Ebola outbreak - general thread #3

[LinasK]

She probably lied about that or never updated it because one of her likes is Dallas Texas. Plus her daughter Mawhen Jallah is one of her friends and is listed as Dallas Texas.

JMO No good deed goes unpunished. JMO

It would have gone unpunished, if they'd been honest and worn hazmat suits or let medical personnel treat her.

 

[cady]

It seems the docs at the clinic would ask her to stick out her tongue and when there was no bite mark they would know it was ebola.

Now THERES a clinical diagnosis for ya! She was not admitted to a clinic. JMO

 

[Hiandmighty]

I started a new thread: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?258788-Ebola-Spanish-nurse-who-treated-Spanish-missionary-in-Spain-now-has-Ebola

A Spanish nurse who treated a Spanish missionary in Spain (he died) now has Ebola. They don't know how she got it since she was in a modern hospital with all the precautions.

She was on vacation when she developed fever, so now they have to track everyone who came in contact with her.

 

[SStarr33]

Now THERES a clinical diagnosis for ya! She was not admitted to a clinic. JMO

I didn't say she was admitted.

 

[LinasK]

Now THERES a clinical diagnosis for ya! She was not admitted to a clinic. JMO

Nor was she admitted to a hospital, she was taken to 3 different ones, and all refused. Most likely her tongue was examined and determined that she did NOT bite her tongue, nor did she have malaria or a miscarriage, but just another Ebola patient that they didn't have room for.

 

[Hiandmighty]

I started a new thread: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?258788-Ebola-Spanish-nurse-who-treated-Spanish-missionary-in-Spain-now-has-Ebola

A Spanish nurse who treated a Spanish missionary in Spain (he died) now has Ebola. They don't know how she got it since she was in a modern hospital with all the precautions.

She was on vacation when she developed fever, so now they have to track everyone who came in contact with her.

Can you imagine tracking everything she touched and the finding the people who touched that stuff too? Nightmare!!!

 

[SStarr33]

Can you imagine tracking everything she touched and the finding the people who touched that stuff too? Nightmare!!!

Major nightmare. It will be interesting to compare how they handle it to the way the US is handling it.

 

[SCHMAE]

Nor was she admitted to a hospital, she was taken to 3 different ones, and all refused. Most likely her tongue was examined and determined that she did NOT bite her tongue, nor did she have malaria or a miscarriage, but just another Ebola patient that they didn't have room for.

Oh , so your post just gave me a thought. Maybe they are becoming accustomed to lying about ebola because they know they will be turned away . So they say anything else, just hoping they can get their foot literally in the door to a medical facility. Say Ebola and they turn you away because there is no room or they are afraid of catching it. Say miscarriage, then you might slip through into a room where you can get treatment of some kind.
** Speculative**

 

[buckeye8]

I'm not sure what would be worse, developing symptoms while on vacation or while working at the hospital.

Can you imagine tracking everything she touched and the finding the people who touched that stuff too? Nightmare!!!

 

[passionflower]

The family of the woman, Marthalene Williams, 19, took her by taxi to a hospital with Mr. Duncan’s help after failing to get an ambulance. Ms. Williams was turned away for lack of space in the hospital’s Ebola treatment ward, the family said, and they took her back home in the evening, hours before she died.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/02/u...-those-who-had-contact-with-patient.html?_r=0

bbm

if everyone thought she was having complications from her pregnancy, they would of taken her to maternity or a midwife..............JMOO

 

[buckeye8]

What is the benefit to the family to avoid an investigation?

What I read is that the family got a death certificate and had her quickly buried before the health department could investigate the cause of her death. To me, that's criminal! It's not like in Judaism, which has quick burials for religious reasons.

 

[LinasK]

Girl (his niece I think)who was in ambulance with Duncan has been given clear to go back to work as a CNA. She was around him when he was puking all over the place.

