Federal Indictment: James Burke, Former Suffolk Co PD Chief, December 2015

[Ray_of_hope]

Probably, "That damn f#$%^&*@ Pete!"

:silly: :goodpost: Need a little levity here, things are so awful!

 

[DQN]

I don't think its THE James Burke.

Possibly but I could not find any James Borsic's (Policeman) IN SC. Maybe Hawkshaw would know if there is another James Burke a/k/a James Borsic.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Possibly but I could not find any James Borsic's (Policeman) IN SC

I found him (and family) living in Nassau.

BUT I definitely think its interesting.

 

[DQN]

I found him (and family) living in Nassau.

BUT I definitely think its interesting.

Is there an age? is it Massapequa?

 

[Momoffourboys]

Is there an age? is it Massapequa?

50. Not massapequa.

 

[DQN]

50. Not massapequa.

OKay thank you. James Borsic aka James Burke ruled out.

 

[joesmith97]

Context As someone geographically removed from this whole saga I've been carefully reading this thread. I realized I needed more perspective and my jaw dropped. The population of Suffolk County alone is only 160,000 less than the population of my whole state, more than Montana and double Wyoming!!! Maybe this was already obvious to everyone but the reach of this corruption is HUGE. Perhaps this perspective is useful for others outside the area.

I'm curious if this thread is another egregious example of a miscarriage of justice or if there is a direct connection to LISK theories on here?

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?178724-NY-Peter-Ghattas-35-Ronkonkoma-24-Sept-2003

Letter mentioned: http://www.newsday.com/opinion/letters/letter-all-out-effort-for-shannan-1.3473520

Very interesting thread you mention. The police official described sure does sound like Suffolk's James Burke. Burke was a high ranking police official (what his exact title was during any given time, I could not tell you, however, he has been higher ranking in the last 10-15 years, at least). Also, Burke lived in St. James.

 

[Sherlockknows]

I was writing the other day about a possible connection between Burke and Spota in his youth, however I wasn't really referring to crime but more covering up for when older.


I think there is a connection between both men, maybe something not so obvious.


Does anyone know of the family connections. Is there an Irish connection, a marriage something which may link them. What are the family trees of both men are their any political family members?


There is a family feeling amongst most police. When someone joins a force going against this force is considered a no no. The chances of you finding a Serpico here are slim but if you found a few of them you'll probably get the background to a lot of stuff mostly petty though.

 

[joesmith97]

I was writing the other day about a possible connection between Burke and Spota in his youth, however I wasn't really referring to crime but more covering up for when older.


I think there is a connection between both men, maybe something not so obvious.


Does anyone know of the family connections. Is there an Irish connection, a marriage something which may link them. What are the family trees of both men are their any political family members?


There is a family feeling amongst most police. When someone joins a force going against this force is considered a no no. The chances of you finding a Serpico here are slim but if you found a few of them you'll probably get the background to a lot of stuff mostly petty though.

The connection between Spota and Burke from Burke's youth is that Spota was the DA of Suffolk County who took on the John Pius murder case that Burke was involved in (and I say "involved" because exactly how he was involved in the case is still questionable. If you look at some of the posts regarding the case, there seems to be conflicting opinions as to what happened.) That's where they both first "met," and Spota liked Burke so much that 20+ years later when they both moved up their respective ladders, Spota recommended Burke to be Chief of Police and his recommendation was granted.

 

[Ray_of_hope]

Very interesting thread you mention. The police official described sure does sound like Suffolk's James Burke. Burke was a high ranking police official (what his exact title was during any given time, I could not tell you, however, he has been higher ranking in the last 10-15 years, at least). Also, Burke lived in St. James.

Read through posts on this page. Burke and Carrecia were neighbors. http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?134804-Possible-Victim-Shannan-Gilbert/page35

 

[Al Ka]

I'm curious if this thread is another egregious example of a miscarriage of justice or if there is a direct connection to LISK theories on here?

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?178724-NY-Peter-Ghattas-35-Ronkonkoma-24-Sept-2003

Letter mentioned: http://www.newsday.com/opinion/letters/letter-all-out-effort-for-shannan-1.3473520

Peter Ghattas case in your link was mentioned on this thread few times by Hawk. Another of many cases of SC, Spota and J.Burke where information were leaked on purpose due to pursuit of their own agendas and yes, egregious example of a miscarriage of justice.

Direct connection between Ghattas and Lisk case is the same highly corrupt SC leaders and environment where not only they are not hesitating to use their power to manipulate the outcomes to their advantage but also not stopping when jeopardizing life of their witnesses (Ghattas case; escort Leanne's case where her tip to LE was leaked to the person she was accusing).

Point is, would you trust investigation and outcomes of many cases (including LISK) under the "care" of SC?


from 1985 - judge about Spota

In two consecutive highly publicized murder trials, I have witnessed, among other things, such apparent prosecutorial misconduct as perjury, subornation of perjury, intimidation of witnesses, spoliation of evidence, abuse of subpoena power and the aforesaid attempts to intimidate a sitting judge.
Judge Stuart Namm

the same article under "The Troubled Division"

Catterson charged that Spota had been part of a “good old boys” network in the district attorney’s office that looked the other way when police committed perjury or coerced confessions in homicide cases. Catterson cited the SIC report and said Spota had been implicated in it.

