DC - Savvas Savopoulos, family & Veralicia Figueroa murdered; Daron Wint Arrested #21

[HastingsChi]

Even stupider yet - after committing this heinous crime, DW returned home and sat around on the front porch for a few days as usual, per neighbors. Then he began to sense that maybe he should leave town, so he set off to visit a girlfriend in Brooklyn.... and changed his FB location to Brooklyn.

Wow, he truly is a dummy... Makes one wonder how he could pull this off all by himself...

 

[katydid23]

Wow, he truly is a dummy... Makes one wonder how he could pull this off all by himself...

Sometimes it takes a dummy to be bold and aggressive and impulsive. He was all of that, which got him caught because he left evidence behind.

 

[taylorss]

Wow, he truly is a dummy... Makes one wonder how he could pull this off all by himself...

Yeah, I’ve thought that too. It seems like it would take some forethought and cunning to hold four people under your control so thoroughly for so long. Especially given that SS was a martial artist, proud of his skills, and would’ve been defending his wife and helpless child in their own home.

 

[Seattle1]

IIRC JW’s father is longtime, well established LE. I’ve always figured those connections kept JW’s name from being dragged through the mud [bbm]as might be expected from someone else caught in a similar scenario. There’s been no reporting that I’ve seen on any of JW’s actions, possessions or whereabouts after the initial investigation. We were told where he & his car were during & right after the crime, and that he then spoke to police. From the moment he left that interview, not a further word on him.

Rumor has it he’s since relocated to CA but apparently there’s no trace of him to be found. Presumably LE concluded he wasn’t involved & was willing to help shield the unfortunate son from life-wrecking bad publicity ? But I guess we may find out more when & if Wint’s trial ever starts.

The first dozen pages of thread would beg to differ! I wouldn't be surprised if JW was in witness protection or similar.. MOO

 

[Seattle1]

Judge: Daron Wint's attorneys can argue in court someone else committed DC mansion murders
Fri Aug 3, 2018

WASHINGTON (ABC7) — A judge ruled that attorneys for DC mansion murder suspect Daron Wint are allowed to argue that someone else possibly committed the 2015 killings.

On Friday, the judge in the upcoming proceedings granted Wint's attorneys the chance to argue that the murders were potentially carried out by another person(s). This despite objections from prosecutors in the case.

The judge also said prosecutors will find out what avenue the defense is taking early in the trial.
Judge: Daron Wint's attorneys can argue in court someone else committed DC mansion murders

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Prosecutors plan to use DC Mansion Murders suspect's Facebook usage against him, court docs show

article and video at link


UPDATED: AUG 14 2018 05:21PM EDT

WASHINGTON - There is new information in the 2015 murders of three members of a wealthy D.C. family and their housekeeper.

Specifically, the document says prosecutors plan to show Wint's typical Facebook "use by hour of the day and compare that use to his use on May 13th and 14th" when Savvas and Amy Savopoulos, their 10-year-old son Philip, and housekeeper Vera Figueroa were murdered inside their Northwest D.C. home.

The document also says the investigation shows one "outgoing" message during the time Wint is accused of holding the four hostages inside their house on Woodland Drive before setting it on fire on May 14, 2015

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Judge: Daron Wint's attorneys can argue in court someone else committed DC mansion murders
Fri Aug 3, 2018

WASHINGTON (ABC7) — A judge ruled that attorneys for DC mansion murder suspect Daron Wint are allowed to argue that someone else possibly committed the 2015 killings.

On Friday, the judge in the upcoming proceedings granted Wint's attorneys the chance to argue that the murders were potentially carried out by another person(s). This despite objections from prosecutors in the case.

The judge also said prosecutors will find out what avenue the defense is taking early in the trial.
Judge: Daron Wint's attorneys can argue in court someone else committed DC mansion murders

Hey Seattle!

I cannot remember DC laws, but I assume felony murder in DC is like many other states. If you were there when the murder happened, or they're doing the primary felony, and even though you did not do it, you still can be sentenced for murder. Is that correct?

If so, the prosecutor can slam that red herring right back at the defense. Hopefully people in DC will understand. And hopefully the prosecution has the correct charges so that that can be done.

 

[Seattle1]

Prosecutors plan to use DC Mansion Murders suspect's Facebook usage against him, court docs show

Prosecutors plan to use DC Mansion Murders suspect's Facebook usage against him, court docs show

POSTED: AUG 14 2018 05:08PM EDT
VIDEO POSTED: AUG 14 2018 05:21PM EDT
UPDATED: AUG 14 2018 05:21PM EDT

WASHINGTON - There is new information in the 2015 murders of three members of a wealthy D.C. family and their housekeeper.

A new document filed in the case says prosecutors plan to use suspect Daron Wint's Facebook page against him.

 

[Seattle1]

Hey Seattle!

I cannot remember DC laws, but I assume felony murder in DC is like many other states. If you were there when the murder happened, or they're doing the primary felony, and even though you did not do it, you still can be sentenced for murder. Is that correct?