I sure hope her nursing home has the good sense to make her take sick leave and not report back for a couple more weeks, otherwise she could be infecting a whole, very weak in general population.

 

[Lyra500]

Was there a link to the hospitals being full or was it their opinion?

Here is a link where staff at the maternity clinic confirm that they diagnosed low blood pressure, malaria and advised the family to take Marthalene to the hospital:

http://www.dailypress.com/health/la-fg-ebola-liberia-20141003,0,3662970.story?page=2

But the Blessing Home Clinic, which examined Marthalene on Sept. 15, had diagnosed malaria, according to staffers. When she started convulsing, they told the family to take her to a hospital.

And here are some links about the hospital/clinic being full.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ebola-outbreaks-long-winding-path-to-us-shores/

Marthalene Williams, seven months pregnant, had been diagnosed with low blood pressure when she was brought to a clinic, desperately ill.

Soon after coming home, she began convulsing. Thomas Eric Duncan, assisted by her family and others, lifted his neighbor into a taxi that rushed to a hospital maternity ward, where she was turned away. The 19-year-old woman returned to her house, where she died hours later.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/eb...c-duncan-fell-ill-after-helping-woman-n216221

Four days before he flew to Dallas to visit family members, cargo driver Thomas Eric Duncan helped his landlords take their 19-year-old daughter, Marthalene Williams, to a clinic that was so crowded with Ebola patients that it turned her away, The New York Times reported. The family, which had tried and failed to get an ambulance, took the convulsing woman back home, where she died hours later.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/ebola-up-100-people-sought-4368270

Duncan, who is in his 40s, had helped take pregnant Marthalene Williams, 19, to a hospital by taxi in Liberia after she failed to get an ambulance, her parents, Emmanuel and Amie Williams said.

She was convulsing and seven months pregnant, they said.

However once at the hospital she was turned away due to lack of space and died at home three days later.

 

[LinasK]

What is the benefit to the family to avoid an investigation?

So they won't be prosecuted for lying about Ebola and avoid the stigma. Then they can just keep telling everyone it was just a miscarriage/malaria.

 

[Lyra500]

It was just their opinion. Give me a few minutes, and I'll find the post.

Please see my post above

 

[faw720]

Dallas local NBC news is reporting on 4 pm news that Duncan is in critical but stable condition. Does this mean that his condition has not worsened? I hope that is the case.

 

[Detective Klimpt]

I sure hope her nursing home has the good sense to make her take sick leave and not report back for a couple more weeks, otherwise she could be infecting a whole, very weak in general population.

It's the 'step-daughter' Youngor. How can she call herself any relative to Duncan? Don't get it.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...given-clear-return-work-nursing-assitant.html

 

[LinasK]

It's the 'step-daughter' Youngor. How can she call herself any relative to Duncan? Don't get it.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...given-clear-return-work-nursing-assitant.html

She's not a blood relative. She's Louise's daughter from another relationship, but I guess she views Duncan as a step-father.
Youngor and Aaron are the only ones in the this family who seem to have any sense. They are the ones for whom I will save my compassion.

 

[WichitaFalls]

Sometimes the Thanks button isn't enough. I like the way you think.

Here is a link where staff at the maternity clinic confirm that they diagnosed low blood pressure, malaria and advised the family to take Marthalene to the hospital:

http://www.dailypress.com/health/la-fg-ebola-liberia-20141003,0,3662970.story?page=2




And here are some links about the hospital/clinic being full.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ebola-outbreaks-long-winding-path-to-us-shores/



http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/eb...c-duncan-fell-ill-after-helping-woman-n216221



http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/ebola-up-100-people-sought-4368270

 

[LinasK]

Dallas local NBC news is reporting on 4 pm news that Duncan is in critical but stable condition. Does this mean that his condition has not worsened? I hope that is the case.

There's rumors that they started giving him an experimental drug, but if he's got kidney failure and on a vent, he's not in good condition.