Under a section titled “Overreliance on Confessions,” the SIC report noted that a 1986 Newsday investigation covering the previous decade found that “94 percent of Suffolk homicide prosecutions involved confessions or oral admissions”

The SIC report also cited a 1979 investigation by The National Law Review that “contained allegations of widespread use of force by members of the Suffolk County Police Department Homicide Division in order to coerce confessions in murder cases.”

The Pius Murder

In the most direct tie to Spota’s handling of homicide prosecutions, the SIC included a section on "The Pius Cases," stemming from the April 1979 murder of 13-year old John Pius. It is arguably Spota’s most famous case.

As bureau chief, Spota had oversight over all the cases, but he personally prosecuted and won convictions against Peter and Michael Quartararo, two of the four teenage boys charged with killing Pius.

http://data.newsday.com/long-island/politics/ray-perini-tom-spota/ (scroll on the same page for more articles)

 

[Ray_of_hope]

El Ka, have you read Judge Namm's book "A Whistleblower's Lament: The Perverted Pursuit of Justice in the State of New York"?

 

[LR1]

The issue here is not whether the SCPD is corrupt. I think even the most pro-LE types like myself can agree from Spota down, Suffolk needs to be disinfected. (I do believe Sini is doing the right thing.)

The problem I have is some folks making the leap that while Burke interfered with the LISK case - no argument there! - that he is somehow tied to serial killing himself. That is a breathtaking leap of logic that is unwarranted. And dragging Dr. Hapless into it just goes further to undermine the credibility of the theorizing.

There you go making sense again. I think the whole thing is unsalvageable at this point but every so often a voice of reason will give me hope. Thanks R.A. for expressing it the way you did, if I tried that I'd be put in the corner for a few days.

 

[dexter75]

There you go making sense again. I think the whole thing is unsalvageable at this point but every so often a voice of reason will give me hope. Thanks R.A. for expressing it the way you did, if I tried that I'd be put in the corner for a few days.

Same😉

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[Notorious]

BESSIE, if all we had were FACTS we wouldn't need WS or you. You still don't get it. Rumors do many things: they die a natural death or they become FACTS, are two of those places rumors wind up.

The issue here is not whether the SCPD is corrupt. I think even the most pro-LE types like myself can agree from Spota down, Suffolk needs to be disinfected. (I do believe Sini is doing the right thing.)

The problem I have is some folks making the leap that while Burke interfered with the LISK case - no argument there! - that he is somehow tied to serial killing himself. That is a breathtaking leap of logic that is unwarranted. And dragging Dr. Hapless into it just goes further to undermine the credibility of the theorizing.

But by interfering and covering up he DID tie himself in with the serial killings. Can I ask what reasons you might think he would cover up for if he wasn't involved?

Since I'm completely lost on this thread now maybe I can answer this. To keep the FBI as far away from his office as possible so whatever illegal business he was doing wasn't discovered. At least that's what some people speculate.

 

[hawkshaw]

NOTORIOUS - So you got it - keep anyone not with the program away.

 

[hawkshaw]

You would be correct when saying SCPD would not want the FBI poking around with anything. Truth is they don’t want any ‘unfriendly’ poking around in their affairs.
Just learned that when the LOEB case broke IAB was told to Stand Down! What else do you need to know?
Now let me take you through this again:
On 11/1303, Burke’s neighbor made some very serious charges against my former son in law who was then an active police officer in SCPD. The neighbor said the SIL helped him do an armed robbery of a Strathmore Bagel store on 7/25/00 where a gun was placed in the store owner’s mouth. The SCPD/DA must have taken it seriously because they put this informant in area hotels and motels for almost one year.
As most of you folks know by now the neighbor offered several of other felonies to their list of lies.
So what happened to the son in law – did they report this to IA? Did they relieve him of his weapons, pending the outcome of the investigation? What did they do? NOTHING!!! They didn’t even bother to tell IA. I know that because I had his file and there is NOTHING in his file that remotely suggests IA was informed of these most serious charges. He would retire with a disability pension on3/15/05, be given a pistol license to retain his weapons, and would receive a ‘good guy’ letter from an IDIOT posing as a police commissioner. It is the same IDIOT that said Shannon probably drowned when the ME had not made a determination.
BOTTOM LINE: They don’t want anyone else around and poking around when they are hatching their nefarious plots. If they don’t want IA poking around they certainly don’t want the FBI anywhere near them. Do you think SINI is really going to make a difference?

 

[The Nomad]

do you think sini is really going to make a difference?

bingo!!

 

[DQN]

Hawkshaw lets hope if Sini can't make a difference the FBI will!

 

[GINK]

Anyone know how to contact fbi working on lisk?