Discussions on Formal Sentencing Hearing - Jodi Arias #2

[Mrs G Norris]

Does it make it right if the woman had bias against Juan Martinez because he prosecuted her ex-husband? I'm not in favor of those threatening her, but I'm thankful there are people out there sleuthing her so we can make sure she didn't commit any crimes when she got on the jury.

Be angry at the system if that is the case, if all of the above is true the court should have noted it and she should have been weeded out .. maybe it would be constructive to petition your local politicians for change, not go after an individual .. that will only skew any reasonable argument people may have.

 

[sammie]

Be angry at the system if that is the case, if all of the above is true the court should have noted it and she should have been weeded out .. maybe it would be constructive to petition your local politicians for change, not go after an individual .. that will only skew any reasonable argument people may have.

I'm not going after anyone, but thanks for your concern.

 

[elementary]

There is plenty of crazy on both sides of this .. it doesn't make any of it right IMO.

False equivalency, IMO.

 

[FelicityLemon]

My opinion is that if that less-than-ethical juror honestly felt she did the right thing, she'd have no problem owning it to the media. Stand up and be proud of your decisions and following through with your conviction - that kind of thing.

She knows she didn't do the right thing.

 

[WhoaIsMe]

Does it make it right if the woman had bias against Juan Martinez because he prosecuted her ex-husband? I'm not in favor of those threatening her, but I'm thankful there are people out there sleuthing her so we can make sure she didn't commit any crimes when she got on the jury.

I've seen those, and indeed, he did put some guy in prison but do we know for sure that that is her ex? Not being snarky. It's a sincere question because the places I've seen it don't show a thread leading all the way back to her. Just a court document that shows JM as prosecutor and then that guys lengthy prison record.

 

[elementary]

Does it make it right if the woman had bias against Juan Martinez because he prosecuted her ex-husband? I'm not in favor of those threatening her, but I'm thankful there are people out there sleuthing her so we can make sure she didn't commit any crimes when she got on the jury.

Who has theatened her. Where is the evidence?

 

[cece5300]

Praying for the Alexanders tonight. I hope Travis is offering them some comfort. I hope peace comes soon and that time can somewhat mend the wounds that keep ripping open. I hope karma takes care of the Inmate who doesn't even deserve to be mentioned by name and all of her rabid crazed followers as well.

Looking at all the overwhelming support for Travis and his family gives me comfort and hope that good can still triumph over evil, even if the justice system is horribly warped. Like Tanisha said, God will get it right in the afterlife. He doesn't make mistakes

I hope the Inmate is seething in her cell tonight. 11-1 baby, 11-1.

Hearing the jurors speak (the 11 relevant jurors anyway) has comforted me so much and I pray it offers some comfort to Travis's loved ones as well.

I'm going to miss my friends here. Two years here. See you in April

 

[WhoaIsMe]

Who has theatened her. Where is the evidence?

Haven't seen that either.

 

[loveamystery]

Do we know what is asked on the juror questionnaire? Wouldn't they, as a rule ask about relatives and crimes/convictions? If so, and she lied...can she be prosecuted?

If Juan really prosecuted her husband and she knew about it, she should have removed herself.

Years ago my uncle was excused as a juror because one of the lawyers in the case had represented my dad, his brother, 10 years before. The lawyer told him out of court that was definitely the right thing to do.

Maybe the AZ taxpayers can sue. #17 wasted all that court's time and money. Usually the judge asks the jurors almost daily if there is any reason they can or should not continue as a juror.

:maddening:​

 

[sammie]

If Juan really prosecuted her husband and she knew about it, she should have removed herself.

Years ago my uncle was excused as a juror because one of the lawyers in the case had represented my dad, his brother, 10 years before. The lawyer told him out of court that was definitely the right thing to do.

Maybe the AZ taxpayers can sue. #17 wasted all that court's time and money. Usually the judge asks the jurors almost daily if there is any reason they can or should not continue as a juror.

