GUILTY FL - Abraham Shakespeare, 42, lottery winner, Polk County, 7 April 2009 #4

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This is where they are in the process of changing their identities again.

Type: (J) JUDGMENT
Modified Date:
Record Date : 3/18/2004 10:50:01 AM
Event Date : 3/18/2004
From Party: BAILEY, DEBORAH JAYNE ()

To Party: LEWIS, JAMES A ()

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Chili Fries said:
Are you saying they are talking in code on that forum? It looks literal to me. mgoldschmidt is looking for somebody who can trap wild hogs which are a nuisance. I seriously doubt the moderator is Dee, it's somebody who is very into duck hunting and frog gigging and stuff like that.
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mgoldschmidt is Matt Goldschmidt

http://www.mattgoldschmidt.com/

He's definitely a hog trapper, among other things. Looks to be on the up and up to me.
 
To be totally frank, I'm posting for LE; they understand what this is.

Here they are showing the property. A mortgage broker is Sadhana Ganapathiraju.

http://www.duckhuntingchat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=65728&start=0

The wife.....
by mgoldschmidt » Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:12 pm

the wife of 17 yrs. is with me in the morning
after me being gone more than 40 some odd mornings this season...
she's wanting to see what the obsession is all about

She went with me a few years back
and now

good times.
well see what happens in the
boat before sunrise
 
Cedric Lewis has an LLC called CIRDEC Consulting and it looks like he's tried to do at least one social media website (message board w/ membership) that didn't get developed... I found the remains in google cache. IIRC his handle was CirdecExperience. (Cirdec is Cedric spelled backwards, lol)

Also of interest, and I apologize if all this info has already been posted and I overlooked it, Cedric is the CFO of a company called GreenStart, Inc.

If you go here you'll see parts of the SEC filings (stock has been issued)... there are 3 links on this page. Interesting reading.

http://www.greenstartenergy.com/ is the company website.
 
This is one of the properties. They put it on the internet using these code words.

Pest Control Contractors in Sanford, FL Paradigm Pest Management, Inc. 130 Hazel Blvd Sanford, FL 32773 407-754-3714. Comment. Middleton Lawn & Pest Control 1200 Providence Blvd Deltona,

This could be why A & J Lawn Service was started in Abraham's name. You will find an LLC for all the names they use.

The DiSalvo's use Peace of Mind Cleaning Services Inc and have a facebook page where they post when they are in need of help. They are telling people they have property.
 
Is anyone else as confused as I am? And yes, I have read all the posts.
 
blue mermaid said:
Cedric Lewis has an LLC called CIRDEC Consulting and it looks like he's tried to do at least one social media website (message board w/ membership) that didn't get developed... I found the remains in google cache. IIRC his handle was CirdecExperience. (Cirdec is Cedric spelled backwards, lol)

Also of interest, and I apologize if all this info has already been posted and I overlooked it, Cedric is the CFO of a company called GreenStart, Inc.

If you go here you'll see parts of the SEC filings (stock has been issued)... there are 3 links on this page. Interesting reading.

http://www.greenstartenergy.com/ is the company website.
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Very interesting reading.

IMO I think GreenStart is a shell company or wants to work closely with GoGreenStrategies. It's a new company totally government funded and headed up by a pal of Stitzel's who was also appointed by Jeb Bush for a committee. Every community wants a piece of this money so Cedric is Winter Haven's golden boy. I wonder if Stitzel helped him get this position.

Or Cedric may be helping GreenStart with international investors. These companies are still about land development with consulting.
 
Chili Fries said:
There is no way those two are the same person. Barnhill has a very distinctive nose that points downward at the end. That alone is very strong evidence they are different people. In addition, Barnhill appears to have blue eyes while Stitzel appears to have brown eyes.
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I thought of that, at first too, but check this out...

If Stitzel turns his head the same direction as Barnhill, smiles bigger (like Barnhill), and sits up straighter... Stitzel's nose would look different. Posture and facial expressions/smile can actually accentuate the nose. Look in your mirror and try it... I did, and it's interesting.

As for eyes... I'm still debating that too. I've got the pictures on a separate photo program... where I can adjust the picture sizes, brightness, contrast, zero in on parts of the pictures etc. Working with the eyes on both of Stitzel's pictures has only showed them as brown. Working with Barnhill's picture leaves room for question. There's something that makes me think the color (blue) has been done on purpose... as in contacts. Contacts can be easily obtained, and made only for color with or without vision strength. Then the glasses "could be" on purpose to help conceal his actual identity.

From what I can see of the person, in each picture, I think their body build is the same too. Only reason Barnhill has more neck, is because of his posture.

I still get the feeling that the Barnhill picture was staged... planned in advance... with concealing and false identity being the sole purpose.

I feel that I have strong evidence, to the contrary of yours! Thanks for bringing those points up, so I could look at them more. :yes:

"I didn't know there was such dirty, evil people on this earth, but I really know now," Abraham's mother said. "I'm so hurt.
I've been praying about it. God is the only one who can bring out the truth and give me strength." :prayer:
 
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http://www.duckhuntingchat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=100453&start=0

When you google the phone number, you find these entries on Plant City/Lutz business websites with the property address buried in the listing.

