Details Emerge: Casey/Cindy Fight - Part 1

[mrstewart]

I go back to Caylee's video and listen to it over and over again. I personally feel her vocabulary was very limited.
http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/pictures

It could have been, but my son is almost 3 and his vocab has really blossomed lately, but a few months ago I was still able to "lead" questions with him and get some information...Maybe Casey was getting nervous that Caylee would start talking and telling everyone what they did all day long. Maybe Caylee was verbally delayed because she was "knocked out" all day on drugs so Casey could play...

 

[CASuzk]

And just because someone has a college degree doesn't mean they are intelligent. Some of the brightest people I ever met had little education and some of the stupidest were well educated.

Good for you!
My uncle left HS to tend to family matters and by the time he died, he owned a home in Rancho Santa Fe, CA and left an estate worth millions and a legacy of charitable caring that lives beyond his earthly life.

Casey, on the other hand, suffered no hardships which would have prevented her from getting a diploma and at least heading to a community college. She was not pregnant in HS. Even her parents were surprised that she didn't at least graduate from HS.
Casey's inability to get even a basic education tells us more about her character. Paris Hilton can flunk out of high school and party all she wants and she still wouldn't have to sponge off her family; Casey does not have that luxury.

 

[Chilly Willy]

This kills me...that poor baby deserved more.

All babies deserve more. No child should be born to a mother who can love only herself. Caylee was fortunate in her too brief time on earth to know the love of grandparents who obviously thought the sun rose and set with her. She's a happy girl in the videos, and very well taken care of. Casey took that away because she's a selfish vengeful witch. She will pay for her crimes eventually. Unfortunately no punishment can not undo what she's done.

 

[Patty G]

Maybe Caylee was verbally delayed because she was "knocked out" all day on drugs so Casey could play...

Boy, oh boy, I sure hope that wasn't the case at all! But one never knows what went on with Casey!

Actually once I heard about the "weed" from Leonard on TV, I was concerned if Casey ever did this while Caylee was in the room. Inhaling that stuff second hand gives the person a buzz too! I know that one from first-hand experience when someone smoked that stuff and I was in a closed room (many moons ago, late 60's.) Oh my goodness!

 

[Jolynna]

too bad Cynthia didn't get counseling for the POI YEARS ago! Her lying issues are not new... perhaps the POI was beyond help...as most sociopaths or other untreatable personality disorders but geez.....she has been covering this kind of behavior for years if we are to believe her "best friend" in the 400 page document.

Maybe Cindy was hoping Casey's problems with lies was something she would outgrow? I read somewhere Casey was an honor roll student and cheerleader although she didn't finish school.

The thing about people with personality disorders is that they aren't bad all the time. Ted Bundy was a crisis center volunteer. Ann Rule (the author) worked next to him and said he saved lives.

I am sure Casey was also loving too. Look at the pictures of her with Caylee. Plus, she was most likely also able to make pitiful promises to change. Most sociopaths are good at acting sincere.

Women put up with abusive, horrible men out of love. They hope the man will change.

I can see why a mother would give a daughter chances.

There is no way a Cindy could imagine the awful consequences to Caylee. No matter how bad Casey was, seeing the videos of them together, who could have predicted what was to come?

 

[softsoul]

I'm new here, but I just have to say with tongue firmly in cheek, nice try Lake Erie Princess but I'm afraid these morons are from your home state and not the south. In other words, we'll give Ohio credit for them.

The "morons" may be from Ohio but the sociopath was raised in Florida.

 

[Patty G]

The "morons" may be from Ohio but the sociopath was raised in Florida.

 

[JayBee1940]

I wish that I could remember where I saw it, but I thought that Cindy "took care of it" and not that she paid it, but that she went down to the bank with the great grandmother and they got the money back because of a technicality that the bank never should have given KC the money to begin with. I will dig and see if I can find it again.

It is possibly a trust account. The trustee (probably Cindy's mom) is the only signatory on the account. JMO

My mother is in a nursing home and Medicaid required that a "Qualifying Income Trust" account be set up. A portion of her income goes into that account and the funds can only be used for mother's care....nothing else.

 

[CASuzk]

I go back to Caylee's video and listen to it over and over again. I personally feel her vocabulary was very limited.
http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/pictures

In the video, Caylee seems to be mimicking the way someone has read a book to her and it might not be a full representation of her verbal abilities.

IF this is the way she talked, then yes, I would agree that she show a lag in verbal skills for an almost 3 year old, especially since she is a female child.

I know that at 2 and half, my DD walked out of her ballet class where she had taken a poll on underwear and then she indignantly informed me that some of the girls were still wearing pull-ups and one actually had on a diaper.
Yes, she would have been able to tell me where she had been during the day and with whom she had done it with.

 

[Patty G]

It is possibly a trust account. The trustee (probably Cindy's mom) is the only signatory on the account. JMO

My mother is in a nursing home and Medicaid required that a "Qualifying Income Trust" account be set up. A portion of her income goes into that account and the funds can only be used for mother's care....nothing else.

Thank you for posting that info about the "Qualifying Income Trust" account.

Now does a portion of your mother's social security go into the trust account?

 

[leandjl]

The relationship between Casey and Cindy is indeed strange. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I believe Cindy is narsacisstic (sp?) and Casey is a sociopath. They have completely forgotten about poor little Caylee. Cindy is basking in the male attention of George and Lee and their protection efforts and Casey is basking in her make believe world where Baez is her knight in shining armor and is madly in love with her. Lock them both up - together - they deserve each other.