:maddening:​

I agree with you, she SHOULD have removed herself, but may have been a reason she wanted to get on the jury, to exact her own form of "revenge".

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Who has theatened her. Where is the evidence?

Haven't seen that either.

Have you guys seen this article .. http://www.fox10phoenix.com/story/2...m-the-arias-sentencing-receives-death-threats

 

[Amster]

Why didn't the judge, Sherry, remove her? Yes....I know.....trembling in fear of an appeal. :facepalm:

 

[Amster]

Have you guys seen this article .. http://www.fox10phoenix.com/story/2...m-the-arias-sentencing-receives-death-threats

Dr. Dennis Elias is a <mod snip>......other than that, threats from twitter? Maybe her adoring hubby should stay away from the media....

 

[Mrs G Norris]

I see where a lot of this 'research' into juror 17 has come from .. all I'm going to say on that is consider the source, this 'researcher' has been wrong before, and caused a lot of harm during this trial for a number of people.

 

[Val1]

Just catching up and this may have been discussed, from my take listening to the jury interview. She did not bring evidence regarding the movie, only her impression from the movie was that Jodi was a monster and then seeing her in court and listening to the evidence she changed her mind and decided that Jodi was mentally ill and was not able to deal with her relationship with Travis. In no way am I defending this Juror.

My heart goes out to Travis's family and friends. I pray that they will be able to move on.

Some of today's tweets regarding the hold out(start at the bottom..), apparently she had sent her own secret note! to the judge when the other jurors told her they wanted to request an alternate because she wouldn't deliberate(give them any single piece of evidence to back up her position), they even let her read what they were going to ask:

William Pitts &#8207;@william_pitts
jury says they were open about their request to replace holdout juror. Read their note in front of her. She wrote her own note. #JodiArias

Dave Erickson &#8207;@ericksonvision
When I was at #JodiArias jury selection, I saw a man dismissed because he admitted he saw the Lifetime movie.

Mike Watkiss &#8207;@mikewatkiss3tv
Female juror says holdout admitted in deliberation room that she had seen part of Lifetime movie #3tvarias #jodiarias

Dave Erickson &#8207;@ericksonvision
According to #jodiarias jury, the holdout watched the Lifetime movie and said the person in the court wasn't the monster portrayed in movie

Steve Krafft &#8207;@SKrafftFox10
Dissenting juror said she saw part of "Dirty Little Secret," the TV movie about #jodiarias

William Pitts &#8207;@william_pitts
They felt the holdout was biased because she had been exposed to other information and brought it into deliberationns. #JodiArias

Jen's Trial Diaries &#8207;@TrialDiariesJ
The jury wanted an alternate to replace this hold out that refused to deliberate #jodiarias #3tvarias

Mike Watkiss &#8207;@mikewatkiss3tv
Male juror angry that holdout said death penalty was "revenge" #jodiarias #3tvarias

Steve Krafft &#8207;@SKrafftFox10
Dissenting juror focused on #jodiarias journals and thought Arias had psychological problems.

Tammy Rose &#8207;@News20Chopper
Hold out did not want to look at autopsy photos. #JodiArias

Jen's Trial Diaries &#8207;@TrialDiariesJ
Hold out juror felt DP was revenge and she wouldn't budge right away #jodiarias #3tvarias

Cathy &#8207;@courtchatter
Juror #4 is speaking to his anger at the one hold out. He said the hold out thought it was a form of revenge. Juror #4 "That was hurtful"

Jeffrey Evan Gold &#8207;@jeffgoldesq
#jodiarias jurors are disturbed by sole hold out that seemed to be against the DP.

