GUILTY FL - Cherish Perrywinkle, 8, Jacksonville, 21 June 2013 #1

[Perodicticus potto]

.If 1 mother reads us discussing these bad judgements her mother made it just might help another child not become someones victim.

I should think that the story of Charish's murder would do that all on its own, without the Wrath of the Internet having to be invoked.

 

[CuriousinNY]

The mother had a live in boyfriend? Where did he think his family was? The prior arrest record for Smith shows kidnapping, not attempting kidnapping. Anyone know the details? Also showed child neglect charges. I read he had a son. Was there other children left in his care?

 

[Penelope]

JSO police report here:

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/media/...98afcb0/JSOPoliceReport_SmithCriminalPast.pdf

Wow! The suspect has quite an extensive criminal history. Based on it, he should not have been walking the streets.

While I do not agree with Charish's mother's actions, I know what it is like to make one mistake that causes something so horrible that you have a hard time ever forgiving yourself -- and this goes a thousand steps beyond that. Believe me, Charish's mom will have to live with her bad decisions for the rest of her life, and that is a worse punishment than the suspect can ever get -- unless he is tortured then torn apart, limb by limb, by a hungry pack of wolves or lions.

The thing that bothers me about this is that, prior to this, the suspect had been charged with (with disposition labeled "adjudicated guilty") purchase of cocaine, kidnapping, theft, grand theft, burglary, fleeing or attempting to elude a police officer -- and, most importantly, lewd and lascivious behavior, and lewd assault on a child. (See link to Police Report, above). Charges against him for Sale, Distribution or Showing of Obscene Material to Minors were dropped. WHY WASN'T THIS MAN LOCKED UP FOR YEARS AND YEARS?

My prayers are with Charish's family and with this dear child -- who was failed by her mother and society -- and by a monster. He is a predator and she was his prey. We need to listen to our gut instincts -- that "hinky meter" inside each of us -- and when we get a feeling that someone is "creepy" or something is not right, we need to act on it. It took me many years to learn to listen to myself, and now that I do, I realize how each of us have the ability to sense danger -- if only we would acknowledge and listen to it.

 

[TripleA]

First thing is that I pray for little Charish and her siblings. What she faced and what they will face are things that no child should endure. It breaks my heart.

Second thing is that I do not believe the mother's story. There is something she is not saying and I am sure that it will come out eventually. It just doesn't add up to me and unless she is shown to have some type of learning disability or condition that does not allow for normal social function then I do not believe her at all.

While I do not negate that she feels the pain of losing her daughter, I truly believe that she does bear partial blame. Yes, that man is evil and he did cause her death, but parents that knowingly put their children in harm's way like his should be held accountable. She endangered all of her children and because of that decision little Charish does not get to wake up ever again.

Not bashing - JMO. I am not a perfect parent and I have made many mistakes in my life, especially when it comes to my children, but getting into a van with my children with a strange man would never ever even cross my mind. That is not a mistake - that is negligence.

 

[CuriousinNY]

Criminal history report summary: http://www.actionnewsjax.com/media/...98afcb0/JSOPoliceReport_SmithCriminalPast.pdf

These are the crimes he was charged with, not necessarily what he was convicted of:

3/20/2012-simple assault/battery, fraud-impersonation
9/15/2009-unlawful impersonation of a public employee, child abuse, obscene telephone calls, extortion
1/31/2008-child neglect
10/31/2006-probation violation
5/23/2003-pawnbroker transaction violation form, theft, burglary to a dwelling, giving false verification of ownership of a pawned item, burglary to curtilage of any other structure
5/29/2003-worthless check
12/22/1990-traffic offenses
11/24/1990-petty theft <$300
1/24/1998-other non forcible sex offense, incest, exposure
11/5/1998-fleeing or attempting to elude a police officer, reckless driving, lewd and lascivious behavior, open alcohol container-driver,
3/13/1998-possession of a controlled substance paraphernalia, tampering with evidence, purchase of cocaine
10/6/1992-sale, distribution or showing of obscense materials to minors, kidnapping
6/3/1992-loitering or prowling
10/18/1991-grand theft, burglary (occupied structure/conveyance).
10/8/1991-worthless check, contempt of court, unlawful use of service from a tampered meter, theft, (some traffic violations), escape
9/21/1990-worthless check
8/15/1990-theft
no arrest date but disposition date of 3/5/1982-lewd assault on a child

 

[matou]

Just read the entire thread. This is so horrible. RIP beautiful Charish. But why did she have to die??? He could have just let her go. What was he thinking? That he wouldn't be caught? Charish wouldn't be found? He put at least 4 hours into getting what he wanted: Charish. It seems to me he didn't even care anymore about getting arrested again, he is so sick and evil, he had to do what he did to her. BUT WHY KILL HER????? Did he want to be put away forever? He will likely die now by law after a trial. There are hundreds of thousands just like him too. Some have their drives under control and others like this can't control themselves anymore. I can't wait for the day we can eradicate this disgusting and evil disease off of the planet. I just don't understand it. Send them all to Mars. JMO

 

[Nana]

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/media/...98afcb0/JSOPoliceReport_SmithCriminalPast.pdf

So according to the police report the officers responded to the kidnapping at 23:18 (11:18 pm)

The van was seen leaving the parking lot at 22:41 (10:41 pm)

yes so almost 40 minutes. When they mean responded I take that as physically showed up to take the report not when the call came in, it could have taken them 10 - 20 mins to get there.

