DC - Savvas Savopoulos, family & Veralicia Figueroa murdered; Daron Wint Arrested #15

[pinkandgreenmom]

This woman was a law clerk up until May of last year. Goodness gracious. JMO. IMO. I wonder why they didn't try to find a lawyer with a bit more experience than Hanover and his associates?

There is a link on the Hanover firm homepage for press inquiries into the quadruple homicide case - and quadruple is spelled wrong :facepalm:

 

[FelicityLemon]

There is a link on the Hanover firm homepage for press inquiries into the quadruple homicide case - and quadruple is spelled wrong :facepalm:

Personally, I appreciate and expect an attention to detail in all professions. Especially so in legal issues. Sheeeeesh.

Good find!

 

[nikki80]

There is a link on the Hanover firm homepage for press inquiries into the quadruple homicide case - and quadruple is spelled wrong :facepalm:

Hahahahaha We can't make this stuff up. :laughing:

 

[jjenny]

This woman was a law clerk up until May of last year. Goodness gracious. JMO. IMO. I wonder why they didn't try to find a lawyer with a bit more experience than Hanover and his associates?

Nobody made DW's family to hire this guy. If this is who they want, so be it.
And to think they could have gone with Ficker!

 

[nikki80]

Nobody made DW's family to hire this guy. If this is who they want, so be it.
And to think they could have gone with Ficker!

Just discussing the choice Jenny.

 

[blessedlife]

This woman was a law clerk up until May of last year. Goodness gracious. JMO. IMO. I wonder why they didn't try to find a lawyer with a bit more experience than Hanover and his associates?

I'm wondering if he sought them out as opposed to the family seeking him out. It does seem an odd choice for a defense team.


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[blessedlife]

May not be able to afford it and any attorney who defends DW will be persona non grata in this town!!! Social Suicide!

I couldn't do it but people.....all people are entitled to a fair trial and that starts with competent defense lawyers. I'm sure it's a thankless profession in some ways but without them......the process can't work. JMO


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[TexMex]

Which account? I'm still waiting for the other shoes to drop. JMO

Both accounts. IMO

 

[LinasK]

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Thank-you! I'm brand new to this case, and initials drive me nuts! Just found this case because of the 20/20 show on it. Don't understand why we must use initials when the players and victims are in the news media...

 

[TexMex]

Obstructing justice is a crime. IMO IMO IMO

JW must not have obstructed justice or he would be charged with a crime.
JMO

 

[LinasK]

Well he could have said wint and family don't like pizza.

On 20/20, Wint's previous lawyer actually said that!

 

[nikki80]

JW must not have obstructed justice or he would be charged with a crime.

The case isn't over IMO

 

[facundo]

Thank-you! I'm brand new to this case, and initials drive me nuts! Just found this case because of the 20/20 show on it. Don't understand why we must use initials when the players and victims are in the news media...

To the best of my knowledge there's no rule that only initials are permitted. The rules restrict discussion of family members but I don't see a rule against key player names posted on the first page of the thread. There is an out of date reference table of initials to guide you. It seems to be a standard practice for brevity rather than a regulation. Occasionally you will see names used. You should ask the Moderators if full names are prohibited.

 

[slyname1]

The bit about any attorney who defends DW ill be persona not grata in this town is not true.

 

[Peliman]

On 20/20, Wint's previous lawyer actually said that!

Yes, it was his old old lawyer making a fool of himself. His only involvement in this case has been talking head.
Good to see you back around again LinasK.

 

[TheRidge]

As badly as I want DW to be convicted, and I VERY much want him to be convicted (and am very confident he will be), its for some reason unsettling to me that he has such an attention-seeking, incompetent attorney. Maybe because this guy is going to get a lot of undeserved attention off a terrible tragedy. PDS lawyers are not media *advertiser censored*.

I predict one of two possible outcomes: (1) DW eventually wises up and replaces Hanover, or (2) he pleads guilty because his lawyer doesn't know how to try the case.

I am behind on a page or two of reading, I jumped ahead, so forgive me if this has been said.
I just read the Washington Post piece in the Metro section on Hanover. He did not come across at all as attention seeking...seemed kind of humble. Not at all who you'd think would represent Wint.

 

[i.b.nora]

Even if the family sought Hanover out (which I actually don't believe) but, if they did, and if it was because of deportation issues, I would have no issue with him agreeing to represent their family member in that area, IF the issue of deportation was ever to arise in the future.

I have a major problem with him representing Wint for murder charges. I think he is doing his clients a disservice, I think he is making a mockery of the Justice system and I believe he operates with questionable ethics.

I was curious about the awards his office claims to have garnered in November of 2014 from The American Institute of Legal Counsel. When you go their miserable excuse for a website there is no evidence that Hanover was given any awards. The organization was 'founded' in 2014 and is divided into individual categories and operates out of a post office box in Paso Robles, California. If one joins

Member Benefits include:

Listing on American Institute’s Top 10 Directory;
Listing on each specific Division website;
10 Best logo in jpg and png format to display on website or any other advertising medium;
Award Plaque for office display;
Interactive Blog- allows attorneys to connect with one another, have questions answered, and network; and
Press Release documenting 10 Best to Google, Bing, and Yahoo News, 2 local papers, and 3 local television stations.​

To me, there is something fishy about the American Institute of Legal Counsel and the awarding of "awards". A name associated with it is an attorney who got his degree in Maryland and was admitted to the bar in 2002. An attorney using the same name and background actually practices law in Hawaii and seems to have immigration law as one of his specialties. (See Ohana Legal Immigration Law Firm). I am left wondering who really started that organization.

I knew that Hanover had operated a card, gift, jewelry and watch repair shoppe on Braddock Road in Fairfax, Virginia. It was listed under his HHC (Hanover Holding Co, Inc.) listings. I started to post about it, but it seemed a little too freaky so I withheld and deleted the post before anyone saw it. And, I think that he sold it in about 2013. Anyhow, too much time wasted today in anticipation of the USA Women's Soccer match in a few hours.

If Wint is not represented by a competent attorney, the appeals, the lawsuits and the grief will be endless. It isn't fair to the people who lost their lives and it isn't fair to their loved ones. IMO.

 

[TheRidge]

In Petit family murders, two perps didn't have any guns either.

The S family strikes me as polite and gentle...I believe they thought they would not be murdered so were cooperative (initially) until the horror story began to unfold (torture, and whatever else happened).
I can't help but think, when I hear SS on the voice mail, that his saying his 'wife was sick and at the hospital' was his disengaging from the reality of what was happening to all of them. Maybe she was already dead by morning, we don't know. What we do know is that DW was torturing the little boy to keep the father under control.
Also, for those of you who talked about the construction signs on the driveway at the S's home, they read:
Silver Spring Concrete
&
BDC
I don't know the significance, but I do know that some of you were looking at Google photos (or other photos) of the driveway and wondering what the signs read.

 

[yepitsme]

The American Institute of Legal Counsel is essentially a company that you pay to say you got awarded by them. It just reenforces my feeling that Hanover is a fraud.

As for obstruction of justice, they would have to show that justice was obstructed. Were his lies material to the investigation? I don't know. I don't know that any of us know.

 

[nikki80]

Just saw on Fox 5 that movers are at the Savopoulos house now packing up. There's also a lockbox on the front door.