FL - Jennifer Kesse, 24, Orlando, 24 Jan 2006 - #12

[Myserty64]

I remember a lot of debate when Tara Grinstead was missing. There was lots of speculation and lots of theories.
Now that suspects have been arrested it appears they were known to the victim as is often the case.

How often do you hear 'most people are murdered by someone they know.'

Now to the grainy pictures of the POI. I'm sorry to say I just don't see what others see.
That's ok because I don't have 20/20 vision any longer.

However I remember those grainy images were sent to NASA to see if that agency could enhance them.
Since I can't recall any outcome from this action can anyone enlighten me regarding this.

 

[rd_jfc]

I noticed that, too. They actually mention it in the podcast but they are slightly speaking over each other--or maybe it's the background recording as they prepare the voice over--but from the little I gather of the conversation, I think they say it's really nothing because of a delay caused by "it" jumping to the frame.


rd, I can't find it. I get so frustrated--I can't see that stuff. Can you tell me if that series of pictures would have a title? I noticed some that you title.

I see one that begins with: "third still with suspect's face similar to [KS] suspect" ...

When I scroll down that series of pictures, I see two smaller boxes--one dark gray, and one light gray. I can't see anything inside either box. Then there is a smaller picture of a badge, plus four others, all one under the other.

Am I even close?

BTW, I agree with your second finding that he has turned his whole body and is looking straight back at Jenn's car.


BBM - Yes, I thought exactly that. (Okay, my math might be out a second from yours.) But, from the time he left Jenn's vehicle, he walked 21 seconds, covering a good two thirds of the total distance. That leaves him a full 20 seconds to cover the scant last third. He either slowed his pace, or he came to a brief but full stop.

Lots of time to adjust whatever might require adjusting or to drop some latex gloves under the bushes.

Only have time for one response this morning, but a couple of things.
Truth, the 21 second math comes from fact that the timestamp in CAM3 images 1 and 2 is 27 seconds. The labelling in the picture is 26. It's a minor detail but is a typo or something, or there is some other source of data I'm not aware of. The third image timestamp is 28 seconds.

Image wise, I have some descriptions at top of page of what there is going down the page. There are a lot of big images and several smaller images interspersed down the page. The images go wide, one would need to scroll to right and up and down in the images to see everything.

I would recommend to anyone that they save all the images to a desktop PC and look at each image individually in image software, I used the low cost Paint Shop Pro to do this work. Any image software will do, you can work with it like a map making it smaller and larger to get your bearings and then gradually increase to full size and focus on areas of interest. I have most areas of interest isolated to separate clips of the enlarged images.

I imagine lots of people aren't seeing all the images on the page accurately.

thanks for now, running late.

 

[Truth Prevails]

Did any other cameras catch him after this? If not were there any cameras that would have given he went a certain way so we can determine which way he continued via process of elimination?

Unfortunately, no--not to the best of our knowledge. We know LE seized lots of surveillance video from businesses surrounding the area but nothing of any significance was ever reported.

They are not even certain which way he was traveling when he pulled Jennifer's car into the HOG from S. Texas Avenue.

There was mention in an old article of the following: (The link no longer works, but it is a direct copy and past quote, word for word.)

Snipped quote: Detectives think Jennifer herself, or someone else, was traveling on South John Young Parkway, between Texas and Americana and Conroy Road by the Mall of Millenia, during that time frame.

A manager at the 7-Eleven along John Young and Americana confirmed that police collected their outdoor surveillance tapes looking for clues.
http://www.wftv.com/news/6630167/detail.html

But we don't know if the information in the first snipped paragraph came from tips, video surveillance, or cell phone ping locations.

(The time frame they are referring to is from 10:00 pm on the 23rd to 8:00 am on the 24th).

 

[Truth Prevails]

I remember a lot of debate when Tara Grinstead was missing. There was lots of speculation and lots of theories.
Now that suspects have been arrested it appears they were known to the victim as is often the case.

Yes, sadly, how true this is.

Also, in the Tara Grinstead case, everyone always said that like Jennifer's case, there was no sign of a break-in at her home.

Now we know for a certainty that was not the case.

How often do you hear 'most people are murdered by someone they know.'

Too often.

Now to the grainy pictures of the POI. I'm sorry to say I just don't see what others see.
That's ok because I don't have 20/20 vision any longer.

I'm gonna give it another go after I get a few things done, but I need more coffee to tackle them.

However I remember those grainy images were sent to NASA to see if that agency could enhance them.
Since I can't recall any outcome from this action can anyone enlighten me regarding this.

