FL - FSU Law Professor Dan Markel Murdered by Hitmen *4 Guilty* #23

[amicuscurie]

My understanding (and its way past my bedtime) is that Charlie had a condo in Aventura that he shared with another guy-maybe Ryan F. I can’t remember.
He was discussing on a wire tap about his parents renting another apartment in the same building. He didn’t share any S Beach apartment with them. He lived full time in Ft Lauderdale, 45 minutes away.
D and H already had their own place rented in the Icon.
They stayed there TH-Sun as H was still working M-F.

I disagree. The place they lived on weekends before the murder was the place in the Continuum. They didnt start renting in the Icon until after the murder. Charlie had a separate place in FLL, but I think he also used the apartment in Continuum from time to time. Again, Katie testified the beach photo was taken at Continuum. Harvey’s birthday was there, and there is a text before the murder from Donna to Charlie asking whether he wanted to use the apartment that weekend. I believe that apartment was in Continuum. Unless there is evidence that they leased the apartment at the Icon before the murder. I don’t believe that’s the case, I believe they moved there afterward. In the bump calls, Donna is talking about renting another unit at the Icon, most likely because the one she’s in is up for sale.

 

[Knitpicker]

They didn’t have the apartment at the Icon, I don’t believe, until after the murder. They lived with Wendi at Contunuum at first, then they each got places of their own later.

My understanding is that they rented in the ICON at the same time they got the place at the Continuim.
Yes, that is where they were on the beach photo.
Yindra probably could have confirmed that, but she was not asked specifically about that.
Tomorrow, I’ll work on this.
I always wondered how Wendi shared a 2 bedroom with her parents and the boys for a year. It never made sense, these are millionaires. D and H would have rented a 3 bedroom if they were going to share a place with W and boys.

 

[amicuscurie]

My understanding is that they rented in the ICON at the same time they got the place at the Continuim.

Do you have evidence for that? Are there 2 leases? That would be super interesting. That was never my impression, but it could be, if the evidence bears it out.

 

[Knitpicker]

Do you have evidence for that? Are there 2 leases? That would be super interesting. That was never my impression, but it could be, if the evidence bears it out.

I edited my last comment. Now past my bedtime, I’ll be up all night pumping cortisol…I will try and get the facts tomorrow. You can get the info online-at least I saw it 2 years ago. Two different addresses for D and H on Alton Rd. (The Icon).

 

[Going Rogue]

Of course it does speak more to Donnas part, but when Wendi found out her lease was up in May 2015, you don’t think she would have known her family was in on it?
Now I know you are going to say that this also doesn’t implicate Wendi, but we know she admits that she stopped speaking to her parents about the murder in 2016, right?
So she is fine letting her mother raise her kids when they had her ex husband, and the father of the kids murdered?
As Georgia says, “use your common sense”.

I’m having a difficult time following your points... Wendi's lease? Maybe tomorrow you can try to clarify your thoughts and theory on these multiple apartments. As I said the apartment they (allegedly) rented for Wendi is not new information. Hare a good night.

 

[Knitpicker]

I disagree. The place they lived on weekends before the murder was the place in the Continuum. They didnt start renting in the Icon until after the murder. Charlie had a separate place in FLL, but I think he also used the apartment in Continuum from time to time. Again, Katie testified the beach photo was taken at Continuum. Harvey’s birthday was there, and there is a text before the murder from Donna to Charlie asking whether he wanted to use the apartment that weekend. I believe that apartment was in Continuum. Unless there is evidence that they leased the apartment at the Icon before the murder. I don’t believe that’s the case, I believe they moved there afterward. In the bump calls, Donna is talking about renting another unit at the Icon, most likely because the one she’s in is up for sale.

yes, we know where the photos were taken and that Wendi was living there.
I will have to continue this discussion tomorrow. My brain needs sleep.

 

[Knitpicker]

I’m having a difficult time following your points... Wendi's lease? Maybe tomorrow you can try to clarify your thoughts and theory on these multiple apartments. As I said the apartment they (allegedly) rented for Wendi is not new information. Hare a good night.

The fact that she lived there alone with the boys, while her parents had their own apartment, I believe is new information. And when it was rented. I will try and get the facts about this tomorrow.

 

[Zedzded]

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[Zedzded]

No, this was specifically for Wendi.
They has a place already rented in the ICON.

Thats why it is such an important piece of evidence.
If she never put her address on that work order for Dans roof, it would never have been found out.
Patty found it.

What is the order for Dan's roof and why is it relevant? I've never heard about that.

 

[Going Rogue]

The fact that she lived there alone with the boys, while her parents had their own apartment, I believe is new information. And when it was rented. I will try and get the facts about this tomorrow.

I went back and reviewed your last several posts after my morning coffee. I agree it could be relevant data if Donna and Harvey rented a ‘third’ place in S. Florida prior to Dan’s murder. I know it was always a ‘theory’ they were inquiring on another place prior to the murder, and there was speculation it was in anticipation of Wendi’s pending arrival. Going on memory I don’t recall that they actually signed another lease prior to Dan’s murder AND a third place? I’d also need to hear again what Patty was reporting, I thought it was just that Wendi gave an address other than Coral Springs on the work order for the roof repair - but maybe I missed something? If that was the ‘first’ (Patty’s discovery) time the state (or public) had proof of another rental I can see how that could be very relevant depending on the timing. If you are researching this, I am interested in the true details here.

 

[Knitpicker]

I went back and reviewed your last several posts after my morning coffee. I agree it could be relevant data if Donna and Harvey rented a ‘third’ place in S. Florida prior to Dan’s murder. I know it was always a ‘theory’ they were inquiring on another place prior to the murder, and there was speculation it was in anticipation of Wendi’s pending arrival. Going on memory I don’t recall that they actually signed another lease prior to Dan’s murder AND a third place? I’d also need to hear again what Patty was reporting, I thought it was just that Wendi gave an address other than Coral Springs on the work order for the roof repair - but maybe I missed something? If that was the ‘first’ (Patty’s discovery) time the state (or public) had proof of another rental I can see how that could be very relevant depending on the timing. If you are researching this, I am interested in the true details here.

I don’t want to be wrong, but the information started with True (Susan)and then Patty started with the info of the apartments(condos).I thought I had it all straightened out ,as far as facts, but Amiscurie seemed to differ, and perhaps he/she is right and I am wrong.
I did not think W lived at the Continuim with her parents,
I know thats what most thought in the past, including myself.

I am going to have to revisit all those videos and that will take some time, and tomorrow I have a 4 day conference out of town so unless someone else does it first, it is going to have to wait. I don’t have the time today as I have a lot to do before I leave.