MsFacetious
What a Kerfuffle...
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Wow. That would definitely screw up a kid.
See the comment in Sun/Sentinel article posted by Peculiar on previous page where it mentions the agreement
between Broward Co. schools and Broward Co. LE to "not" arrest students in order to keep safety statistics looking
favorable for school ratings. Another 'dropped the ball' example. NC obviously could have been arrested and probably
charged with a felony for assault/fighting.
This is what I guessed happened, over and over. He was given a slap on the hands and allowed to go on.
With his serious ongoing emotional problems, I'm not sure an arrest would have changed anything, really.
NC was like a wild animal allowed to roam free with little oversight.
I still pity him and am sad at the horrible life he had to have had, trapped in his emotional prison.
Great in-depth article about the life of Nikolas Cruz.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/b...hooting-nikolas-cruz-life-20180220-story.html
I think, to a lot of people who don't own guns, weren't raised around them, and have little first hand knowledge about them, guns are big scary weapons of destruction, often used to kill people.
To those more comfortable and familiar with guns, they are tools. Used to protect yourself, your family, livestock, personal property, as well as hunting and recreation.Responsible gun owners would not think of using their guns to murder people, any more than those of us who own butcher knives, or chainsaws would think of using those tools to kill people.
It seems to me that both sides of the equation, are so entrenched in their passionate opinions, that reasonable compromises are unable to be reached.
It's like both sides shout each other down, and the kids are caught in the crossfire.
My daughter is a seventh grade student. Right now, in the current social climate, I don't give a good GD about 2nd amendment rights. I want my child to survive her school day.
IMO there are several reasons why these 17 lives were lost, and the number one reason on my list would be complacency. "Not here, not in our school community" We have *programs* We don't arrest! We redirect!
Nikolas cruz shouted from the rooftops, that he was going to shoot up his school. He announced his intent, he published photo evidence of his capability on SM, he was reported, again, and again and again, and still... complacency reigned supreme.
Last year, there was several Bomb threats called into my child's school. ( A man was eventually arrested for calling hundreds of bomb threats into schools across MA.). on those days, I would receive an automated message that there was a threat, and that the school had been swept from top bottom and cleared. I would find it totally unacceptable, if school officials had received the information that MSD school had about NC and not alerted parents, and informed them of steps that were being taken, if any, to safeguard the students from this threat.
There were failures on every level, that allowed this tragic loss of life. Would it really be too much to to ask of the gun proponents to allow some restrictions to the availability of assault weapons? I would beg of you, as a mom to a wonderful, beautiful young woman, whom is dearly loved, to please consider that not everyone who enjoys our constitutional right to own weapons is responsible enough to do so.
While I appreciate our constitutional rights greatly, and I don't want them infringed apon in the slightest, I would say that NC was a mass murderer in the making and a plethora of people knew it. If he had not had access to they type of weapon he had, OR something had been done to prevent his freely moving about in society, this tragic loss of life could have been prevented.
IMO both of these measures are necessary NOW.
So... This is my plea, as a parent, not a democrats stricken with malignant altruism, don't make it easy to get an assault rifles. Have mercy.
Interesting that this article claims that he was adopted as a newborn. So there wasn't a 2 year delay during which he missed a "crucial bonding' window. Also, birth mother passed a drug test, so presumably she wasn't a drug addict.
(story updated today, apologies if it's already been posted and I missed it.)
Broward Sheriff’s Office investigates allegations that multiple deputies stayed outside during the Parkland massacre
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ter-parkland-massacre/?utm_term=.25dba8e636b0
I think, to a lot of people who don't own guns, weren't raised around them, and have little first hand knowledge about them, guns are big scary weapons of destruction, often used to kill people.
To those more comfortable and familiar with guns, they are tools. Used to protect yourself, your family, livestock, personal property, as well as hunting and recreation.Responsible gun owners would not think of using their guns to murder people, any more than those of us who own butcher knives, or chainsaws would think of using those tools to kill people.
It seems to me that both sides of the equation, are so entrenched in their passionate opinions, that reasonable compromises are unable to be reached.
It's like both sides shout each other down, and the kids are caught in the crossfire.
My daughter is a seventh grade student. Right now, in the current social climate, I don't give a good GD about 2nd amendment rights. I want my child to survive her school day.
IMO there are several reasons why these 17 lives were lost, and the number one reason on my list would be complacency. "Not here, not in our school community" We have *programs* We don't arrest! We redirect!
Nikolas cruz shouted from the rooftops, that he was going to shoot up his school. He announced his intent, he published photo evidence of his capability on SM, he was reported, again, and again and again, and still... complacency reigned supreme.
Last year, there was several Bomb threats called into my child's school. ( A man was eventually arrested for calling hundreds of bomb threats into schools across MA.). on those days, I would receive an automated message that there was a threat, and that the school had been swept from top bottom and cleared. I would find it totally unacceptable, if school officials had received the information that MSD school had about NC and not alerted parents, and informed them of steps that were being taken, if any, to safeguard the students from this threat.
There were failures on every level, that allowed this tragic loss of life. Would it really be too much to to ask of the gun proponents to allow some restrictions to the availability of assault weapons? I would beg of you, as a mom to a wonderful, beautiful young woman, whom is dearly loved, to please consider that not everyone who enjoys our constitutional right to own weapons is responsible enough to do so.
While I appreciate our constitutional rights greatly, and I don't want them infringed apon in the slightest, I would say that NC was a mass murderer in the making and a plethora of people knew it. If he had not had access to they type of weapon he had, OR something had been done to prevent his freely moving about in society, this tragic loss of life could have been prevented.
IMO both of these measures are necessary NOW.
So... This is my plea, as a parent, not a democrats stricken with malignant altruism, don't make it easy to get an assault rifles. Have mercy.
Something else to consider about NC: We don't know how long he had most likely been OFF his drugs for ADHD
or any of his other problems. We know he told one counselor he didn't like to take medications, so maybe he's
been off his meds for months or longer. Wonder if we will ever know what he had taken?
This article reflects how it was reported in a 911 call to the county sheriff's office.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...s-910pm:homepage/story&utm_term=.4b37a9e946cf
I personally would be afraid of him. Another reason he shouldn't have been allowed back in class. His behavior was destructive, violent and disruptive. Not condusive to a learning environment. It's still a school not a prision. Other teens should n't be forced to live in fear to attend classes.
I asked this a while back also. Was he working at Dollar Store for the past year? Maybe his mom had run out of schools that would take him. After all the troubles he had in schools, maybe word got out and she ran out of options.
....which is why I believe he should have been in special ed. school w/ teachers trained to deal with his problems.
I think Broward Co. special ed. (Cross Creek) takes them up til age 22.
Had an old friend who taught Special Ed. and NC's behaviors were pretty normal for what she dealt with on a daily
basis. She had rules and regulations on how to deal with them when they had meltdowns.
From above, well stated, Safeguard, moo:
"I think, to a lot of people who don't own guns, weren't raised around them, and have little first hand knowledge about them, guns are big scary weapons of destruction, often used to kill people.
To those more comfortable and familiar with guns, they are tools. Used to protect yourself, your family, livestock, personal property, as well as hunting and recreation.Responsible gun owners would not think of using their guns to murder people, any more than those of us who own butcher knives, or chainsaws would think of using those tools to kill people.
It seems to me that both sides of the equation, are so entrenched in their passionate opinions, that reasonable compromises are unable to be reached."
As far as I can tell, no one called LE about this. The actual victims.
I think this explains quite well the rights a special needs student has that is violent
http://www.wrightslaw.com/info/discipl.suspend.crabtree.htm