Local Amusement and Theme Parks covering Lakeland, FL(863) 858-3338. Plant City Walk In Bingo, 206 W Alexander St, Plant City, FL 33563 (813) 759-1230. Polk County Aces, 202 E Park St, Auburndale, FL 33823

Aug 7, 2009 ... GECKERS MOTORSPORTS, 863-858-3338. 5235 DEESON ROAD LAKELAND, FL 33810.

(863) 858-3338. Business Types: Amusement Parks. Intimate Encounters Lakeland, FL 33801. Phone: (863) 683-6676. Business Types: Adult EntertainmentAmusement Places in Plant City, FL -

AOL Local Yellow Pages{"lat":"28.014649","lon":"-82.14513","cb":false,"photo":""}. Gecker Motorsports Products863-858-3338 | Official Website. 5235 Deeson Rd, Lakeland, FL

Gecker Motorsports Products at 1933 Pioneer Dr, Lakeland, Florida 8638583338. Information, map, driving directions.

Health Clubs And Spas. Gold's Gym, 863-683-1900.
 
lbminnesota said:
Very interesting reading.

IMO I think GreenStart is a shell company or wants to work closely with GoGreenStrategies. It's a new company totally government funded and headed up by a pal of Stitzel's who was also appointed by Jeb Bush for a committee. Every community wants a piece of this money so Cedric is Winter Haven's golden boy. I wonder if Stitzel helped him get this position.

Or Cedric may be helping GreenStart with international investors. These companies are still about land development with consulting.
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Michael Goeree, who signed the Q-10 document, is also the LLC "in negotiations" to take over GreenStart.

His bio from a 2004 SEC filing for BEVSYSTEMS International, Inc.

Michael J. Goeree serves as the Chairman of the Board of the Company. Since 2003, Mr. Goeree has served as the President and CEO of Sun Rayz Products, Inc. a company engaged in the marketing and distribution of products containing the "FLA-USA" label. During 2002 and 2003, Mr. Goeree served as a consultant in the beverage industry. From 2002 to 2002, Mr. Goeree served as the President of United Beverage Brands, Inc.. From 1999 to 2000, Mr. Goeree served as the Vice President of Sales and Marketing of NC-Cretan Distilleries, a Toronto based company. From 1997 to 1999, Mr. Goeree served as the Vice President of North American Sales and Marketing for Flugel NV, a liquor producer. Mr. Goeree received a BAA equivalent degree from Hanze Polytechnical University in the Netherlands and took courses towards his master degree at the University of Amsterdam.

link
(Wasn't Donna Prostko from the Netherlands?)

another tie with Lewis and Goeree http://tampabay.bizjournals.com/tampabay/stories/2006/06/26/daily29.html?surround=lfn
 
I finally understand I think what is going on. When Dee posts about renting the little red house or when Shar filled out the HVAC form - it's telling people they have a house to move. There were about 15 of those HVAC forms filed out by the same contractor in Plant City in a six month period. The contractor gets a kickback for filing the document with the county. People see them by watching the court filings on the county website. They then do another filing saying the work is completed - they have moved the house. I saw a tons of these through Stitzel's company.

James Moore just filed two to request start of contractor work; one for a pool (the company is connected to Stitzel) and another for new shingles. They are moving two of Stitzel's houses.

When Moore advertises that she needs three nurses, she has three houses. She's doing the same thing as these guys but in a less crude way. The shingle was a code that they are moving the tan house. Remember - she had a Craigslist post in December needing a nurse. These guys put a boat in front of a house as a for-sale sign; Stitzel goes up a notch and puts out his shingle.

They do this like drug dealers move product.
 
It's about not paying taxes and hiding their money. They find a person that recently died and somehow find out the details and make themselves the relatives. They then find people/realtors/investors who get a good deal.

It goes through probate and back and forth a few times until finally with the buyer. No one can keep track of what's happened. After the buyer gets it, they pay cash or get a mortgage and then pay cash.

This is why you see all this obituarys on these sites on the internet. They all have the date of birth/death and the city/state the person was born/died along with the relatives. They change their names to the next of kin. If someone googles the name, the obituary with names matching the probate filings match.
 
Susan1 said:
7/30/08, Byrd and his two law partners go on the radio for a talk show:
http://plantcity2.tbo.com/content/2008/jul/30/pc-photo-archives-wusf-share-war-documentary-award/
Both people making an appearance at the same place. Be kind of difficult for one person to pull that off. So, about 1 1/2 years ago, the three were law partners. They all would share the same address then.
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You knowww I gonna argue against this being proof/evidence that they are 2 separate persons. :yes: Uh huh

* There are no pictures of Barnhill and Stitzel together, at the same time, in one picture... only "voices", no actual appearance.
* Not very difficult to pull this off, given that Byrd is involved and it's Byrd's radio show.
* No, I wouldn't "just ask him" (from post #118)... look at the other extreme's that all these people go to, to pull stuff off... Oh he!! no!!!
* With the depth of research that we're doing here at WS, and the number of people that know this, and come here to read it, I'm quite sure that they are reading the WS site/link :kilroy:. Put almost anything, related to Abraham's case, into Google and you will find us here!
* One person didn't pull off anything... many have pulled off too much.
* "Appear as"... too many things have already been made to "appear as"... the extreme lengths gone to, in order for things to appear and seem as, have been absolutely mind boggling... so to make it look as though they are separate people, with different birthdates etc, wouldn't be any more extreme.