 

[Blackwatch]

This part of the article really disgusts me for some reason:
"As soon as the brother and sister got through the path between reporters, they high-fived each other as if they were celebrating some sort of victory."

High fiving? Casey needs to go the F' up! She should not ever smile, be happy or "high-five" as long as her daughter is "missing". She should be miserable and sad. She doesn't even care one ounce about Caylee.

ITA, BUT, I believe this is how that family thinks. I see no tears from any of them about the "beloved" grandbaby. What I see on the media is violence from George, a gun in his SUV, some threats on videos, like get out of the way, or don't come across this line, etc. I believe Cindy's brother, Rick, said George put his father through a plate glass window. Now, we have pushing protestors and throwing chairs, umbrellas, and an American flag brought by other protestors. George seems to have been a bit out of control before Caylee went missing. He also picked up a lot of knowledge from being in LE, knowledge which I believe may have come in mighty handy in certain situations.

Lee is keeping a real low profile. Interesting. I'm not sure what to make of that.

Cindy? From the start of this mess, the 3rd 911 call, I did not trust that woman. I have kids who mimic panic better than that, but, of course some of my kids just ain't right, know what I mean? If you don't, get on your knees and be thankful.

As for Casey? Well, she doesn't seem to be a grieving mother, but from some of the info that came out, she didn't really want to keep Caylee. Cindy wanted her to. WHY? So Cindy could raise the baby? So Cindy could be a mommy again? Who knows why any mother would force her child to keep a baby they didn't want. I believe Ted Bundy was raised in somewhat similar circumstances and look how he turned out.

Casey is a mess, no doubt about it, but what MADE her that way? Some are born like that. Some are created by circumstances and bad parenting. Some are abused. I have no idea what happened to Casey, but I know I don't put the blame or the guilt on her shoulders alone. Hell, Casey more be more innocent than anyone gives her credit for. In fact, I believe this script has a lot of players.

IMO, of course.

 

[jat]

I know most won't agree with me, but I feel so sorry for Cindy. She tried to do the right thing in attempting to throw Casey out and keep Caylee. I'm sure she feels quite a bit of guilt - if she hadn't confronted Casey none of this would have happened. I wonder if that's why she refuses to believe Casey harmed Caylee. If she accepts the truth, she has to accept that her actions (although they were right) started the whole string of events that led to Caylee's disappearance and likely her death.

I couldn't agree more. While Cindy certainly makes it very hard to sympathize with her...I understand that she feels so much guilt. Anyone who has had a family member whom they have had to cut off and then something terrible happens will know this feeling. And in Cindy's situation...the absolute worst has happened. I can not even IMAGINE the pain that is building deep down inside her. One day she may actually die of the grief.

 

[SpottedCat]

All along I've thought that Casey did not like the fact that Caylee was closer to Cindy than she was, and if Cindy threatened custody then Casey figured "if I can't have her, then neither can you." :cry:

 

[Gaia713]

I hope so, I guess the Great-Grandma would have to file charges.
I'll say this much, when this case goes to trial and the jury hears
about all of Casey's transgressions, their deliberations should not last over one hour. jmo

ETA _ I meant Caylee's Great-Grandma

Makes you wonder if those charges are pending

 

[Girlrilla]

The "morons" may be from Ohio but the sociopath was raised in Florida.

There are sociopaths and morons alike in every state. :chicken:

 

[TimeWillTell]

I didn't graduate from high school either. I left high school in my Junior year at the age of 16, to go to work to keep a roof over my head and my brother's as my mother tried to commit suicide.

I managed to get a great job, and my last poisition in life, I was the Executive Assistant to the President of a Chemical Company and then was Human Resource Manager later on within the company.

I got my FULL high school diploma when I was 45 and I will be 61. Just because someone doesn't have a high school diploma doesn't mean they can't go out and get a good job and earn good wages.

Thanks for responding to this Patty, I have seen this mentioned before but did not comment. I too did not get my HSD but today I hold a career that requires a 4 year degree, I got this job through years of hard work and experience.

 

[Jolynna]

I go back to Caylee's video and listen to it over and over again. I personally feel her vocabulary was very limited.
http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/pictures

I do too.

 

[leandjl]

Thanks for responding to this Patty, I have seen this mentioned before but did not comment. I too did not get my HSD but today I hold a career that requires a 4 year degree, I got this job through years of hard work and experience.

My hat is off to both you ladies! Well done.

 

[Gaia713]

Good for you!
My uncle left HS to tend to family matters and by the time he died, he owned a home in Rancho Santa Fe, CA and left an estate worth millions and a legacy of charitable caring that lives beyond his earthly life.

Casey, on the other hand, suffered no hardships which would have prevented her from getting a diploma and at least heading to a community college. She was not pregnant in HS. Even her parents were surprised that she didn't at least graduate from HS.
Casey's inability to get even a basic education tells us more about her character. Paris Hilton can flunk out of high school and party all she wants and she still wouldn't have to sponge off her family; Casey does not have that luxury.

One of my children would have left high school one credit short to graduate. I made him go back for a fifth year to make it up so he could get his diploma. He thanked me for making him do that when he was 19. That was the sweetewst thank you I ever got from any of my kids.