Did Lisa's Mom do it? Poll

[cakegirl0905]

So, I was on the fence or even on her side until I found out she lied about the timeline. I DO find her amount of drinking while caring for young children bothersome, but not a nail in the coffin. But lying to LE when your baby is missing is unforgivable.

She changed her timeline by FOUR hours! FOUR! And she did it knowingly to cover her butt about something-whether it was because she put her baby in the crib so she could get plastered, or if it was because she did something to hurt the baby I don't know. But lying to LE when you should be searching for your baby means something is terribly amiss.

 

[Abby Normal]

So, I was on the fence or even on her side until I found out she lied about the timeline. I DO find her amount of drinking while caring for young children bothersome, but not a nail in the coffin. But lying to LE when your baby is missing is unforgivable.

She changed her timeline by FOUR hours! FOUR! And she did it knowingly to cover her butt about something-whether it was because she put her baby in the crib so she could get plastered, or if it was because she did something to hurt the baby I don't know. But lying to LE when you should be searching for your baby means something is terribly amiss.

To the media. It's been reported that LE knew all along and she just didn't want to open herself up for public scrutiny. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought her lawyer said that it was not news to LE.

of course if she was in fact lying to LE, then I agree with ya. I guess we will just have to wait until the facts start getting released.

 

[askfornina]

To the media. It's been reported that LE knew all along and she just didn't want to open herself up for public scrutiny. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought her lawyer said that it was not news to LE.

of course if she was in fact lying to LE, then I agree with ya. I guess we will just have to wait until the facts start getting released.

i am also under the impression that the neighbor was over for an as-of-yet undetermined (publicly) period of time in this "four hour" gap. just adding more info.

:fence:

 

[CaraJay]

I didn't mean to call her names but she is loving this media attention and I see shades of Casey Anthony. What happened to Lisa Irwin is getting lost on all the attention Mom is getting. The mom has lied more than once, I don't believe a word out of her mouth. I don't think highly of anyone that is in charge of three young children being drunk. I'm getting tired of it being all about her and not Lisa.

JMO

 

[AZlawyer]

Personally I am still not convinced on the drinking to excess/possibly blacking out scenario. If Debbie regularly drinks I find it implausible that 5 glasses of wine could cause a black out. I think it more likely she needed an excuse as to her inconsistencies and inability to remember.

My impression the whole way along is that Debbie is very concerned with Debbie.

JMO

ETA: Debbie also copped to taking AA meds which apparently can lead to a higher likelihood for blackouts when combined with alcohol. This really is all just a little too convenient for my liking.

BBM

She didn't say she had 5 glasses, though--she said (IIRC) that she probably had more than 5 glasses.

 

[wonders]

Just my 2 cents.
How about the father?
Started a new job. Is he a job hopper?
Came home, saw that his s/o had been drinking and maybe even found her drunk, maybe Baby Lisa is crying, he loses it and whammo.
At least one light on in each room of the house? He's the one who finds the screen deal?
His flat affect is disturbing to me.
I'd like to know more about him.
Could he be jealous his s/o might find another man?
I so wish Baby Lisa could be found.
When she is found I want her to be safe, happy & healthy.

 

[cakegirl0905]

Quick question: the police knew all along that Lisa was last seen at 6:30 and just reported to the public that it was 10:30? Is that right?

 

[Jennerbear]

I changed my mind... I am no longer on the fence but think mom may have had something to do with this. Not good.

 

[3doglady]

Quick, someone catch me. I'm falling off the fence. :thud: The drinking was bad but the lies make them both look guilty.

 

[Lera213]

interested to see how many were on the fence when this poll was first put out and now off that fence.

 

[MsMacGyver]

Huge red flag..The lawyer in his statement to the media says..."these two parents who are grieving the loss of their child...then he recovers and says we hope the baby will be returned safe and in good health. You even hear the lawyer stumble a bit while speaking. Why would the lawyer use this phrase for a missing child. Does anyone else see how the tide has turned regarding the words spoken. I still feel the lawyer is setting the mom up when she is arrested by LE. Mom saying she was drunk...covering her actions during the time period baby goes "missing"...IMO..Lisa isn't missing, shes dead. There was an accident, mom possibly negligent.
My suggestion..go back and watch first interview..mom talks alot while dad sits with his head down..mom keeps looking at dad..something very off...hinky.
HLN says tonight mom now on drugs to calm her...thats why her demeanor was different on last interview..keep this in mind when judging her...jmo

 

[MsMacGyver]

Keep in mind Lisa was sick...could be she had some respiratory distress while in her crib and died. Mom found her and panic set in.

Reports today of a sighting..two women with a baby..who goes into a public place after kidnapping a child. I believe theres a very good chance this sighting will be false. Maybe they went in looking for a restroom. Location looks like it's close to the tollway.jmo

 

[legalmania]

I haven't been keeping up did the mother or brother ever explain where the children were when she was at the store buying the wine?

 

[Mountain_Kat]

How come we don't have a poll that asks if the Dad was in on it?

 

[w1df10wr]

Keep in mind Lisa was sick...could be she had some respiratory distress while in her crib and died. Mom found her and panic set in.

Reports today of a sighting..two women with a baby..who goes into a public place after kidnapping a child. I believe theres a very good chance this sighting will be false. Maybe they went in looking for a restroom. Location looks like it's close to the tollway.jmo

How do we know Lisa was really sick?

 

[ketel0ne]

How do we know Lisa was really sick?

Or that Lisa was even in the house after dark. We haven't heard that anyone has confirmed they saw Lisa on Monday. No neighbor, no brother, no one but DB and JI. Police have not said what interviews with those closest to the family have yielded.

 

[MsMacGyver]

Notice in most recent interview when mom says she was drunk..

When a person is making things up their eyes move to the viewers left...
When remembering details their eyes move to the viewers right...

During this interview it was really obvious to me mom was looking to my left which could be a sign she lying.
Keep in mind if mom is left handed it will reverse the positions and a base line is required on a person to have a starting point to work off of...jmo

 

[legalmania]

How do we know Lisa was really sick?

She looked pretty healthy in the videos. The video I saw she was only about 3 to 4 months but seemed very happy and healthy. Was she born sick or did she just become sick over the last few months?

 

[jjenny]

She looked pretty healthy in the videos. The video I saw she was only about 3 to 4 months but seemed very happy and healthy. Was she born sick or did she just become sick over the last few months?

She doesn't have any chronic diseases. Supposedly she had a cold.

 

[Tuffy]

She looked pretty healthy in the videos. The video I saw she was only about 3 to 4 months but seemed very happy and healthy. Was she born sick or did she just become sick over the last few months?

Mom said she had a cold and a cough when she disappeared.