DC - Savvas Savopoulos, family & Veralicia Figueroa murdered; Daron Wint Arrested #10

[MyBelle]

That is quite possible. But I can see it the exact opposite too. DDW is the sole suspect, and they are showing his PD's around the crime scene.

LE has NEVER said DDW is the sole suspect and the documents submitted to the court indicate LE believes the evidence shows co-conspirator(s).

JMO

 

[MyBelle]

My first thought is 'no way', but *don't anybody throw tomatoes at me* would he put that on the record if it wasn't true?

*ducking*

Actually, he would because it is unethical for an attorney to initiate contact with a potential client. If this guy doesn't end up with a bar complaint filed by the P.D.'s office, I'll be surprised.

JMO

 

[katydid23]

If he had his passport on him to take a plane trip, then why didn't he? He had the chance to take his cut of the $$$ at 10 am. Why didn't he take off then?

 

[Joe Friday]

IMO there could be dirt, sand, etc on the outside from where he was driving or there could be dirt, etc from his shoes that transferred to the panel while he entered or exited the car. I'm not sure what dirt, sand etc that they would compare it to though. JMO

What if they found blood on either the rocker panel or inside the trunk?

IMO, LE didn't take the parts from the car for no good reason.

 

[corundogs]

LE has NEVER said DDW is the sole suspect and the documents submitted to the court indicate LE believes the evidence shows co-conspirator(s).

JMO

Touche...

 

[AmazonianAbroad]

No. That's why I'm asking. I thought that must be the job you were referring to, since he had held it since 2013. I know racing go-karts and other cars is expensive. He said so in at least one of his videos - that it was difficult if you don't have a family that can help you. That is why he was so appreciative that Autobahn supported his racing dreams and efforts. He also said "Mom, send money!" so maybe his parents were helping him financially.

I believe it was the Pulitzer Nominated (the nominating process is a meaningful process, I think) blogger who stated that Mr. Wallace left his job at the go-kart track because he wanted more hours, according to his source.

This leads me to speculate that his position was (a) part time, and (b) not adequately meeting his needs financially.

We also know that it has been reported that Mr. Wallace's father was in a middle class profession, and it has been confirmed that his neighborhood was consistent with that socio economic strata. So, I don't gather there is any reason to believe there is family money supporting his racing dreams.

If racing was the 28 year-old, go-gart track, part-time worker's passion, I don't see how he was also blowing money on tech toys. Perhaps the Savospoulos family paid him well enough to buy toys and afford his racing dreams. But, I don't have the impression that the not-terribly-young man had displayed the judgement to be in a senior level, aid type position.

This is another disconnect, in my eyes.

I still have not found anything to rule out his involvement, at some level.

Is one of the Wint brothers from the neighborhood the same age as Mr. Wallace?

 

[Just K]

I think the hairs on LE's collective necks would stand up with fire #2. I'm sure they are looking at this, just because. To have two "mansions" go up in flames with the families inside within a small geographical area is something you want to look at. I have no idea if there is any connection. But I do wonder. Could just be a coincidence.

There was a third major arson fire in a large vacant house in Prince Georges County (Accokeek) MD. It was engulfed in flames when the FD was alerted. They arrived on the scene about the same time as DW and his entourage were detained and arrested. Neighbors suspected that some people had been squatting in the house before the fire. The timing and location caught my attention but the arrest of Wint took the spotlight.
http://www.wjla.com/articles/2015/0...destroyed-by-fire-in-accokeek-md--114154.html
http://www.wjla.com/video/2015/05/fire-destroys-massive-vacant-home-in-accokeek-md-.html

 

[Paulas88]

Could the rocker panel be easily removed? I remember episodes of "Pimp my ride"
the cars would have all kinds of secret compartments, to conceal money, drugs,weapons,
(Passports, SD cards).

 

[katydid23]

It's the context that makes the passport interesting. A tile in the larger mosaic, perhaps.

Maybe. But it feels to me like some rather innocent things are being pointed to as if they indicate guilt. JMO

 

[katydid23]

I believe it was the Pulitzer Nominated (since the nominating process is a big deal, I consider him a more credible media source) blogger who stated that Mr. Wallace left his job at the go-kart track because he wanted more hours, according to his source.

This leads me to speculate that his position was (a) part time, and (b) not adequately meeting his needs financially.

But it would also mean that he was not 'fired' then?