I hope someone corrects me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the images Mr. Kesse has on his site are the enhancements.

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Mystery--I think I mentioned this already--but whenever I have a little time I review the old threads here at W/S. The other day I came across a comment from you where you mentioned hearing about a knock on Jennifer's door on the evening of the 23rd.

This would have been almost a year before the podcast brought this to my attention.

I was wondering if you remember where you would have came across that and if there are any other little details you might remember hearing about it?

I would love to have some more info on that from a reliable source.

 

[Myserty64]

I am certain the first time I heard about the knock on the door was very recently.

I don't want to be leading anyone on a wild goose chase.

I wish LE would give us just a couple of 'breadcrumbs' from what they are holding back in this investigation.
I'm sure everyone would appreciate anything 'fresh' to help with our theories.

Just what does LE have only the perpetrator would know?

 

[Truth Prevails]

I am certain the first time I heard about the knock on the door was very recently.

I don't want to be leading anyone on a wild goose chase.

Okay, got it. Point well taken.

I wish LE would give us just a couple of 'breadcrumbs' from what they are holding back in this investigation.
I'm sure everyone would appreciate anything 'fresh' to help with our theories.

Oh, yes, even a crumb. A time for when the call ended with RA; a time for the knock on the door. Anything.

Now the good stuff: the missing 20 seconds of video; the ping study? Oh, how I wish.

Just what does LE have only the perpetrator would know?

And your statement is the very important part--if LE is truly lacking DNA that will firmly tie the perpetrator to the crime, then their best chance for a conviction would be to trip him up with circumstantial evidence.

So, I know they have to hold stuff back. Indeed, I pray that they are holding back something.

But, maybe a good discussion can help with awareness for Jenn's disappearance. Keeps the pressure on a little. By the very nature of our humanness, we are bound to ask for more.

I ask for forgiveness for typing this--but (for me) prayers get a little old sometimes. I need something to stir up my passion so I'll pray with a little more conviction.

 

[Truth Prevails]

Only have time for one response this morning, but a couple of things.
Truth, the 21 second math comes from fact that the timestamp in CAM3 images 1 and 2 is 27 seconds. The labelling in the picture is 26. It's a minor detail but is a typo or something, or there is some other source of data I'm not aware of. The third image timestamp is 28 seconds.

Sure. You're saying if he exited Cam 2 at 12:00:06, and reentered on Cam 3 at 12:00:27 (based on the timestamp in your images): that is 21 seconds.

The source I based by somewhat regrettable efforts on used: he exited Cam 2 at 12:00:06, and reentered on Cam 3 at 12:00:26 (based on the ticking clock at the top of the video)--equaling 20 seconds.

I noticed that right away because I had the images opened; I had two POI videos opened; I had the podcast opened; and I had my map opened. And I saw this debate coming, too. lololol

I do believe the strange little bump is caused by the video being spliced together. (I don't suppose they still call it that?)

Here is a link to the video I used and an attempt to capture a screenshot of the POI as he first walked into the frame of Cam 3. See what you think, if you have a minute.

https://youtu.be/7pnHBqFOstY

But 20 seconds, or 21 seconds--that's a decent chunk of time. Interesting to speculate on what it might show. Or, maybe nothing.

Image wise, I have some descriptions at top of page of what there is going down the page. There are a lot of big images and several smaller images interspersed down the page. The images go wide, one would need to scroll to right and up and down in the images to see everything.

I would recommend to anyone that they save all the images to a desktop PC and look at each image individually in image software, I used the low cost Paint Shop Pro to do this work. Any image software will do, you can work with it like a map making it smaller and larger to get your bearings and then gradually increase to full size and focus on areas of interest. I have most areas of interest isolated to separate clips of the enlarged images.

I imagine lots of people aren't seeing all the images on the page accurately.

thanks for now, running late.

Thanks for this part. I'm still working on my stamina to go back in and have a look again. I would really like to try to see the hand blow-up. (I doubt that I would really be able to make it out because his hand must be so small, but I'd like to try, anyway.)

*I'm hoping to get this edit done in time: I wanted to add that the image timestamp for the third image is marked correctly because I added it directly from the timestamp on the photo from your link--they don't, of course, mention it in the podcast.

 

[MaryG12]

wow, didn't know about the security guard murderer there in Orlando. Thanks for that connection, Mary.
It looks like he would have been 24 in 2006 and his mug shot is one of those faces that the POI third image looks like. And it would eliminate a lot.


