She was send the message on Wednesday night but didn't listen to it until Thursday morning. It was a voice mail, so she didn't get to say anything at all in return.
DC - Savvas Savopoulos, family & Veralicia Figueroa murdered; Daron Wint Arrested #2
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She was send the message on Wednesday night but didn't listen to it until Thursday morning. It was a voice mail, so she didn't get to say anything at all in return.
In high-profile cases like this, I have every confidence in the MP. I think the information is being tightly managed. To what means and ends we (the public) have yet to see...
What did SS' asst know; when did he know it? Were stmts truthful?
Is there any poss of his less-than-innocent involvement? Not saying he was.
SS' asst stmt sentence #1 *
"On Friday, the day after the fire and the deaths were discovered, according to the police document,
the assistant called the veteran American Iron Works employee’s cellphone “and was crying.”..."
Q. Is police doc. getting this ^
- by transcribing a VM, directly from SS' cell VM memory,
OR
- from SS'asst making stmt in-person to LE directly?
If SS' asst left VM on SS' cell Fri and was crying, then presumably SS was already dead,
asst knew of death, SS had no opportunity to delete VM,
so ^above quote is accurate as to what asst said.
May or may not be truthful as to what asst did.
SS' asst stmt sentence #2 *
"...assistant “stated that he had dropped off a package” at the Savopoulos house on Thursday
before he came to the Chantilly location."
Q. When did SS say ^?
IfThurs on VM to SS' cell? If so, when - before or after SS died?
If before SS died then poss SS deleted VM and ^ may be based on what asst told pol.
If after SS died, then SS had no opportunity to delete VM.
and if pol transcribed VM, then ^ quote is accurate as to what asst said.
May or may not be truthful as to what asst did.
If Fri, or later, in pol interview w asst, then same applies he accuracy re asst stmt & asst actions.
JM2cts.
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* "Originally Posted by Angelo "On Friday, the day after the fire and the deaths were discovered, according to the police document,
the assistant called the veteran American Iron Works employee’s cellphone “and was crying.”
The police documents said that the assistant “stated that he had dropped off a package” at the Savopoulos house on Thursday
before he came to the Chantilly location." ~snipped~
[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...23d_story.html[/URL]". bbm
Is there any poss of his less-than-innocent involvement? Not saying he was.
SS' asst stmt sentence #1 *
"On Friday, the day after the fire and the deaths were discovered, according to the police document,
the assistant called the veteran American Iron Works employee’s cellphone “and was crying.”..."
Q. Is police doc. getting this ^
- by transcribing a VM, directly from SS' cell VM memory,
OR
- from SS'asst making stmt in-person to LE directly?
If SS' asst left VM on SS' cell Fri and was crying, then presumably SS was already dead,
asst knew of death, SS had no opportunity to delete VM,
so ^above quote is accurate as to what asst said.
May or may not be truthful as to what asst did.
SS' asst stmt sentence #2 *
"...assistant “stated that he had dropped off a package” at the Savopoulos house on Thursday
before he came to the Chantilly location."
Q. When did SS say ^?
IfThurs on VM to SS' cell? If so, when - before or after SS died?
If before SS died then poss SS deleted VM and ^ may be based on what asst told pol.
If after SS died, then SS had no opportunity to delete VM.
and if pol transcribed VM, then ^ quote is accurate as to what asst said.
May or may not be truthful as to what asst did.
If Fri, or later, in pol interview w asst, then same applies he accuracy re asst stmt & asst actions.
JM2cts.
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* "Originally Posted by Angelo "On Friday, the day after the fire and the deaths were discovered, according to the police document,
the assistant called the veteran American Iron Works employee’s cellphone “and was crying.”
The police documents said that the assistant “stated that he had dropped off a package” at the Savopoulos house on Thursday
before he came to the Chantilly location." ~snipped~
[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...23d_story.html[/URL]". bbm
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What if Amy said NG was due there on Thursday knowing she wasn't so she could send the 'don't come over' text hoping NG would pick up on the fact that something was up?
Good logic on the phone calls there. More to think about.
