Defense Witness List

[Numbers]

I think I figured out where JB found all his experts -

He went on line to Amazon.com.

Since they all seem to be for sale to the highest bidder, I would guess eBay.

 

[The World According]

Actually it was placed over the mandible and part of the maxilla. Here are pictures of both: So according to these pictures the entire mouth was covered.

http://iv.nucleusinc.com/imagescooked/3535W.jpg

Maybe Jamie Weintraub is saying it was not placed over the nose, just the mandible and that in her mind means it was not meant to kill. She'll say anything for money.

I cannot wait, cannot wait to watch Baez make an idiot out of himself as he did when he questioned Yuri Melich - he was as antagonistic as could be and for what reason - Melich is the lead detective and Baez was implying that he took forever to get to the house because the case was not important to him. He looked like an ambulance chaser and a fifth rate lawyer. His e-mails show he has not improved. I don't see him improving much in the next five months which will fly by and then we can all sit back and watch what he does.

He has a huge mouth and very little comes out of it - when he was asked about Kronk this past week, he replied that he never said "such a thing" meaning Kronk was not in the defenses eyes as a suspect when we all know he was big time.

Yes! Good for Jeff Ashton for attaching the actual e mails. Judge Perry is going to be none too amused. Love, love, love these ADA s on the case!

 

[ThinkTank]

New Defense Experts added to Witness List Nov 30, 2010
- Dr. Jane Bock - Colorado - Expert - Botany - added to List June 30, 2010 - not on Aug 30, 2010 Defense Witness List - put back on List Nov 30, 2010
- Richard Eikelenboom - Netherlands - Expert - DNA
- Dr. Michael Freeman - Oregon - Expert - Epidemiologist
- Dr. Tim Huntington - Nebraska - Expert - Entomology - added to List June 30, 2010 - not on Aug 30, 2010 Defense Witness List - put back on List Nov 30, 2010
- Dr. John Leeson - Winter Springs, FL - Expert - Digital Forensics - Computer
- Dr. Barry Logan - Willow Grove, PA - Expert - Forensic Chemist - this is PA LAB that
tested shorts and laundry bag
- Michael O'Kelly - Nebraska - Expert - Cell towers and cell phones
- Dr. Kathy Reichs - North Carolina - Expert - Anthropology - conducted anthropological exam on Caylee
- Dr. William Rodriguez - Maryland - Expert - Anthropologist/Taphonony
- Dr. Werner Spitz - Michigan - Expert - Forensic Pathology - performed second autopsy on Caylee

Defense Experts REMOVED from Defense Witness List as of Nov 30, 2010
- Larry Daniel - North Carolina - Guardian digital Forensics - Computer EXPERT
was listed Nov 20, 2008 - was REMOVED from List by Aug 30, 2010
[replaced by Dr. John Leeson?]

- Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky - New York - John Jay College - DNA EXPERT
was listed Jan 22, 2009 - was REMOVED from List by Aug 30, 2010

- Nicholas Petraco - New York - John Jay College of Criminal Justice -
EXPERT - Criminalist and Hair Banding Expert - Forensic Science
He reviewed the evidence in July 2010, and was sent FBI samples Q12 and
Q12.1 - hair in trunk - to examine in October 2010
Never officially placed on Defense Witness List - announced in Nov 29,2010
Status Hearing that he would not be a Defense Witness.

 

[TotallyObsessed]

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Gaia I agree! if Janie wants to be on a panel about this case she needs to read up.She is always wrong!!!:banghead:

MOO - I cannot STAND JW....her mouth is far bigger than her brain. Makes her look stupid.

 

[strawberry]

bbm
I thought so too then it hit me.... Baez understood BUT this was away for him to get back at Ashton.
Remember when Ashton submitted the list of aggravating factors for seeking the Death Penalty....he submitted a Notice listing the Statutes.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104580&page=3


Order by Judge Perry
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3869344...rticulars-Regarding-Aggravating-Circumstances

Notice of Aggravating Circumstances by the State
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23545129/detail.html

The Defense fired back with another Motion saying the State's list was 'insufficient'
Motion to Strike State's Notice of Aggravating Circumstances
http://www.ninthcircuit.org/news/Hi...ce of Aggravating Circumstances 5-18-2010.pdf

Order Denying Motion to Strike State's Notice of Aggravating Circumstances
http://www.ninthcircuit.org/news/Hi...ce of Aggravating Circumstances 5-18-2010.pdf
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Baez's email to Ashton of the Expert Witnesses was IMO all about Payback for the Aggravating Factors List.[/COLOR]:twocents:

BBM Excellent point! JA and LDB have a way of getting in derogatory points verbally and in writing very subtly and with a sharp humor. JB tries to imitate this but does not have the sophistication to make it sarcastic yet subtle. It's like he is Laurel and Hardy slapstick while they are more of the George Carlin genre. IMO

 

[AZlawyer]

I can hardly wait to hear what Judge BP is going to have to say about JA's motion to compel. I bet he is not going to sit on it until the next status hearing, after all, the list is due TODAY.

