FL 17 yo Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #11

[songline]

Taaffee states that his friend, George Zimmerman, was being pummeled by a very physically fit young man. It was him screaming. He was not fit at all.

GZ was definitly as fit as an athleat. and TM was 6"3" that is a tall boy at least one head more then GZ.

 

[i.b.nora]

I really wonder who "leaked" the video? It had to be someone in the SPD?

It was talked about earlier today, the Mayor apparently told the police to release it.

 

[Adrienne37]

GZ also does not look like pudgy 250lbs but a lot less and muscular. Where did that 250 lbs come from anyway .SPD?

I believe the original 250 pounds that we were told came from one of the 2005 arrest reports, if I'm not mistaken.

He had definitely slimmed up but Trayvon was very tall and lanky, 6 feet 3 and 140-150 pounds is pretty skinny.


~jmo~

 

[rotterdam]

Not to mention the fact that Zimmerman's brother stated that he was barely conscious.


~jmo~

But conscious enough to fire a single well aimed fatal shot.

 

[suzihawk]

and I have been slammed into a sidewalk by my abuser I bled profusely for hours I still have the crack in my skull my head looked like basketball and I was hospitalized. I hit once and I was too weak to move at all a passerby saved me

I'm so sorry you've been subjected to that, rb.

I shudder when I read "my" abuser (as in possesive) and pray you're no longer in that situation. Hugs.

 

[songline]

I agree. If Zimmerman was the one screaming it's because he was trying to set up his alibi.



~jmo~

:what:
how can anyone think that far ahead during a tauma? :what:

WOW...

 

[indicat]

What is he saying? Please and thank-you. Is Nancy ready to jump through the screen?

Not Nancy tonight but Jean Casarus (sp?) Shes going easy

 

[TonyGatto]

GZ's friend Frank T. on Nancy Grace guess he didnt get the memo GZ's lawyer said RZ's statements were not true....LOL IMHO

Do you have a link for he lawyer's comments? I heard that he said George and his brother haven't seen each other in years and were not on good terms.

 

[i.b.nora]

GZ was definitly as fit as an athleat. and TM was 6"3" that is a tall boy at least one head more then GZ.

So, are you saying that George Zimmerman's head is only 6 inches tall? That would be 'one head'.

 

[Doop]

If I get out my car and chase someone with a handgun where I live, Im looking at many many years in jail. But not only are you allowed to do this Florida, apparently you are also allowed to kill them too.

 

[Isabelle]

I really wonder who "leaked" the video? It had to be someone in the SPD?

I thought it was released per the Mayor's instructions??

 

[OneLove]

Originally Posted by m00c0w<br />
And then you could potentially go to jail for assault with a deadly weapon, because you obviously didn't fear for your life enough to escalate to deadly force. Otherwise you would have shot him. JMO

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When I said earlier that I have heard discussions about how to bolster a self-defense claim, this is the type of concern people have. They could even get sued by the criminal if they don't make sure to kill him, they say. The logic is, don't take a chance of being charged with assault or being sued. You're better off to kill him and say it was self-defense. Stage the scene, if necessary.

Bringing this post over from previous thread. Etilema responded to m00c0w's post.

This brought back memories that are relevant here. I'm betting MANY owners of concealed carry permits will identify.

My husband I never owned a gun, never wanted to. We were actually pro gun control. Then a mentally ill person attempted to murder him. When that failed, the person hired (or said she did) a professional hit on his life. The first thing our local LE did was convince us to become licensed to carry concealed. I cried when they set a gun on the table in front of me and I puked at target practice before I could squeeze the trigger. (over it now)

Anyway, the teacher of our required certification classes was a high ranking military officer who had trained special forces. He told us in very clear and precise words that IF we ever had to shoot, to be sure to kill not injure, and IF we did, to claim after the fact that the person clearly stated threats to our lives. It left me feeling gutted, sad, and disillusioned.

Anyway, the late-coming claims by GZ's relative's second hand account of the event that Trayvon uttered specific words that GZ was going to die that night certainly reminded me of our "handgun training". I just don't buy it.