If so, the prosecutor can slam that red herring right back at the defense. Hopefully people in DC will understand. And hopefully the prosecution has the correct charges so that that can be done.

@dixiegirl1035 - yes, felony murder is still in place in the Nations Capital. (However, looks like CA is considering limiting the law..California considers limiting broad 'felony murder' law)

 

[SeesSeas]

I'm curious about Police Misconduct. I am not able to open the document images for the motions regarding Protective Order for Police Misconduct and Credibility Materials

Docket entries this week include the following motions and order:
Government's Motion for Protective Order Governing PPMS/CADRPTS Materials
Opposition to Motion for Protective Order for Police Misconduct and Credibility Materials
Temporary Protective Order Governing Discovery

Superior Court Online Case Search | District of Columbia Courts
2015 CF1 007047 United States Vs. WINT, DARON D JML
Docket Information
Date Docket Text

08/19/2018 Government's Motion for Protective Order Governing PPMS/CADRPTS Materials
Attorney: LIU, Ms JESSIE K (472845)

08/21/2018 Opposition to Motion for Protective Order for Police Misconduct and Credibility Materials
Attorney: STEIN, JEFFREY D. (1010724)

08/21/2018 Order Entered on the Docket, Signed 8/21/18, efiled and eserved. BCL

08/21/2018 Order Entered on the Docket, Temporary Protective Order Governing Discovery. Signed 8/21/18, efiled and eserved. BCL

 

[JerseyGirl]

jury selection begins Sept. 5.

Attorneys for man charged in 2015 quadruple killings prepare for September trial

 

[Wrigley1]

Do we know if they are going to allow cameras in the courtroom?

 

[Gardenista]

Potential Missteps in Mansion Murders Evidence Collection

 

[fred&edna]

Potential Missteps in Mansion Murders Evidence Collection

Ugh

 

[SeesSeas]

Potential Missteps in Mansion Murders Evidence Collection

LE incompetence galore. Here's one example cited in the article:
Potential Missteps in Mansion Murders Evidence Collection
Then last week, as investigators were pouring over their autopsy reports and preparing for trial, they realized $105 was found in the pocket of the pants taken from Savvas Savopoulous at the autopsy and hadn’t been searched or swabbed before then.

 

[Seattle1]

Potential Missteps in Mansion Murders Evidence Collection, Court Records Show
By Jodie Fleischer and Meagan Fitzgerald
Published at 4:50 PM EDT on Aug 30, 2018 | Updated at 8:27 PM EDT on Aug 30, 2018

........Though police said from the start more than one person may have been involved, Wint is the only person charged.

Court documents filed by prosecutors in July raise questions about the way evidence was collected from the crime scene and what may have been missed.

Investigators found a screwdriver holding a window open in the basement of the Savopoulos mansion, according to the court documents. Forensic biologist Emily Head of the ATF "recalls asking that the screwdriver be collected, however, she does not believe it was recovered," the documents say.

Bottles and plastic gloves also were found at the crime scene, but the evidence was never collected because the investigator was told they had been used and left behind by the first-responders and therefore were not relevant to the crime, court documents say.........
Potential Missteps in Mansion Murders Evidence Collection

 

[Paulas88]

Potential Missteps in Mansion Murders Evidence Collection, Court Records Show
By Jodie Fleischer and Meagan Fitzgerald
Published at 4:50 PM EDT on Aug 30, 2018 | Updated at 8:27 PM EDT on Aug 30, 2018

........Though police said from the start more than one person may have been involved, Wint is the only person charged.

Court documents filed by prosecutors in July raise questions about the way evidence was collected from the crime scene and what may have been missed.

Investigators found a screwdriver holding a window open in the basement of the Savopoulos mansion, according to the court documents. Forensic biologist Emily Head of the ATF "recalls asking that the screwdriver be collected, however, she does not believe it was recovered," the documents say.

Bottles and plastic gloves also were found at the crime scene, but the evidence was never collected because the investigator was told they had been used and left behind by the first-responders and therefore were not relevant to the crime, court documents say.........
Potential Missteps in Mansion Murders Evidence Collection

Wow! IMO! This gives strong evidence of an accomplice and explains how DW got in the home. Someone working in the home very recently had to of left that window open.

 

[Seattle1]

Wow! IMO! This gives strong evidence of an accomplice and explains how DW got in the home. Someone working in the home very recently had to of left that window open.

And probably intentional if propped with screwdriver!

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Do we know if they are going to allow cameras in the courtroom?

"Technology in the Courthouse
and Courtroom

Courts in the District do not allow the press and public to photograph, film, or record court proceedings."

Journalists' Handbook to the Courts in the District of Columbia

PDFCouncil for Court Excellence › pdf

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAFegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw1QgeJfsp8ME4c7Vz7k3EFP

 

[Heartis24K]

The first dozen pages of thread would beg to differ! I wouldn't be surprised if JW was in witness protection or similar.. MOO

I did a search and it appeared that JW and his mom are possibly in Iowa.