I guess questions I have for our lawyers out there is could the Judge picke up the phone and conference both JA and JB about this motion without there being a hearing on it? If so, would it have to be video taped like the last telephone conference? And the biggest question, if you were Judge BP, how would you deal with this? What do you expect will be done?

I have to say that I don't think JB's fingers have ever stung too much from any of the smacks (mildly stern lectures) from the Judge. JB reminds me of a willful school brat that talks back to a teacher and says, "you can scream all you want, but you can't really do anything about it."

If you ask me, JA also knows how to play the media and work the Judge to get what he wants. He chose to release the emails and knew full well "we" (the media, nasty bloggers and forum participants) would see it all.

I just love what Valhall post today about the whole thing and think she has got JB's number!

I can hardly wait to see what happens!

HHJP could definitely have an improptu telephonic conference. I've received a couple of those calls myself--luckily I was not the one being called on the carpet.

I believe all proceedings in his courtroom are videotaped, but if he calls from his chambers perhaps it would not be videotaped. He might have a court reporter there, but unless there was some challenge to what was said, we would never see a transcript.

IMO HHJP did not mean for JB simply to say "my forensics expert will testify about forensics AS YOU KNOW JA nanny nanny boo boo." However, I don't expect HHJP to do anything more than clarify his ruling and silently make one more mark next to JB's name on the chalkboard in his head. Sometimes the worst sanction a judge can impose is the loss of his respect for you.

 

[LancelotLink]

During the hearing, JB offered to speak with JA after the trial and HHBP said plainly, "NO. This needs to be in writing." And even with that word from the judge, JB still insists in the emails that JA can just ask him for more information and he will gladly tell him.
I don't know if it is stubbornness or something else, besides silly.

 

[Intermezzo]

During the hearing, JB offered to speak with JA after the trial and HHBP said plainly, "NO. This needs to be in writing." And even with that word from the judge, JB still insists in the emails that JA can just ask him for more information and he will gladly tell him.
I don't know if it is stubbornness or something else, besides silly.

bbm
I remember that as well...now does sending an Email constitute 'in writing'?

Baez stating in the emails to JA to 'just ask' IMO is defying Judge Perry's Order..he specifically wanted it all in writing..

IMO Baez does this to play th "He Said, He Said, I never Said" card

 

[Horace Finklestein]

HHJP could definitely have an improptu telephonic conference. I've received a couple of those calls myself--luckily I was not the one being called on the carpet.

I believe all proceedings in his courtroom are videotaped, but if he calls from his chambers perhaps it would not be videotaped. He might have a court reporter there, but unless there was some challenge to what was said, we would never see a transcript.

IMO HHJP did not mean for JB simply to say "my forensics expert will testify about forensics AS YOU KNOW JA nanny nanny boo boo." However, I don't expect HHJP to do anything more than clarify his ruling and silently make one more mark next to JB's name on the chalkboard in his head. Sometimes the worst sanction a judge can impose is the loss of his respect for you.

So is Jose confusing the "substance" of their testimony with the "topic" of their testimony? I hope that makes sense...it seems Baez is confident he just needs to tell JA what area the person is an expert in.

For example, if I understand this correctly, JA is entitled to know if Baez' expert will testify that hair had a deathband, as opposed to just being told "He'll testify about hair"?

 

[Kathy1964]

Somehow, I feel that this whole exchange has CMs influence all over it. Remember when he supposedly said he would schedule depositions when he wanted to, the judge couldn't tell him what to do (in reference to deadlines)!!! I don't have a link for that-anybody have one?

 

[kaRN]

bbm
I remember that as well...now does sending an Email constitute 'in writing'?

Baez stating in the emails to JA to 'just ask' IMO is defying Judge Perry's Order..he specifically wanted it all in writing..

