DC - Savvas Savopoulos, family & Veralicia Figueroa murdered; Daron Wint Arrested #10

[asac]

I seriously doubt homicide detectives would spend hours showing Wint's attorney around the crime scene if there is proof the shoe print matches Wint. Instead, I think it likely they were examining the evidence of co-conspirators to motivate Mr. Wint to engage in a plea deal in exchange for information.

Three weeks since the bodies were found, Assistant U.S. Attorney Emily Miller, the prosecutor in the case, was back at the house looking for evidence Thursday. Members of the Public Defender service, who represent Wint, were also at the scene with their own team of crime scene investigators. They spent about two-and-a-half hours in and around the house taking pictures. They were escorted around by homicide detectives.
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/l...Search-Personal-Assistants-Car-306224331.html

Each side is able to visit the crime scene and do their own research/take photos/take notes/come up with ideas and questions.
The homicide detectives would be present to act more as 'minders', and perhaps to answer questions. But not to act as 'tour guides' or to direct their visit.

 

[rkf]

Maybe evidence of a gas can?

Or on that white bucket? That plastic would probably pick up fibers like crazy.

 

[FelicityLemon]

No. That's why I'm asking. I thought that must be the job you were referring to, since he had held it since 2013. I know racing go-karts and other cars is expensive. He said so in at least one of his videos - that it was difficult if you don't have a family that can help you. That is why he was so appreciative that Autobahn supported his racing dreams and efforts. He also said "Mom, send money!" so maybe his parents were helping him financially.

I see. No, my response was general to a comment that it was suspicious for someone in an allegedly low-paying position for only a few weeks to have a BMW and assorted electronics.

Maybe someone else knows with certainty that he bought those things only after being hired by SS and that's why the poster is suspicious.

 

[jjenny]

LE released the information about finding blood on DW's shoe days after his arrest. Don't you think they would have also said his shoe/boot also matches the print on the door? I do.

JMO

LE hasn't released any information. The blood on shoes story came from some anonymous sources and who even knows if its true.

 

[SpanishInquisition]

I believe it was the Pulitzer Nominated (the nominating process is a meaningful process, I think) blogger who stated that Mr. Wallace left his job at the go-kart track because he wanted more hours, according to his source.

I'm not aware of any source reporting that as the only reports I've seen are that it was involuntary ('let go' or 'fired'). Nate Thayer - the one you are referring to - says he was fired, "In March, Wallace was fired from his job as the “Competition Director” at the Jessup, Maryland Autobahn Speedway in suburban Washington."
http://www.nate-thayer.com/race-car...ect-in-washington-savopoulos-murder-whodunit/
Though I don't think it's publicly known how many hours in a week JW usually put in for SS or what he was paid per hour.

 

[rkf]

I see. No, my response was general to a comment that it was suspicious for someone in an allegedly low-paying position for only a few weeks to have a BMW and assorted electronics.

Maybe someone else knows with certainty that he bought those things only after being hired by SS and that's why the poster is suspicious.

Ah. It didn't even occur to me that he bought any of that stuff after getting the job with SS. He had the BMW in September 2014, because he got pulled over for not having vehicle registration plates attached. I kind of lumped the car and the electronics together - don't know why. Given all the video/photos/websites/SM accounts, I assumed he has had computers/GoPro/SD Cards/etc. for a while now.

 

[AmazonianAbroad]

Autobahn said he was "let go". You might want to research that Pulitzer nomination. It was by a "sister publication" of the WSJ, owned by the same company. That blogger didn't provide any of his sources and when questioned by a reader, he went on the offensive (rather than provide his source(s)).

Doesn't it take a few folks on a panel in concurrence to net a nomination? (...I'm about to learn more obscure trivia, with which I will some day awe and annoy my loved ones.)

I found the bit I was recalling. It's just repeating gossip, though, from Jordan Wallace’s racing mentor Mike “Weedy” Weddell.

 

[FelicityLemon]

"The assistant's car was found a block from the Savopoulouses' house after the slayings, the documents show."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/police-links-assistant-dc-execs-slaying-31541693?ts=true

So what car was he driving when he was at the hardware stare?

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His own car. The same car that was parked outside of the police perimeter at the SS house while the firefighters were busy. He drove his own car back to the house as soon as he learned of the fire.

It seems as though the majority of the news reports are shamelessly and deliberately slanted things towards drama.

 

[Joe Friday]

If they found blood inside the trunk and on the door panel wouldn't they have arrested him?

