FL - Dr Teresa Sievers, 46, murdered in home, Bonita Springs, June 2015 *ARRESTS* #6

[Wish I Knew]

I'm just throwing this in and it really means nothing,but I live in Tampa which is 185 miles from Bonita Springs. I read both the Tampa and ST. Petersburg newspapers every day from cover to cover (I'm retired) and this case has never been mentioned here, so a jury from here would be relatively easy to sit.

I live in Tampa, too......and I have not read a word about it....or even seen mention of it on the local news. I actually first heard of this murder while sitting in a hotel room in Paris.....watching CNN! (I had fallen and broken my fibula.....so was stuck watching tv).

But nothing running locally....

ETA a shout - out to PapillonLove X 3 Paps here!

 

[Deleted member 159541]

Here is my fear. Clearly CWW had drug issues in the past and MS seemed to be the person to give him a leg up by offering him some work. This friendship runs very deep. Clearly CWW looked up to MS, he modeled his entire look after MS, right down to the glasses. If CWW was a middle man - will he flip on the person who either hired, manipulated or persuaded him to hire someone to murder TS? Let's face it, CWW and JR are dumb. There is no other explanation for keeping facebook connections live for others to see. Therefore, I am CONVINCED that there is a 3rd person "mastermind" behind this. I'm not saying it was MS - but if it was, how likely is it that CWW will "flip" on his lifelong friend who he looked up to? Sheriff Scott talked about leverage now that the two were in custody. What if that leverage doesn't reap any additional results? Further, what if someone is so crafty as to have covered their involvement entirely so that if discovered, it all falls on CWW and JR. I hope that is not the case.

 

[wondering25]

How much harder does that make it to try the case or even seat the jury in Florida?! Yikes! I suppose depending on which side you're on, that could work for or against you.

Missouri apparently has sunshine laws too?

https://ago.mo.gov/docs/default-source/publications/missourisunshinelaw.pdf?sfvrsn=4​

 

[Deleted member 159541]

I don't know if this has been answered already but CWW had the "look" of MS in pictures in early 2015 and before -

 

[SeesSeas]

Here is my fear. Clearly CWW had drug issues in the past and MS seemed to be the person to give him a leg up by offering him some work. This friendship runs very deep. Clearly CWW looked up to MS, he modeled his entire look after MS, right down to the glasses. If CWW was a middle man - will he flip on the person who either hired, manipulated or persuaded him to hire someone to murder TS? Let's face it, CWW and JR are dumb. There is no other explanation for keeping facebook connections live for others to see. Therefore, I am CONVINCED that there is a 3rd person "mastermind" behind this. I'm not saying it was MS - but if it was, how likely is it that CWW will "flip" on his lifelong friend who he looked up to? Sheriff Scott talked about leverage now that the two were in custody. What if that leverage doesn't reap any additional results? Further, what if someone is so crafty as to have covered their involvement entirely so that if discovered, it all falls on CWW and JR. I hope that is not the case.

I think those who know Jimmy Rodgers will tell LE everything that JR told them.
JR probably bragged about a lot of the details - - who, why, what, where and when. Hoping this week brings answers to all those questions.

 

[Hiandmighty]

I think they were running drugs outside of the business but needed a legitimate business to deposit the money through. Money laundering.

She figured it out and was going to expose it cause she wanted it gone.

 

[atthelake]

Missouri apparently has sunshine laws too?

https://ago.mo.gov/docs/default-source/publications/missourisunshinelaw.pdf?sfvrsn=4​

"Sunshine" in general means meetings etc are open.... Florida takes it to *another* level.... ??
Sunshine laws for release of information prior to trials ( :websleuther: interest ) are different in meaning state to state perhaps.

All fifty U.S. states also have freedom of information laws that govern documents at state and local levels.[3]

The provisions of these State Freedom of Information Laws [4] vary considerably by state. Florida, Ohio, and Vermont are known for having pro-access freedom of information laws. Florida was one of the first states to enact an open government sunshine law. Other jurisdictions, such as Pennsylvania and the District of Columbia, were until recently known for being relatively non-transparent but have since made significant changes to their open government laws to foster greater public access to information.[5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_information_in_the_United_States

 

[indianwin2001]

I think those who know Jimmy Rodgers will tell LE everything that JR told them.
JR probably bragged about a lot of the details - - who, why, what, where and when. Hoping this week brings answers to all those questions.

