Debbie Bradley and Jeremy Irwin on Dr. Phil 3 February 2012

[Whisperer]

Wouldn't getting the number of MW's cell phone settle some issues? It would tell if it were close to any numbers used by DB. I have known people who have phone numbers pretty similar to each other. Dialing errors can happen

I wonder if this is just a red herring. The three cell phone fiasco explained to us by DB and her family makes no sense

 

[Whisperer]

So if Bill S is not a PI, why is he there and why is this benefactor paying him to be there? What does Mike L. do for a living? How is he connected to the wealthy woman? Or is he?

 

[Whisperer]

Not one person can answer me about the house on Walrond. Why was Phil N listed as living on lister yet living in a very nice home on Walrond. How long has he lived on Walrond. We were told he rents it. When did he move there?

.....was Phil N. sleeping at the house on Lister on Oct 3rd?

 

[Whisperer]

I would like to see DB questioned on TV by a reporter by herself. I would also like to see JI questioned by himself by a reporter who is not throwing them softballs. Going on Dr. Phil is like going on Larry King. Neither of them will challange. Guess that's why cindy likes to appear with them.

My opinion is that DB is channeling Cindy A and how she made her money.

I will assume neither of these two will go on NG. Her show gets the word out there better
than any about missing children. These two will be sure to stay clear of her, won't they?

I predict these two will implode eventually. They must be getting money and it is going to take much longer for this to happen. I see JI as a very thrifty man who likes to watch his money and I see DB as the complete opposite. If these two are left alone long enough, bliss will be difficult.

 

[cityslick]

Wouldn't getting the number of MW's cell phone settle some issues? It would tell if it were close to any numbers used by DB. I have known people who have phone numbers pretty similar to each other. Dialing errors can happen

I wonder if this is just a red herring. The three cell phone fiasco explained to us by DB and her family makes no sense

I'm not saying it's impossible what you say, but the odds of that actually being the case that is was a misdialed number, and the misdialed number just happened to be to a person with connections to the neighborhood, is one of the crazier coincidences you will ever see. And a lot of people here don't believe in coincidences.

 

[Whisperer]

I'm not saying it's impossible what you say, but the odds of that actually being the case that is was a misdialed number, and the misdialed number just happened to be to a person with connections to the neighborhood, is one of the crazier coincidences you will ever see. And a lot of people here don't believe in coincidences.

Yes, and I am one of those who don't believe in coincidences. However, I have known people that have similar numbers. This number dialed never went through. Whoever had the phone either realized it was a wrong number or didn't want to talk to the person they called.

Knowing the number would resolve the issue. I'm sure LE has resolved it by now. If not, they need to talk to DB. The fact that LE has publicly stated they need to talk to the parents should convince people that the parents are pretty high up there on the suspect list.

The fact that the parents refuse to talk to them tells me they are well aware they are on top of the suspect list. Taking these two facts, one would deduce that the parents have much to lose by talking to LE. Lisa is not their priority, is she were, they would be sitting on the LE steps. Therefore, most will conclude they are guilty and hiding something. If, as a missing parent, this mysterious number could be connected to Jersey, they should be talking to LE to get their baby back.

The phones are red herrings. The three cell phones DB talked about is crazy talk and this dialed number is also nuts. Till the number is proven and intentional, I will say it could be a wrong number. Where do people get the idea that it is connected. If Jersey and Megan don't know DB, how is it connected and why can't it be a wrong number? Jersey lived in the neighborhood, not Megan. It wasn't Jersey's phone that was dialed. I would think he would have his own.

At this point, it is not necessarily a coincidence...if DB didnt know these people...and they are not connected to Lisa being missing. IF you believe Jerseay is the perp and Jersey used Megan's phone to recieve ALL of his calls, then I suppose you would make that leap. However, It is a big leap.