IMO Baez does this to play th "He Said, He Said, I never Said" card

Somebody asked earlier if BP had included emails in the list of information that was to be provided to the SAO. IIRC the judge did not and many here felt that might be a technical loophole for JB if all his communications had been via email. I don't see how that's possible considering the secure system he was supposed to be using to exchange sensitive documents like the autopsy photos etc with his experts.In any case. JB has submitted an email as the long list the judge requested. Does that now open the door to all relevant emails by default or can the state demand them now?

He thought he was being clever with his refence to Dr Lee having set precedent in having unsupervised access to the evidence in the PS case and that opened a door for the state to ensure all the defense experts were supervised. I'm just wondering if his arrogant bufoonery (sp?) might do the same here in the long run.

JB is a follower, not a leader. He's doing this tit for tat thing because he didn't get a slapdown last week at the staus hearing. I believe BP was reserving his energy for whatever trial JB's intern made him late for. JB is learning by imitation like a toddler does. He doesn't have the intellectual development for critical thinking yet, maybe he never will at the rate he's going IMO.

 

[nums24]

GRRR! :banghead:

The Ninth Circuit has this order posted on their site, but the link isn't working yet, I've emailed them to let them know!

Order Addressing Motions to Compel Additional Discovery & Other Dicovery Matters 12-3-10

http://www.ninthcircuit.org/news/Hi...tional Discovery & Other Dicovery Matters.pdf

 

[Solace]

Forgive me, but I thought the motion with the e-mails was pre-hearing. Either Baez is dumber than I thought (which is very possible) or he really cares nothing about this case except for the notariety it will bring him - it is likely both.

For him to write these comments after each expert does nothing for his case except show Judge Perry that he needs to enlighten him once again on manners and professionalism. He just is not that bright.

He comes ill-prepared, shuffling through papers to see what has been done instead of having everything at his fingertips and in ORDER to show everyone that he is on top of EVERYTHING, motions, dates, witnesses, etc. This takes time to do but if he had the paralegal on top of it to make sure he had everything he needed before he went to each hearing, it would become second nature and he would look prepared instead of having to say "bear with me" ad nauseum. It also might help if the paralegals weren't twelve years old or close to it, but then he would not get away with paying them $.12 an hour or something.

But as usual, it is obvious he has put more thought into the ridiculous sign outside his law office than in the actual case at hand.

 

[nums24]

Order Addressing Motions to Compel & Other Discovery:

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/Casey-Anthony-Motion-1203.pdf

 

[Jomo]

Order Addressing Motions to Compel & Other Discovery:

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/Casey-Anthony-Motion-1203.pdf

So, do you think he is going to make the deadline? :Banane45:

 

[nums24]

So, do you think he is going to make the deadline? :Banane45:

For all we know, he already has. I posted the docket update in today's news, someone turned over some discovery.

 

[Jomo]

Somehow, I feel that this whole exchange has CMs influence all over it. Remember when he supposedly said he would schedule depositions when he wanted to, the judge couldn't tell him what to do (in reference to deadlines)!!! I don't have a link for that-anybody have one?

I think that they are just two peas in a pod! JB didn't need CM to influence him to be an idiot.

 

[Intermezzo]

Any further filings by the Defense?

It's not yet 5pm, so one never knows.

oops..sorry forgot about your post Nums24

12/03/2010 Notice of Provision of Supplemental Discovery

 

[Horace Finklestein]

I think I figured out where JB found all his experts -

He went on line to Amazon.com.

That makes sense, he wants the JAC to pay for shipping.

 

[nums24]

Dr. William Rodriguez - Forensic Anthropologist

Dr. Rodriguez is with the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology/Office of Armed Forces Medical Examiner.

Here are some links related to him:

Another Entomologist Takes Stand In Westerfield Trial
http://www.10news.com/news/1588407/detail.html

http://www.10news.com/news/1590476/detail.html (Photo in Article)

Forensic Entomology Lecture at National Zoo 2/20/2010
http://www.entomologyblog.info/forensic-entomology-lecture-at-national-zoo/comment-page-1

Banita Jacks Trial: Defense Moves to Dismiss
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/.../banita-jacks-trial-defense-moves-to-dismiss/


Page 9: http://www.afip.org/Downloads/newsletter/168-2.pdf

Forensic feat IDs nearly all Pentagon victims
http://911research.wtc7.net/cache/sept11/victims/dcmilitary.html

Press Release: http://msp.maryland.gov/media/press_release_details.asp?identifier=784

And last but not least, he just had himself added to the Expert Witness Marketing Blog:

http://expertwitnessguru.com/blog/archives/85