I think JR will tell LE everything himself,if he hasn't already.

 

[volcarm]

Wonder who decided TS come home so late that evening? A woman traveling alone 11:30 at night...a little dangerous and very convenient.

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[kammiemc]

Here is my fear. Clearly CWW had drug issues in the past and MS seemed to be the person to give him a leg up by offering him some work. This friendship runs very deep. Clearly CWW looked up to MS, he modeled his entire look after MS, right down to the glasses. If CWW was a middle man - will he flip on the person who either hired, manipulated or persuaded him to hire someone to murder TS? Let's face it, CWW and JR are dumb. There is no other explanation for keeping facebook connections live for others to see. Therefore, I am CONVINCED that there is a 3rd person "mastermind" behind this. I'm not saying it was MS - but if it was, how likely is it that CWW will "flip" on his lifelong friend who he looked up to? Sheriff Scott talked about leverage now that the two were in custody. What if that leverage doesn't reap any additional results? Further, what if someone is so crafty as to have covered their involvement entirely so that if discovered, it all falls on CWW and JR. I hope that is not the case.

Maybe Hammer would be easier to flip. He seems like a complete immoral idiot with no redeeming qualities at all. But it might be hard to prove that MS is the mastermind, because he might have excuses for having communication with Wayne during all the significant times. Maybe Wayne's wife knows something and wills share. Or maybe money exchanged hands. Oh my gosh, if they can't prove MS's involvement or don't have enough evidence to convict (if the glove don't fit) that will be a tragedy on a tragedy.

So, what with LS's sudden silence when asked about the arrest? You'd think she would take the opportunity to deliver TS's healing message and her own involvement in that process. She's still posting her classes on FB (as of the night of the arrest) as if it's all biz as usual. THAT's wishful thinking. She might provide info if the gig is up.

 

[wondering25]

How much harder does that make it to try the case or even seat the jury in Florida?! Yikes! I suppose depending on which side you're on, that could work for or against you.

How did he get in?-Nin

If I remember correctly there was footage on TV and talk that the home security company was on the scene very early on. Did TS disarm her own system once she got home?? Did CWW hack into it and disarm it remotely so JR could get in? She may have kept her system on "stay" once she was home.. that keeps the windows and doors armed if someone opens them or break in but disables the motion detectors so you can walk around the house freely. AND, since they had dogs, it would be almost impossible to have motion detectors on at night..Even if you are in bed.. the dogs walking around would trip the motion detectors. Who had the dogs when they were away? The security system may have never been on if they had someone coming to feed the dogs. OR she assigned a code to the dog watcher..sent it in an email and CWW got it by just looking at the office/personal emails TS sent.

JR broke down the door.. The security system either wasn't armed or CWW hacked into it and disarmed it. JMO

 

[Riversinthedesert]

I think JR will tell LE everything himself,if he hasn't already.

Indianwin, what do you think the hold up is in making the additional arrest(s)?

 

[Riversinthedesert]

Wonder who decided TS come home so late that evening? A woman traveling alone 11:30 at night...a little dangerous and very convenient.

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Where did you get 11:30 from? I thought it is has not been confirmed as to how she got home from the airport or what time.

 

[atthelake]

Wonder who decided TS come home so late that evening? A woman traveling alone 11:30 at night...a little dangerous and very convenient.

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Ummmm us single ladies do it all the time and don't consider it dangerous at all

 

[Bobbywoo]

Ummmm us single ladies do it all the time and don't consider it dangerous at all

I was thinking the same thing. We/I must be used to it?