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We're still missing info about the $40K. Here are my questions
* If the perps knew the $40K was being delivered on Thursday, why would they enter the home and hold hostages on Wednesday?
* Why hold hostages and kill people if they knew the money was to be delivered. They could've just grabbed the money en route to the home or at the home.
* Why would a smart and legit businessman have $40K in cash delivered to his home in the first place? This still doesn't sit right. There are many ways this could've been handled in a more secure and safe way. I could be wrong, but something is missing from the story that SS wanted this money delivered to his HOME on a Thursday morning.
???
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* If the perps knew the $40K was being delivered on Thursday, why would they enter the home and hold hostages on Wednesday?
* Why hold hostages and kill people if they knew the money was to be delivered. They could've just grabbed the money en route to the home or at the home.
* Why would a smart and legit businessman have $40K in cash delivered to his home in the first place? This still doesn't sit right. There are many ways this could've been handled in a more secure and safe way. I could be wrong, but something is missing from the story that SS wanted this money delivered to his HOME on a Thursday morning.
???
JMO
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Yes, the $40K in cash supposedly mixed between businesses makes me wonder if something like this was going on:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/maraschino-cherry-tycoon-secret-drug-lair-york-city/story?id=29215924
What I mean is that there was some sort of illicit business of some kind or this was going to be used as a bribe for a construction deal. This case would make more sense if the $40K was a ransom, but $40K in cash being delivered to the home just as part of BAU seems strange.
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We should all be profilers! We've been saying same all the way along.
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Where did the assistant GET the money from?
She could have left a voicemail - but that has not come up. Since Savvas called the husband when he came looking for his wife - the other housekeeper- and said sorry we didnt call you to say she was sleeping over - has it been explained why NG never made that call - was Savvas's call to the husband before she picked up the voicemail ? I would love to see timeline of calls, texts, and people at the house - husband, pizza, assistants with packages, ground crew.
An account.
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I can't understand if NG was supposed to be there on Thursday or not. Some articles make it seem she was going to show up there on Thursday.
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That's exactly my point - they did torture the child and they got no more money than was originally scheduled to arrive at the house anyway, so it would mean he wasn't making the calls, etc for whatever they were really after.
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Withdrew $40K Thursday morning? That is one trusted employee.
I would expect that for a ransom, but for regular dealings, that's a high amount of trust (not to mention putting the employee in a potentially dangerous position to have to carry that amount of cash).
That drop off continues to feel weird to me....we're missing something.
So far we only have NG's claim that it was scheduled. And some anonymous sources.
It could very well have been a ransom, not scheduled.
Maybe the perps didn't know the exact time frame for the delivery, but knew that sometime around Weds./Thurs., there would be a large amount of cash at the house. Possibly they knew or heard that SS would be paying someone on Thursday or using the money for a purchase.
If father wasn't making calls as if normally people would get suspicious.
His sister talked to him in the morning on Thursday. Housekeeper's husband claims he got a phone call from him.
So, he had to answer the phone and make messages for perps to be able to keep them overnight into Thursday.
From what I understand, Thursdays were a normal day for NG, however that routine changed that week, with the opening of the new business. NG was quoted saying that SS had called & told her that, early Wednesday. I think that's purely coincidence, though. That's why NG thought it odd that AS would text her, to make sure she wasn't coming on Thursday. NG had no plans to go over there on Thursday, after talking with SS.
It seems that NG typically worked Thursdays - but according to her - she was not working that Thursday because she was instead working to open the martial arts center on Tues, Wed, Fri (doing what exactly?). I'm not sure anyone has confirmed if that is a fact or just from NG.
Also she was "doubly?" not going to work on that specific Thursday because Savvas told her Amy was sick. Was that just a call for help by Savvas? He knew her for 20 year and thought she was more perceptive?? Was the martial arts schedule true and he really thought she would say - Yeah - I already know I'm not working Thursday - why is he telling me again???
Again I can't see why his limited call for help would go out to NG. Or why the perps would allow those calls unless they were certain they were necessary. They seem very unnecessary to me.
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