WOW!!!
10 min, 20 min, 40 min doesn't matter to this baby it was a life time!!
May he die a slow death and for mom I will stop there!!!

 

[Beyond Belief]

Every time I read a story like this my hearts just breaks.

 

[Nana]

Every time I read a story like this my hearts just breaks.

Mine too! Just jumping off of your post I have some questions!
1. How old are her other babies?
2. Where was her car, was it left at DG?
3. What about car seats?
4. Did he have car seats in the van?
5. If no car seats were all the little ones just parked in a seat or did the van have a bed?
Oh my I have lots of questions!

 

[CuriousinNY]

I believe the other children are 4 and 5 (I read it in an online article, so I am not certain). I wondered about car seats also. It seemed like such a small detail but atleast 2 of the 3 should have been properly restrained.

 

[Prado]

This made my heart sink. I didn't realise I was in the Located section so it was a huge shock to see her found deceased.
Such a horrible story, every parent's worst nightmare.

I simply cannot blame the mother. The entirety of that falls within the perpetrator. He didn't have to take poor Charish when they left the Walmart together, he didn't have to murder her.
If he was so set in his intent, I don't think his whole plan would've been relying on the mother to allow him to take Charish to McDonalds. I can't help thinking he would have taken her either way, maybe even taken the others.
That said, no matter how you look at it, this case will never, ever read nicely. Tragic and heartbreaking, no-one deserves this.

 

[JaxFlaGal]

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/media/...98afcb0/JSOPoliceReport_SmithCriminalPast.pdf

So according to the police report the officers responded to the kidnapping at 23:18 (11:18 pm)

The van was seen leaving the parking lot at 22:41 (10:41 pm)

yes so almost 40 minutes. When they mean responded I take that as physically showed up to take the report not when the call came in, it could have taken them 10 - 20 mins to get there.

That particular Wal-Mart is in a less urbanized part of town that's more spread out than many other parts of town. Also less crime, less LEO coverage so a patrol can take some time to get there. The closest police substation is about 10 minutes away if they have to drive from there.

 

[CBTampa]

I am going to put my two cents worth in.

Florida's Governor Rick Scott signed the bill to speed up executions in the state of Florida.

http://deathpenaltynews.blogspot.com/2013/06/florida-governor-scott-signs-bill.html

Taking 30 35 years to execute someone for a heinous crime like this is going to end. Hopefully, this will be a deteriorate for crimes like this in the state of Florida. I don't believe that these people can be cured. IMO

 

[Foxfire]

This made my heart sink. I didn't realise I was in the Located section so it was a huge shock to see her found deceased.
Such a horrible story, every parent's worst nightmare.

I simply cannot blame the mother. The entirety of that falls within the perpetrator. He didn't have to take poor Charish when they left the Walmart together, he didn't have to murder her.
If he was so set in his intent, I don't think his whole plan would've been relying on the mother to allow him to take Charish to McDonalds. I can't help thinking he would have taken her either way, maybe even taken the others.
That said, no matter how you look at it, this case will never, ever read nicely. Tragic and heartbreaking, no-one deserves this.

You're right in so many ways Prado...It is difficult to comprehend, but it could have been much, much worse...very good post..
There is an investigation underway in Iowa, where the predator; RSO MJ Klunder may have abducted pairs of children to allow for better control/compliance..
Once the family was in the van at the Dollar General. Charish's mother said she got the hinky feeling.. This may have been his original plan, but for unknown reasons he settled on taking one innocent child's life..

Although many other child abductions cases come to mind. One that stands out where a mother and her daughters were taken hostage by a sexual predator in FL that also used an elaborate ruse to lure them in;

The Pulitzer Prizes | Angels and Demons
www.pulitzer.org/archives/7892
By: Thomas French ... "I believe there are demons all around us," he would say, " just as I believe there are angels all around us."

http://www.pulitzer.org/archives/7892


Sunset 'The Rogers Family abduction'


One year had gone by since the murders, and then another, and now the investigators were deep into a third. They were working day and night, working weekends, putting off vacations, losing weight, gaining weight, growing pale and pasty and haggard, waking at 3 a.m. with a jolt and scratching notes on pads beside their beds. Their sergeant did not know if they would ever find the answer. As far as he was concerned, the case was not even in their hands.

