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President of American Nurses Association saying in effect that nurses should continue to be submissive and managers should sit with them and hear their concerns. But, nurses should continue to provide care. The ANA has always been biased toward the management side of issues. They do absolutely nothing for nurses on the front line. I have never been a member of that group and never will.
I feel bad for her. Can't help but to feel bad.
Wow. The move of Nina Pham speaks volumes. In no way is Presby capable of taking care of Ebola patients. It pains me to admit it but the truth is the truth.
A few dates to keep in mind.
Thomas Duncan was apparently infected when he helped a neighbor on September 15. Nine days later on September 24 he started showing symptoms of the Ebola and was admitted to the hospital on September 28. The first symptoms of Ebola show up between 2 and 21 days from infection, but most typically around 8 to 10 days. The window for patients exposed when Duncan was outside the hospital will expire on October 19, but we are past the typical time for symptoms to appear. Duncan died on October 8, the window for health care staff infected during Duncan's treatment will close on October 29. The time after infection when patients start to show symptoms follows a bell curve. The good news is that it gets less likely every day that we will find another civilian infected by Duncan before he was isolated.
Nina Pham was placed in isolation on October 10. She was directly involved in Duncan's care, but we don't know for certain exactly when she was infected. On October 31, the window for civilians exposed before she was isolated will close.
Amber Vinson was placed in isolation on October 14. She was also directly involved in treating Duncan. The window for civilians exposed before she was isolated will close on November 4. Amber was transferred to Emory in Atlanta on October 15, her case no longer poses a risk to workers at the Texas hospital.
There are reports that infection control measures used at Texas Health Presbyterian were lax. Two infected health care workers are the result. So far there is no indication that Ebola has spread beyond health care workers directly involved in treating Duncan. This makes sense if you understand the progression of the disease. There is less risk being around a patient in the early stages of the disease. Health care workers in Texas who are treating Nina Pham are still at risk. In hindsight, it would have been better to send her to Emory. But at this point, she is probably too fragile to survive the trip.
If additional cases are discovered, they should be sent to a hospital with special facilities like Emory.
Absolutely not. I would be afraid that if I didn't already have it, they would give it to me through their incompetence. I would self-isolate and self-monitor. I absolutely would not go out in public nor expose myself to anyone else for the duration of the incubation period, but I would not put my trust in the so-called experts nor place my life in their hands. So far, they have not done anything to justify a belief that they would deal with the situation safely.
Pham is going to NIH
What is NIH stand for? Is that the same place as "Emory" or one of the other 4 centers?
what does that mean?
Hypothetical Question for the posters here:
Let's imagine this situation gets out of hand and outbreaks DO occur in various areas. Imagine the authorities send out a bulletin saying there was possible exposure to ebola at an event in your community, an event YOU attended (movie theater, car show, you paid cash and are untraceable) and they ask that EVERYONE that attended identify themselves so that those folks could be put in gov run isolation for "your own safety".
Would you identify yourself? Or would you wait and see if you showed symptoms? Would you TRUST the authorities at this point?
Keep in mind their entire critical care staff is likely still in isolation/quarantine