DC - Former President Donald Trump indicted, 4 federal counts in 2020 election interference, 1 Aug 2023, Trial 4 Mar 2024

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RANCH said:
The Supreme Court’s rejection of a controversial election theory may also have another huge political consequence for future presidential contests: It obliterated the dubious fake elector scheme that Donald Trump deployed in his failed attempt to seize a second term.

Mainstream election lawyers on both sides of the aisle denounced the theory in the months after the 2020 election. But because no court had ever directly ruled on the theory, its proponents were able to describe it as a plausible, if untested, interpretation of constitutional law. Eastman himself, currently facing disbarment in California for his actions to subvert the election, has claimed that he was engaged in “good-faith” advocacy on an unsettled legal question.

www.politico.com

How the Supreme Court’s decision on election law could shut the door on future fake electors

“It keeps the toothpaste in the tube,” one election expert said.
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If anyone is wondering what the "controversial election theory" refers to, according to the article at the link quoted:

"That scheme relied on friendly state legislatures appointing “alternate” slates of pro-Trump presidential electors — even if state laws certified victory for Joe Biden. Backed by fringe theories crafted by attorneys like John Eastman, Trump contended that state legislatures could unilaterally reverse the outcome and override their own laws and constitutions to do so."

FYI: John Eastman is said to be Co-Conspirator 2 in the indictment. FWIW, Eastman clerked for justice Clarence Thomas in 1996 (info from the link). Jeffrey Clark, said to be Co-Conspirator 4, was also actively pushing the scheme.

Also from the link, bbm: "No state legislatures embraced Eastman’s calls, and the effort collapsed when then-Vice President Mike Pence refused a simultaneous pressure campaign to single-handedly postpone the counting of electoral votes."

Whew.


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smeck said:
Many people knew what tRump was like from his business dealings over the last 20 years or so. It was no surprise to New Yorkers and others that he was corrupt. How anyone can ignore his evil agenda is beyond my comprehension.
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Exactly. I grew up in NJ and remember reading articles on Trump attempting to throw a little old lady out of her home so he could expand his casino. Articles about how he would call the press and try to disguise his voice and say he was a "staffer" with glowing reviews on whatever tRump was doing at the time. How he strong armed his way onto a scene in the movie "Home Alone" to feed his ego. Never ending stories about how he ripped off contractors & said "So sue me! I can afford to drag it out in court, you can't!" How may small businesses went under when they thought they might be able to use this job to get more work only to end up owing hundreds of thousands for supplies they fronted money for, only to never be compensated for?
None of that is really relevant to anything other than his ego and how far it will go. That he gave millions permission to be vocal and obnoxious about their hatred of others will forever scar this society.
 
Ruby_PA said:
Exactly. I grew up in NJ and remember reading articles on Trump attempting to throw a little old lady out of her home so he could expand his casino. Articles about how he would call the press and try to disguise his voice and say he was a "staffer" with glowing reviews on whatever tRump was doing at the time. How he strong armed his way onto a scene in the movie "Home Alone" to feed his ego. Never ending stories about how he ripped off contractors & said "So sue me! I can afford to drag it out in court, you can't!" How may small businesses went under when they thought they might be able to use this job to get more work only to end up owing hundreds of thousands for supplies they fronted money for, only to never be compensated for?
None of that is really relevant to anything other than his ego and how far it will go. That he gave millions permission to be vocal and obnoxious about their hatred of others will forever scar this society.
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The fact that Trump made a habit of calling people under fake names (John Barron, David Denison, et al) is both hysterical and disturbing. How that in itself was not an immediately disqualifying factor in previous elections is beyond me.
 
RANCH said:
I think that Trump's future will be determined at the ballot box before a trial on this case happens. JMO.
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If there is no trial for tampering with the electoral process, how will you trust the ballot box going forward? There absolutely must be a trial.

When a country loses faith in its legal process and in its ballot box, then it has lost the two pillars of its democracy. There is nothing else to protect the people from a government leader who sets himself above the law and above the will of the people.
 
musicaljoke said:
If there is no trial for tampering with the electoral process, how will you trust the ballot box going forward? There absolutely must be a trial.

When a country loses faith in its legal process and in its ballot box, then it has lost the two pillars of its democracy. There is nothing else to protect the people from a government leader who sets himself above the law and above the will of the people.
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In my opinion there will be a trial.
 
CrimeDawg123 said:
The fact that Trump made a habit of calling people under fake names (John Barron, David Denison, et al) is both hysterical and disturbing. How that in itself was not an immediately disqualifying factor in previous elections is beyond me.
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Hysterical and disturbing describes pretty much everything about him.
 
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Three officers who served on Jan. 6 — MPD Officer Daniel Hodges, former Capitol Police Officer Aquilino Gonnell and Capitol Police Officer Harry Dunn — are watching Trump's arraignment from an overflow room at the courthouse. They were escorted in by the marshals service.
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