part of the estate when FD died. So, he can keep on talking, but he is not using up the retainer of a former client; he is merely yammering while the account payable to that former client's estate remains the sum it was when that former client died.

I relish the day a court tells him to write GF a check for that balance, subject to audit by a reasonable third party. Let him collect it from the people currently standing in the driveway having a smoke. They and he deserve each other.
 
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