 

[SyraKelly]

If the D/J camp has not interviewed any of those witnesses,what good is it going to do for them to go on Phil...They are going to ask for help looking for Lisa..but won't interview anyone if a tip comes in...They did not even interview MT and he would have be the one to interview-he actually helps their case,but yet..they don't talk with him. something is missing here....B/J should be talking with LE..Not Phil..JMO

 

[In da Middle]

If the D/J camp has not interviewed any of those witnesses,what good is it going to do for them to go on Phil...They are going to ask for help looking for Lisa..but won't interview anyone if a tip comes in...They did not even interview MT and he would have be the one to interview-he actually helps their case,but yet..they don't talk with him. something is missing here....B/J should be talking with LE..Not Phil..JMO

I so agree with this which is why I question why JT/BS are even involved except for the benefit of themselves. Whether your client is innocent or guilty, you should interview EVERYONE that could potentially be a witness to help your client. They are not doing their client any service that I can see.

 

[SyraKelly]

If I knew I was innocent and my lawyer did not interview any witnesses--He would be kicked to the curb-without pay-LOL

 

[Whisperer]

If I knew I was innocent and my lawyer did not interview any witnesses--He would be kicked to the curb-without pay-LOL

They are reaping multiple benefits by having Joe T and Bill S on their team...none of which are helping find Lisa.

Will somebody please explain why DB's benefactor is paying Bill S to be there?

 

[Whisperer]

The disappearance of Lisa Irwin is a mystery. Not much different from what we hear over and over again. In all these cases it is necessary to place all the players where they were at the time of the crime. That is why I am always asking where was so-n-so that day/night? I like to be able to have a map and place the players at a specific local.

It is also would be nice to know what drives a person to want to help out a suspect in the disappearance of a child. There has to be some reasoning behind their generosity. Why did they choose this case? What do they know about the case that makes them desire to be of assistance and help in protecting the "suspect". (we all know DB is a suspect, or should know)

Mike LeRette is DB's cousin and former Spokesperson. Was he replaced by Bill S? Bill S has not interviewed anyone yet is being paid for his part...of which none of us have any idea what it is.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

I'm taking a lunch break for the next hour. If anybody has any questions re Dr. Phil or other aspect of the case or my blog, feel free to jump in while I'm taking a break here.

I am behind in reading the posts on this thread, so this may come in at a random place. But, thank you, Kansascitypi, for taking the time and energy to help us Sleuthers on WS try to find out how we can help Baby Lisa come home!

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

 

[Whisperer]

I'm not saying it's impossible what you say, but the odds of that actually being the case that is was a misdialed number, and the misdialed number just happened to be to a person with connections to the neighborhood, is one of the crazier coincidences you will ever see. And a lot of people here don't believe in coincidences.

I don't see how the mis-dialed number is connected to the neighborhood. You can make a stretch for that conclusion. Here's what I think. People are convinced Jersey is part of the crime and they are using this potential call as a fit for their premise.

Example: Jersey did it therefore, it can be proven because..

a. he lived in the neighborhood
b. somebody saw him or somebody that looks like him carrying a baby.
c. water sprinklers were left on. Jersey should have shut them off if he wasnt so busy stealing a baby.
d. Megan almost received a phone call from DB's phone.
e. Jersey was the one who called MW when he stole DB's three cells.

None of this, when put together, concludes or comes close to Jersey placing a call and making him the prime suspect. The dots do not connect.

However, if I were to find out that Jersey is a crazed/maniac/psycho or pedophile than I will adjust my theory accordingly. These types don't hide their victims very well if at all.

 

[4Jacy]

I would like to see DB questioned on TV by a reporter by herself. I would also like to see JI questioned by himself by a reporter who is not throwing them softballs. Going on Dr. Phil is like going on Larry King. Neither of them will challange. Guess that's why cindy likes to appear with them.

My opinion is that DB is channeling Cindy A and how she made her money.

I will assume neither of these two will go on NG. Her show gets the word out there better than any about missing children. These two will be sure to stay clear of her, won't they?