Ultimately, he believed, it was up to God whether they made an arrest.

read more-much more..

 

[Foxfire]

Amazing that a child predator would even choose Walmart, with their sophisticated security systems..imo. In the past year I can remember at least a half dozen Walmart abductions & attempts.

Occasionally they are interrupted by an aware citizen, and others by the 7 yr old victim;

VIDEO: Attempted Abduction at Walmart in Georgia
Walmart Kidnapping: 7 year old Brittney Baxter Kicks And Screams Her Way Out Of Abduction - YouTube

Feb. 9,2012 -

It was a very close call for a little girl walking the aisles of a Wal-Mart in west Georgia.

7-year-old Brittney Baxter recalled her "stranger danger" training and was able to get away from a man who tried to abduct her at the store in Bremen, Georgia.

Police say 25-year-old Thomas Woods tried to take the girl yesterday 2/8/12 while her mom was in a different aisle.

The surveillance video shows a man carrying the girl away, but releasing her after she kicked and screamed.

Woods faces a charge of attempted kidnapping and was out on parole after being convicted of voluntary manslaughter.
read more-

 

[Salem]

BBM

This mother should not be bashed, she just lost her daughter to a monster,a spawn of satan ! Reading along on some of these sights perhaps she does feel the need to come forward with what happened as people are ruthless and perhaps it is part of how she is coping with what has happened...

I'm sure what she is saying is true about him being creepy it was her gut talking. I can also see Charish being completely excited about getting a new dress as this man promises and putting extra pressure on the situation at hand. We dont know what happened because we weren't there, this is extremely sad. Mom saying she did not let her child go with this man and I believe her, this creature knew what he wanted and was not gonna stop until he got it period.

The article that was posted LE stated this "Director Mike Williams of the JSO's Investigations and Homeland Security Division said Saturday that the amount of time between Cherish's disappearance and the time her mother called 911 for help was "not long."
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/conten...Highlands-Baptist/oT9WC_Sw0kG2fhwfCYpblQ.cspx

This doesnt sound like 40 minutes to me that she waited to call, this woman needs a break, her daughter is DEAD, and it is not her fault, it is the freak who took Charish it is his doing period........................

ETA: I know that if I was her, tomorrow is gonna suck, I would wake up a want to die when the realization of everything sinks in, she needs prayers, the whole family and Charish need prayers............................

I had to quote you, Mystic and I changed your bolding to add my own. It sure sounds like this is what happened to me. This creature knew what he wanted and he was NOT going to stop until he got it.

He found this family at the Dollar Store, invoked some nonexistent wife to make mom feel comfortable. Took them to the WalMart, still invoking this nonexistent wife. He probably sensed Mom's hesitation and concern and everytime he felt it, he probably brought up that nonexistent wife again - "oh don't worry, she will be here soon" to get Mom to settle down and trust him some. He waited and worked his opportunity. He could have taken the whole family when he got them in the van. But ... he took them to WalMart -- see Mom, I'm trust worthy, I did what I told you I would do and in a few minutes the wife will be here with that gift card and we can buy your daughter that dress she wants and needs. It's okay, I really am a good guy. Hey, anyone hungry? I'm off to McDonalds, wife should be here any minute with that gift card.

I'm rambling here, but I can so see this working the situation and taking advantage of Mom's vulnerabilities and the kids' naturally trusting natures.

I hope (I can't say what I hope cuz I'll get in trouble) but I hope Karma was watching.

Salem

 

[JaxFlaGal]

At this morning's hearing, Smith was denied bail, pled innocent. Smith's next court appearance will be July 16.

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/conten...uval-County-Judge/J2TsBahoZkqIQc-zlsT4xQ.cspx

 

[RazTaz]

Pleads not guilty and is held with no bond.
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/conten...uval-County-Judge/J2TsBahoZkqIQc-zlsT4xQ.cspx

 

[JoeFromLB]

Now he gets to work the system again. He'll be given some lawyers, and the psychiatrists are lining up.

What he needs is a quick execution. JMO.

 

[manzana]

BBM

invoked some nonexistent wife

Salem

From the nonexistent wife to the imaginary gift card not in his possession, how gullible or naive can one be?
Sorry but I think some are cutting her way too much slack.

Four hours and she did not even question her decision making during the course of the evening.

Great point about the CAR SEATS, I am sure this van had none, that alone should have sent this mother running.

Would not surprise me if he had his kit in plain sight, duct tape' rope etc.

I understand victim friendly, Charish is the victim. Victim stupid is another thing.

Just a few off the top of my head, had a knife at throat and was robbed of $300.00, had a shotgun aimed at head, had four gold chains ripped from my neck.........each situation could have been easily avoided by me. People do do alot to bring on their own victimization in many situations. Making better decisions can go a long way to prevent one from becoming a victim,

Having an attitude like I am free to go wherever at whatever hour lends itself to becoming a victim.