Testing can take time.

 

[FelicityLemon]

As does the two backpacks.

I thought he was going backpacking with a buddy.

 

[SpanishInquisition]

Maybe. But it feels to me like some rather innocent things are being pointed to as if they indicate guilt. JMO

Virtually anything can be guilty or innocent depending on the circumstances, like getting a money order doesn't itself mean you're a criminal or that you're doing anything wrong, but I would not say those getting money orders with Wint were doing innocent things.

 

[FelicityLemon]

Actually, he would because it is unethical for an attorney to initiate contact with a potential client. If this guy doesn't end up with a bar complaint filed by the P.D.'s office, I'll be surprised.

JMO

He might not care as long as the newspapers spell his name right. :wink:

 

[south fishy]

He had a steady job for several years but that doesn't mean it was a well-paying job.

JMO

I can't think of 1 person in that age group that I know of even tangentially that doesn't have the electronics found in JW's car, or other electronics equivalent in $$ value. And this is regardless of an extremely wide range of economic standing. Bought new from $$ earned, bought used off Craigslist, bought 'used' from questionable people, charged on credit cards, you name it. Not unusual in the slightest.

 

[jjenny]

Testing can take time.

They got DW's DNA results back very quickly.

 

[jjenny]

Testing can take time.

They got DW's DNA results back very quickly.

 

[kammiemc]

My husband has his passport in his briefcase all of the time. He needs it for work occasionally.

My son keeps his in his car occasionally as well. It does not necessarily mean someone is boarding an airplane. JMO

Definitely couldn't point to the idea even remotely that that person was considering leaving the country. I agree.

 

[FelicityLemon]

Ah. It didn't even occur to me that he bought any of that stuff after getting the job with SS. He had the BMW in September 2014, because he got pulled over for not having vehicle registration plates attached. I kind of lumped the car and the electronics together - don't know why. Given all the video/photos/websites/SM accounts, I assumed he has had computers/GoPro/SD Cards/etc. for a while now.

Me, too. That's why I don't understand why someone thought it was suspicious


X means Y

Apples mean beans

*sigh*

 

[emmavoberry]

Then it appears the criminals went for the more modest, grass-roots affluent than the upper stratospheres in which the level of surveillance, activity, personal protection might be more of a challenge. Perhaps they knew that this CEO would be able to liquidate assets with more ease, less layers of monitoring than others in the same area with more visible signs of largesse and thus more built-in protection, service people, staff working in the household in an office, pool cleaners, guests possibly, supplies being delivered...it appears that the SS family routine was compact, predictable, and by comparison with their "larger living" neighbors, they might have had less hub bub, fewer people attending them, and all together more laxity in regard to security. We have also been told that theirs was a particularly quiet, off the more beaten path patch. Sounds perfect.
This crime then was not about getting the most money, but was one of opportunity (that inside link again), not having to deal with a fortress, so no undue challenges for breeching, and a place perhaps less "observed."
From what those in the know say, if the criminals' objective was to haul the most loot away, they could have fished in a bigger pond. But if the objective was to have the best chance at getting away with a crime of theft where there were more "knowns" and more easily controlled variables, I'd think the smaller scale life style would have been the good bet.
i think bet the criminal/s did. But it strikes me now that the roulette wheel was carefully chosen for its accessibility. What made the SS house accessible? What made the odds in favor of getting in and getting out?
JMO that "link" talked up early in the case, that inside info. This was a crime that was presented; it cropped up; the perpetrator felt confident he'd meet with little or no resistance. Someone facilitated JMO. And I think this is LE's theory. Someone offered up this crime. Not in all its unfolding--that's down to the maniac allegedly in charge of the scene and the people. Someone made it sound doable.

 

[AmazonianAbroad]

Me, too. That's why I don't understand why someone thought it was suspicious


X means Y

Apples mean beans

*sigh*

The only reason I find his toys noteworthy is that he has a passion that is beyond his means, at least without a great deal of personal financial sacrifice. It seems that he'd go without toys like a GoPro if he needed money for things like a trip to Italy. I guess it feeds into my image of him as out of touch with the reality of his circumstances, who doesn't respect what it takes to earn what he wants to have.

Again, I'm not saying I think he his involved. But, I belive it would be hard to rule him out.

 

[Just K]

IMO it is way too early to rule him out. Only when it is clear as day that he had nothing to do with facilitating any part of this crime will he be 100% in clear, IMHO.