 

[wondering25]

So, these 2 scumbags are charged with second degree murder. I think the state is saving the FIRST DEGREE murder charge for the person/persons who hired the hit man/men. Read this: http://statelaws.findlaw.com/florida-law/florida-first-degree-murder-laws.html[h=1]Florida First Degree Murder Laws[/h] 12 9881




[h=3]Overview of Florida First Degree Murder Laws[/h]Homicide, the unlawful killing of a human being, includes several degrees of murder and manslaughter under the state laws of Florida. The type of homicide determines the prosecutor's requirements and the potential punishment in the event of a conviction. First degree murder, the most serious of the homicide charges available under Florida law, includes premeditated killings, felony murders, and murders committed during specified drug dealing offenses.
For a charge of first degree murder based on a premeditated killing, the prosecutor must show the defendant's specific intent to kill. The prosecutor often must establish an advance plan or design formed to carry out the homicide. To establish premeditation, the prosecutor may need to present evidence about the defendant's activities or steps taken to prepare for the killing.
Florida requires the prosecution of "felony murder," which also leads to a first degree murder charge, when the defendant commits homicide while during the commission of a specified felony or an attempt to carry out a felony. State laws include a list of felonies that qualify a homicide as first degree murder. These felonies include burglary, home-invasion robbery, kidnapping, sexual battery, and many other offenses, including the murder of another person. While the prosecutor must prove that the defendant intended to participate in the underlying felony, the state can proceed with the charge even if the defendant did not personally perform the killing.
Lastly, Florida state laws specify first degree murder for a homicide caused by drug dealing and the unlawful distribution of controlled substances. The drug-related offenses must involve controlled substances specified by state law, including cocaine and opium. For example, if a victim dies from a drug overdose, the state might try to prosecute the drug distributor on a charge of first degree murder.
[h=3]Defenses to First Degree Murder Charges[/h]The available defenses to a charge of first degree murder depend on the basis for the charge. The three types of first degree murder require distinct legal arguments. For example, a defendant facing a felony murder charge might try to show that he did not have the required intent to participate in the related underlying felony. Alternatively, a defendant may need to show a lack of premeditation.
[h=3]Penalties and Sentences[/h]First degree murder is a capital felony in Florida. For a capital felony, the state may pursue the death penalty. If court proceedings at the sentencing stage lead to a determination that the defendant should not receive the death penalty, state law requires a sentence of life imprisonment without the possibility of parole.
[h=3]Florida First Degree Murder Statute[/h]Florida Statutes Sections 782.02-782.36
Note: State laws are constantly changing -- please contact a Florida criminal defense attorney or conduct your own legal research to verify the state law(s) you are researching.
- See more at: http://statelaws.findlaw.com/florida-law/florida-first-degree-murder-laws.html#sthash.8ppbz1Hq.dpuf

 

[volcarm]

I'm a single woman and I make sure I'm not alone after dark....too much reading these cases!

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[volcarm]

Where did you get 11:30 from? I thought it is has not been confirmed as to how she got home from the airport or what time.

It is not fact but I thought I read on one of the threads that she returned home around 11:30... Could very well be wrong.

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[kammiemc]

I think they were running drugs outside of the business but needed a legitimate business to deposit the money through. Money laundering.

She figured it out and was going to expose it cause she wanted it gone.

That's kinda sorta what I was thinking. Although I'm not sure that she actually found about it. (Maybe!) Regardless, I think there was a greater motive to get her out of someone's life entirely and to collect multiple insurance policies. Again, such arrogance. Birds of a feather.

 

[Riversinthedesert]

If I remember correctly there was footage on TV and talk that the home security company was on the scene very early on. Did TS disarm her own system once she got home?? Did CWW hack into it and disarm it remotely so JR could get in? She may have kept her system on "stay" once she was home.. that keeps the windows and doors armed if someone opens them or break in but disables the motion detectors so you can walk around the house freely. AND, since they had dogs, it would be almost impossible to have motion detectors on at night..Even if you are in bed.. the dogs walking around would trip the motion detectors. Who had the dogs when they were away? The security system may have never been on if they had someone coming to feed the dogs. OR she assigned a code to the dog watcher..sent it in an email and CWW got it by just looking at the office/personal emails TS sent.

JR broke down the door.. The security system either wasn't armed or CWW hacked into it and disarmed it. JMO

IMO the door break in was staged. My guess is that JR may have been given a key, and the alarm system was disarmed by JR (if he was given the code) or by CWW (remotely).

Going back to Sheriff's recent comments that the perps went to extraordinary effort to cover their tracks. Paraphrasing but he said the perps were successful in doing so, but not good enough. In fact, I think they may have planted other evidence, trying to throw investigators of their trail. Sheriff said their was more evidence than he has EVER seen, and referred to the evidence as a "great body of work".