They have the ability and the reasons.

"I didn't know there was such dirty, evil people on this earth, but I really know now," Abraham's mother said. "I'm so hurt.
I've been praying about it. God is the only one who can bring out the truth and give me strength." :prayer:
 
I'm sorry..but I'm laughing. These are crooks; just because they happen to put on the internet that they are attorneys and have a disneyworld backstory - they are low down crooks. Even high up politicans can be heartless crooks. They are at the same level with Moore and her crew.

When you see what they have done in Brevard, it's so disgusting. Saying people have been committed to mental institutions, died horrible deaths, and have committed crimes just to file lawsuits and get money. It's much more sophisticated than this stuff; wrongful death suits. I don't quite get it but it's too hard for me even to study the filings.

I don't know if these are the same people or different but there are three sets of families in Brevard doing this; all the family members have the last name of either Byrd, Stitzel, or DiSalvo. And they are filing court documents practically on a full-time basis.

Even if they are trying cases, I'd be surprised if all three are licensed attorneys. They have created new identites so well that only a full investigation would discover who they are.

It's so shocking that I'm speechless. There are a lot of people involved in this - money lets to get away with almost anything.
 
I just want to find out what happened to Abraham and believe there is still some justice in the world.

I'm not so innocent to think this hasn't been going on for years and it is what it is.
 
lbminnesota said:
I'm sorry..but I'm laughing. These are crooks; just because they happen to put on the internet that they are attorneys and have a disneyworld backstory - they are low down crooks. Even high up politicans can be heartless crooks. They are at the same level with Moore and her crew.

When you see what they have done in Brevard, it's so disgusting. Saying people have been committed to mental institutions, died horrible deaths, and have committed crimes just to file lawsuits and get money. It's much more sophisticated than this stuff; wrongful death suits. I don't quite get it but it's too hard for me even to study the filings.

I don't know if these are the same people or different but there are three sets of families in Brevard doing this; all the family members have the last name of either Byrd, Stitzel, or DiSalvo. And they are filing court documents practically on a full-time basis.

Even if they are trying cases, I'd be surprised if all three are licensed attorneys. They have created new identites so well that only a full investigation would discover who they are.

It's so shocking that I'm speechless. There are a lot of people involved in this - money lets to get away with almost anything.
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(bbm)
Yesssssss, I'm with you on this!

And this is why I remain firm, with my theory on the identities, with the "Barnhill and Stitzel" pictures!

The extremes, that are being used... the incredible efficacy... :eek:

"I didn't know there was such dirty, evil people on this earth, but I really know now," Abraham's mother said. "I'm so hurt.
I've been praying about it. God is the only one who can bring out the truth and give me strength."
:prayer:
 
lbminnesota said:
I just want to find out what happened to Abraham and believe there is still some justice in the world.

I'm not so innocent to think this hasn't been going on for years and it is what it is.
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I would like to think all these people are starting to scurry like cockroaches when the lights come on.
But I think they may not see the light coming on.

Wonderful catching what kind of codes use to do all their dirty work!
:dance:

Are there other people who have gone missing?

lbminnesota:
You do not have to answer this, but do you do this kind of thing for a living? If not, maybe you should.
 
SJRWMD SRPM (WRAC) meeting Tomorrow evening in Viera
Please join in Thursday evening at the RPM meeting Building C (same place, same time as usual). We should shoot to have a big turn-out. There will be several of the SJ-Upper Management folks there (I'm told), so let's all be polite!!

This is a meeting to be at...here are the particulars:

Please join us for the regular Southern Region Recreational Public Meeting (SRPM), which will be combined with the Projects and Land Committee Meeting (PALCOM). Meeting details are as follows:

Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010
Time: 6:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m.

Place: Brevard County Government Center, Viera, Florida
Building C, 1st Floor, County Commission Chambers Room,
2725 Judge Fran Jamieson Way, Viera, Florida, 32940

Directions:
From I-95 N, take Exit 191, CR 509/Wickham Road, and travel west past traffic circle. Turn north onto Stadium Parkway. Turn east onto Judge Fran Jamieson Way and turn right into the Brevard County Government Complex on the right.
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Hold their meetings at the Brevard County Government Center. Why even bother talking in this waterfowler code? Don't think it's a secret to anyone; especially if the meetings include county commissioners. Are these people really adults? I'd swear they were fourteen year olds pretending to be spys.

United Waterfowlers Web Forums - SJRWMD SRPM (WRAC) meeting Tomorrow evening in Viera
 
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