 

[Kip]

I seriously doubt homicide detectives would spend hours showing Wint's attorney around the crime scene if there is proof the shoe print matches Wint. Instead, I think it likely they were examining the evidence of co-conspirators to motivate Mr. Wint to engage in a plea deal in exchange for information.

Three weeks since the bodies were found, Assistant U.S. Attorney Emily Miller, the prosecutor in the case, was back at the house looking for evidence Thursday. Members of the Public Defender service, who represent Wint, were also at the scene with their own team of crime scene investigators. They spent about two-and-a-half hours in and around the house taking pictures. They were escorted around by homicide detectives.
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/l...Search-Personal-Assistants-Car-306224331.html

I know it's wrong, but I keep thinking that I'd like to take Wint back to the house to reenact the crime and have Wint play the part of Phillip. He might have something to say then.

 

[Joe Friday]

When JW spoke with LE right after the fire he did not know SS was dead.

According to the CD and SW three of the victims were removed from the house, but remained at the scene or at least that is the way I interpreted it. I'm sure eye witnesses watching the firefighters and EMS noticed this and knew there were fatalities even before it was made public. Word of the bodies being removed from the house would have been gossiped among the crowd and JW could have learned about the fate of the family this way.

JMO

 

[katydid23]

What if they found blood on either the rocker panel or inside the trunk?

IMO, LE didn't take the parts from the car for no good reason.

If they found blood inside the trunk and on the door panel wouldn't they have arrested him?

 

[rkf]

It's the context that makes the passport interesting. A tile in the larger mosaic, perhaps.

He needed it for that race in Italy this summer...

 

[corundogs]

Of course, but for what? Do you think JW kidnapped SS from the dojo and brought him home in the trunk? Not being snotty, I just can't imagine what the trunk fibers would connected.

I think when these SW's were acquired, LE really had no idea the depth of this crime. They knew JW had received $40K in cash and gone to the house. He didn't help things by lying about what are, IMO, inconsequential details. They couldn't know that he didn't extort that money, go to the house and kill the family and set the house on fire.

So they treated him like Prime Suspect #1.

But again, IMO, their investigation pretty quickly showed them more of the crime...how it unfolded after talking to the other employees. Found the pizza and it's strange delivery instructions. Then found DNA from their now Prime Suspect #1.

It doesn't surprise me in the least that he was investigated. That being said, it is clear to me that their investigation didn't turn up anything. We know they found the DNA, and if there was anything in JW's car that gave them any idea he was involved, he wouldn't still be considered just a witness.

That is my explanation anyway.

 

[Paulas88]

Of course, but for what? Do you think JW kidnapped SS from the dojo and brought him home in the trunk? Not being snotty, I just can't imagine what the trunk fibers would connected.

Maybe evidence of a gas can?

 

[rkf]

I believe it was the Pulitzer Nominated (since the nominating process is a big deal, I consider him a more credible media source) blogger who stated that Mr. Wallace left his job at the go-kart track because he wanted more hours, according to his source.

This leads me to speculate that his position was (a) part time, and (b) not adequately meeting his needs financially.

Autobahn said he was "let go". You might want to research that Pulitzer nomination. It was by a "sister publication" of the WSJ, owned by the same company. That blogger didn't provide any of his sources and when questioned by a reader, he went on the offensive (rather than provide his source(s)).

 

[MyBelle]

He needed it for that race in Italy this summer...

Yes, it sounds as though he was already packed and ready to go....

 

[Joe Friday]

But weren't those SW's quite a long time ago? Possibly even before, or same day, as his arrest? My point being that they could have been searching at the time of the SW, but have now matched them...along with the blood found. I feel like I have to keep saying this...but I don't know. Which is why I am asking.

LE released the information about finding blood on DW's shoe days after his arrest. Don't you think they would have also said his shoe/boot also matches the print on the door? I do.

JMO

 

[rkf]

According to the CD and SW three of the victims were removed from the house, but remained at the scene or at least that is the way I interpreted it. I'm sure eye witnesses watching the firefighters and EMS noticed this and knew there were fatalities even before it was made public. Word of the bodies being removed from the house would have been gossiped among the crowd and JW could have learned about the fate of the family this way.

JMO

Three bodies were removed from the house. VF was taken to the hospital where additional efforts to revive her failed. AS and SS were pronounced dead at the scene and their bodies were not immediately removed from the property (although they were outside. In video, you can see where white sheets were put up as screens on the scene.) PS was not removed from his bedroom until later. So, people on the scene would have known that there were at least 2 dead and one taken to the hospital.