 

[CHICANA]

Sorry did you mean to quote me? I'm not sure what your sons or GZs voice tone has to do with calling someone a racial slur?

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No, sorry. I meant to respond to the post above yours by dunlurken. That's what happens when I try to be sneaky and get on WS when I'm supposed to be working !

 

[Beyond Belief]

Why would gz scream help to the guy standing looking out his window if he was screaming for an alibi. No help came.

 

[Adrienne37]

I keep hearing them say that the reason Zimmerman was not arrested was because he invoked the self-defense claim but I was reading earlier today about this lady in Tallahassee who shot and killed someone who came to her home where she felt threatened and she was arrested and kept in jail until the case came to trial, since 2008. The judge released her today during her trial as he stated that she was covered under the stand your ground law. So there is no reason whatsoever that Zimmerman was not arrested and held until such time it was proven in a court of law that he was innocent or guilty.

Link to article....
http://www.wctv.tv/home/headlines/80750267.html


~jmo~

 

[whiteangora]

I have only read a tiny portion of the posts on Trayvon but I just watched this
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...-martin-case-zimmerman-had-run-in-with-police
and found it very telling. GZ was ordered to anger management classes and despite the glowing reports from his relatives, he was violent.
If y'all have already seen this, sorry for the duplicate.

 

[Isabelle]

Off topic---but was Travon's autopsy done by a ME or a coroner? Was it done in Orlando???? Just been thinking that TM's parents should find out the answers to these questions because if the post was not done in depth some questions that they have might not be answered. Might it be necssary to exhume TM and have a second independent post done----? Dr G???????
Just thought I'd throw this out there to give us another topic to get crqzy over. And, I really expect the post to give us some answers.

Not sure where autopsy was done, but do know per reports the results have been sealed and will not be released, until a decision has been made by current prosecutors. I wondered earlier if the parents were given the information? If he were my child, you have to lock me up and drug me if you didn't give me the information NOW! It took six weeks to get my son's autopsy, but I understand that is a normal length of time.

 

[raeann]

Someone from WS googled his name and found a couple of judges in FL that matched but we never got any verification that it was indeed THE Robert Zimmerman, it's a very common name. HTH
All I know for sure is that he was a magistrate in Virginia and now retired.

It was probably me that talked about googling that....all I can say is that he was listed on a Florida legal site as an Orange County magistrate at an address in a city two miles from Sanford or so....the same city media has stated that they live in now. Other than that I don't think too much sleuthing of the family is in order at this point so I did not put any links on WS at all.

jmo

 

[Inabsentia]

I think this whole worked as bouncer/private security thing is very interesting. As Lolamoon pointed out, bouncers should have some fighting skills. My bff is a professional bouncer, has been for ten years. He, as a bouncer, is supposed to have some fighting skills, yes. But even more importantly, in his role as a bouncer he needs to have skills in de-escalating volatile situations. He needs to be able to defuse and disperse. If someone else gets violent he is trained to remove them from the situation while inflicting as little damage on them as possible. He is good at his job, and he can pin, hold, or restrain raging, aggressive people of all sizes almost always without injuring them or getting injured. In literally dozens of fights and altercations of all types he has never been seriously injured. Where were George Zimmerman's skills as a former bouncer/security that fateful night.

 

[Isabelle]

I keep hearing them say that the reason Zimmerman was not arrested was because he invoked the self-defense claim but I was reading earlier today about this lady in Tallahassee who shot and killed someone who came to her home where she felt threatened and she was arrested and kept in jail until the case came to trial, since 2008. The judge released her today during her trial as he stated that she was covered under the stand your ground law. So there is no reason whatsoever that Zimmerman was not arrested and held until such time it was proven in a court of law that he was innocent or guilty.

Link to article....
http://www.wctv.tv/home/headlines/80750267.html


~jmo~

Interesting that a "Judge" made the decision on her immunity. No judge has been involved in Trayvon's case!