On Michelle.
Ruminations misses Little Bitty and will honor her by writing in the 3rd person.
Alathea said: “I think MT was...the quiet power behind it all in a way we haven't discussed yet. Sure, she'll claim in court to have been ‘under Fd's power’- but when you think about it - that makes no sense...
“Fd was a serial philanderer. He cheated before, and likely would again. If it were all truly up to Fd, he most likely would have preferred to have MT on the side, in the shadows, and keep his family and kids and house and money from the in-laws, until he tired of MT - which he would have - and in fact, did.
“So why did [Fotis] throw everything away for [Michelle]? Because she was manipulative, she WAS the power - and/or involved in something shady with him that she held over HIS head.
“It really only makes sense that SHE was the one who wanted to move into the house - why would he want that, knowing he'd lose everything? His wife, family, the money coming into his business from the Farbers, eventually - everything.
“...SHE would want to establish herself as THE woman of the household...
“She also insisted in being part of the visitation once Jennifer moved out. Fd knew it was not okay with Jennifer. It was a huge, ongoing issue in court. If MT hadn't insisted, it would not likely have happened...
“But - instead of her stepping back - she continued to interfere, even though it was soon written as being against visitation stipulations...
“Why didn't she just stop being around during visitation, and let Fd deal with his divorce on his own? Fd complained about the lack of visitation, so why didn't he stop her involvement in them? Apparently, he was not able to.
“Did she also insist on having Jennifer completely out of the picture, instead of stepping back?
“She was very jealous, they argued all the time. MT appeared to need to be with Fd at all times. To check up on him?
“Why did she get so angry that he had gone to visit the kids in NC and hadn't told her about it? (She found out from LE, I believe.)
“MT was not the type to be pushed around. She had to realize she wasn't going to be in it with Fd - or even his type - for the long haul - how else would she hang onto FD?
“I have a feeling we will learn a lot more about MT's running the show in ways we don't know and can't even imagine, yet.”
BellaVita said, “Nah, FD didn't want to keep her in the shadows. MT was a big F!@$ U to Jennifer. He didn't throw everything away for MT. He was rearing up and ready to throw before he even met her. IMO, there is no way she WAS the power. No doubt she was shady with FORE money and so was FD. They both had something on the other and neither could spill the beans without incriminating their own self.
“I agree that she wanted to move into the house and I am sure FD wanted her there. Because, you know, see me Jennifer? Are you looking? You have been easily replaced and now another woman is in the bed and her kid is here too...
“That is Malignant N for you. They are never satisfied and do not even know when they have already won...
“As far as the visitation, I agree that she wanted to be there and FD wanted her there too. Because, nobody tells FD what to do...he wasn't going to back down...FD was certainly able to stop her being present during visitation. He just didn't want to.”
Ruminations says she can not interpret the facts as indicating anything other than Michelle was aware of murder plans, execution and cleanup and participated at various levels in all stages. She is morally and legally guilty. She happens to have committed her crimes in CT, so she is in deeper doo-doo than in other states where she might have an easier time in criminal court should the facts not indicate that she delivered blows or was a very direct assist such as look out during the delivery of blows.
When Ruminations tries to build personalities and motivations around the facts, she just can’t come to Michelle being the driving force. This is why.
Most of all, as BellaVita asserts, Fotis did not seem to be a person that allowed people to tell him what to do. Instead, when he was inconvenienced by having to respect the autonomy of another, he felt like a victim.
When Fotis wanted something, he was very good making it seem he was doing it for someone else, or being “forced,” since he wouldn’t let an opportunity to be a hero or a victim go to waste. So what good luck for Fotis if Michelle wanted to be the queen of lemonade and crepe parties at 4JX! He could sent his “big F!@$ U” (thanks, BellaVita) to Jennifer and look like he is meeting Michelle’s needs. He probably trained Michelle to guffaw at Jennifer for claiming Fotis was dangerous when he was being whipped, wink wink, by Michelle.
They supposedly argued all the time? Ruminations believes it. That has nothing to do with MT being able to get her way with Fotis.
She was jealous and suspicious? Well, Fotis was a cheater and suspect. That is about the only rational point of data Ruminations has about Michelle.
As for acting out jealously, a-hole men love that stuff. She seemed very well trained in the art of being what a-hole men like.
MT wasn’t the type to be pushed around? Ruminations is not sure. She was in a very vulnerable position. One thing that happens to people when they have a history of abuse, especially sexual abuse and especially in childhood, is they lose some self protection skills that seem instinctive to others, and have to relearn them. Being queen of 4jx might seem like her goal, but it was where Fotis had all the power. She had homes. She could have insisted that he move his kitchen tools in with her.
I know there have been long lists written giving facts, with which we all agree, that demonstrate MT’s guilt, and motivations, about which we agree, too.
The fallacy in using the motives to show that MT was the driving force is that the very same motives are just as easily reasons she went along for the murdering ride and did her parts.
Something is very wrong with Michelle. She is behaving in an extremely unusual way to deaths. She acts out sexually and if she were 13 or 14, I would worry that she was being abused at home and is in danger of being trafficked. It is really odd that Jennifer absolutely would not abide her being around when it is more typical for ex wives to find that their ex behaves better when a “friend” is on the scene. (And, If Jennifer were blinded by the natural jealousy that would occur —-which seems unlikely given she prioritized her children over herself—-then others like the law guardian would have chimed in and said that kicking Michelle out did not seem necessary to them.) That woman is not right, IMO.
Her family is also not right, as many have commented. Who supports their daughter/sister on entering a dangerous and immoral relationship? Who dresses like they are going to a formal brunch when Jennifer is missing and presumed dead? When their daughter is accused of increasingly heinous crimes? When their daughter’s significant other commits suicide? Did anybody from Michelle’s family represent Michelle at any service or gathering for Fotis? Because if Michelle and Anna were in some kind of agreement, that would not be a problem.
If Anna were a surprise, Ruminations would sure as Fudge show up at a service fot Fotis to represent her adulterous sister. She would walk up to Pattis and say, “So who is the lying lover now!” wish Anna the best, grab something to eat, check her watch, apologize for a conflicting commitment and leave. All very politely of course, as is Ruminations MO.
Moo, moo moo.