I predict these two will implode eventually. They must be getting money and it is going to take much longer for this to happen. I see JI as a very thrifty man who likes to watch his money and I see DB as the complete opposite. If these two are left alone long enough, bliss will be difficult.

BBMMy thoughts exactly. Too bad though, Nancy is a shark and very dedicated, so is JVM.

I don't see how their relationship can be saved with so much tension. I wonder how much Jeremy knows.

 

[~n/t~]

I don't see how the mis-dialed number is connected to the neighborhood. You can make a stretch for that conclusion. Here's what I think. People are convinced Jersey is part of the crime and they are using this potential call as a fit for their premise.

Example: Jersey did it therefore, it can be proven because..

a. he lived in the neighborhood
b. somebody saw him or somebody that looks like him carrying a baby.
c. water sprinklers were left on. Jersey should have shut them off if he wasnt so busy stealing a baby.
d. Megan almost received a phone call from DB's phone.
e. Jersey was the one who called MW when he stole DB's three cells.

None of this, when put together, concludes or comes close to Jersey placing a call and making him the prime suspect. The dots do not connect.

They were bf & gf. It's not a stretch to think the call originated from Jersey and went to Megan.

JS said he's having a difficult time trying to visit or talk to Jersey in jail. If he's in there for a petty crime, why no visits or calls?

 

[~n/t~]

I would like to see DB questioned on TV by a reporter by herself. I would also like to see JI questioned by himself by a reporter who is not throwing them softballs. Going on Dr. Phil is like going on Larry King. Neither of them will challange. Guess that's why cindy likes to appear with them.

My opinion is that DB is channeling Cindy A and how she made her money.

I will assume neither of these two will go on NG. Her show gets the word out there better
than any about missing children. These two will be sure to stay clear of her, won't they?

I predict these two will implode eventually. They must be getting money and it is going to take much longer for this to happen. I see JI as a very thrifty man who likes to watch his money and I see DB as the complete opposite. If these two are left alone long enough, bliss will be difficult.

bbm. Would you? I'd start stuttering at "Good evening, Nancy". :floorlaugh:

 

[Whisperer]

Was Lisa taken by a person that wanted a baby? No, imo...because they took nothing with them. They didn't take a bottle, food, clothing, a pacifier or even a blanket. We always hear about this scenario though.

Was Lisa taken by a psycho maniac/ drug dealer, baby traffiker? possibly...extremely rare.

Was she taken by a pedophile? possibly...extremely rare.

If abducted, Lisa's life meant nothing to the person. I am eliminating family, friends and the occasional abductor because nothing of comfort was taken with/for Lisa.

 

[Whisperer]

They were bf & gf. It's not a stretch to think the call originated from Jersey and went to Megan.

JS said he's having a difficult time trying to visit or talk to Jersey in jail. If he's in there for a petty crime, why no visits or calls?

I thought they had parted a month prior (at least). Do we know Jersey didn't have his own phone? How old was MW's phone? Had it been changed since they broke up?



There may be many reasons jersey could be refusing visits from the media. There also could be many reasons LE do not want the media talking to him. He could also be in a mental health status.

None of these mean he is the suspect. It could mean that LE and he are both aware that people think he is guilty and want to keep him out of the spotlight and harm's way.

 

[TxLady2]

Hey, kansascitypi.... read your blog.
Dr. Phil is not a native of KC, he was born and raised in Texas. He did go to high school in Kansas City, KS,( not MO) but went to college in OK and then the Univerity of N.Texas. He lived in Dallas until he started his t.v. show several years ago. His father had a practice in Wichita Falls, TX. at one time.
I know I have heard him say that he is a born-and-bred Texan, so I looked it up.

http://www.thebiographychannel.co.uk/biographies/dr-phil.html

"Phil McGraw was the straight-talking Texan whose advice won Oprah her lawsuit against angry beef farmers. He is the former college linebacker who became a hit TV psychologist."

 

[askfornina]

I am loving the activity Lisa's forum is getting. So nice to see her story getting attention again.