William Pitts &#8207;@william_pitts
"the fact that she said it like we were trying to get revenge was painful." -- #JodiArias

Wild About Trial 2 &#8207;@WildaboutTrial2
Juror had mind made up from the start and felt death penalty was a form of revenge #jodiarias

Tammy Rose &#8207;@News20Chopper
1 juror thinks the hold out thought death penalty would be a form of revenge. #JodiArias

Steve Krafft &#8207;@SKrafftFox10
Juror : holdout had her mind made up from beginning. She suggested death penalty was form of revenge. #jodiarias

Mike Watkiss &#8207;@mikewatkiss3tv
Male juror says one holdout had mind made up from beginning-#jodiarias #3tvarias

William Pitts &#8207;@william_pitts
"what angered me was that she (holdout juror) alluded that death penalty would be a form of revenge." #JodiArias

Jen's Trial Diaries &#8207;@TrialDiariesJ
This hold out wouldn't deliberate with us Juror 4 was very angry #JodiArias did not seem remorseful when she was on the stand

Mike Watkiss &#8207;@mikewatkiss3tv
We're angry that holdout did not deliberate #3tvarias #3tvarias

Wild About Trial 2 &#8207;@WildaboutTrial2
Angry bc they said they felt juror didn't participate #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries &#8207;@TrialDiariesJ
They feel the juror had an agenda and she wouldn't deliberate #jodiarias #3tvarias

Wild About Trial 2 &#8207;@WildaboutTrial2
"Difficult Juror wanted to focus on journal" #jodiarias

Tammy Rose &#8207;@News20Chopper
Jurors have not slept and are devastated. #JodiArias

William Pitts &#8207;@william_pitts
"we let this juror decide what was important to delve into" to undderstand her position. #JodiArias

Cathy &#8207;@courtchatter
Jurors did not specifically ask for alternate #2. Just wanted sitting juror off. #jodiarias

Wild About Trial 2 &#8207;@WildaboutTrial2
"We raised a concerned with the judge about potential biased" #jodiarias

Tammy Rose &#8207;@News20Chopper
Jurors did raise concern to judge. #JodiArias

William Pitts &#8207;@william_pitts
the jury felt this juror would not deliberate and was "very closed off". #JodiArias

Cathy &#8207;@courtchatter
The ONE was "closed off". #jodiarias

Tammy Rose &#8207;@News20Chopper
Everyone wanted to look at the evidence except for the person who was for life. #JodiArias

 

[Val1]

Dr. Dennis Elias is a <mod snip>......other than that, threats from twitter? Maybe her adoring hubby should stay away from the media....

Gee, I don't see them mention that ALL of the other jurors info was posted on JA's innocent site, except for this 17th "saviour".... where's the outrage about that?

 

[RR0004]

I was wondering...if someone is already convicted of murder by the State, can Federal charges for murder be filed? I know it may be overkill (sheesh, did I just type that???), but just thought- crossing state lines to commit a crime is a criminal (Federal) offense, isn't it? Would it have to be decided in the beginning how JA would have been charged? Was charging her at the Federal level ever considered? Just curious.

 

[Wagara]

No words yet...just marking my spot.

 

[FelicityLemon]

Since MDLR set up a three way call between JA and one of her supporters and at least one person from the JAII site was talked about on that call, I don't think it was a troll. MDLR appears to not know what the word professional means.

MOO

BBM

But but but...she dresses like a "pro"? :happydance:

Yes, it's juvenile of me.

 

[WhoaIsMe]

Have you guys seen this article .. http://www.fox10phoenix.com/story/2...m-the-arias-sentencing-receives-death-threats

I did read it and it comes down to the same as whoever it is that is posting documents about her ex on twitter. Just something posted on twitter. (Possibly? since they didn't show screenshots in the article of said threats)

That article was pretty one-sided considering what it offered in regards to the rest of the whole jury.."Their statements about this, that, or the other thing being the reason are nothing but their own imagination, because they don't know, they are very frustrated and I can understand that," said Elias.

Sorry, but they DO know what she did and said in that deliberation room. He is the one using his imagination.

and btw. I did finally see the other document that listed 17 and her ex named in a court case. If the documents are legit, he is her ex and JM sent him to prison. Guess it could be some other lady with the same name tho.