He was a Security Guard for Balsams Grand Resort Hotel in New Hampshire (2004-2008) when Jennifer disappeared.


Interestingly, he then went into the Air Force (2008-2014) and was a Pharmacy Tech.


Then to Port Orange and a Security Guard again and tragically Sasha Samsudean lost her life.


I don't know, there's enough here that I think we'd have to ascertain his work schedule at that time, that it wasn't during time off from work to eliminate him, but the resort changed ownership and is closed for renovations now.

You're welcome!




Sasha was murdered on October 17, 2015, and Jennifer went missing January 24, 2006 - the same time period Florida has its "snowbird" season.


With Duxbury being from New Hampshire...you never know. Of course the person who disappeared Jennifer could be someone entirely different, too.


Also, Florida does get a lot of fake security guards this time of year as well.

 

[rd_jfc]

Sure. You're saying if he exited Cam 2 at 12:00:06, and reentered on Cam 3 at 12:00:27 (based on the timestamp in your images): that is 21 seconds.

The source I based by somewhat regrettable efforts on used: he exited Cam 2 at 12:00:06, and reentered on Cam 3 at 12:00:26 (based on the ticking clock at the top of the video)--equaling 20 seconds.

I noticed that right away because I had the images opened; I had two POI videos opened; I had the podcast opened; and I had my map opened. And I saw this debate coming, too. lololol

I do believe the strange little bump is caused by the video being spliced together. (I don't suppose they still call it that?)

Here is a link to the video I used and an attempt to capture a screenshot of the POI as he first walked into the frame of Cam 3. See what you think, if you have a minute.

View attachment 130682 https://youtu.be/7pnHBqFOstY

But 20 seconds, or 21 seconds--that's a decent chunk of time. Interesting to speculate on what it might show. Or, maybe nothing.


Thanks for this part. I'm still working on my stamina to go back in and have a look again. I would really like to try to see the hand blow-up. (I doubt that I would really be able to make it out because his hand must be so small, but I'd like to try, anyway.)

*I'm hoping to get this edit done in time: I wanted to add that the image timestamp for the third image is marked correctly because I added it directly from the timestamp on the photo from your link--they don't, of course, mention it in the podcast.

Truth, you have stuff I don't have. The CAM2 video I have only goes to 12:59:51, just before your marker about hot tub. (Also your times are given in adjusted correct time, the time stamps are an hour ahead. 13:00 not 12:00)

I have seen the video where he's walking but it's been many years and was so dark I couldn't make anything out. I didn't even try to look at the video hard until last year, I spent a few hours on it. I don't recall where I downloaded it from. I focused on the relative height standing next to car to get another perspective of height.

You are saying re-entered CAM3 at 12:00:26 and I don't know where you are getting that number. The only thing I have are three still images released by OPD and the time stamp on first two is 13:00:27 (it is known the cameras were an hour ahead)

The two images on jenniferkesse.com are the images from the surviellance camera released by OPD. I am the only one who has released/posted enhancements (mine were enlargements and adjusting brightness/contrast). There is no enhancement to replace the camera stills by a third party that I'm aware of. At the very least both the original and enhanced would be provided as of course I do on the POI Blowups page.

lastly, re: a possible hand gripping something, look down the page for the small picture of a hand holding an X26. Look right above in image, over one bar and up one bar, and between two bars is what could be curled fingers of a hand gripping something. Note this is in the area of his shoulder and the markings on the shirt. Some of it may be from a shoulder insignia, some may be from front of shirt. The open lens capturinig movement really shifts things around, but it can give you an idea what might be on shirt. These are not random markings.

Thanks for info. Talk to you later.

 

[shelly111]

A comment mentioned the security guard stephen duxbury who killed a woman in her . stephen duxbury also worked at North bridge apts in mellania mall area where jennifer used to live !!!
It's like 2-3 min away !!!
If he doesn't match the poi maybe he payed someone to drive the car and parked it, maybe a stranger or illegal worker.

 

[shelly111]

for those who don't know dtephen duxbury killed sasha samsudean in ber apt. It was at the uptown apts complex.

 

[snowleopard]

I tried to find height/weight info for duxbury, couldn't find anything concrete. Here's a picture, he looks a lot more 'husky' than the perp in the video, fwiw.
http://www.wftv.com/news/local/security-guard-accused-raping-killing-woman-booked/26975332

 

[rd_jfc]

A comment mentioned the security guard stephen duxbury who killed a woman in her . stephen duxbury also worked at North bridge apts in mellania mall area where jennifer used to live !!!
It's like 2-3 min away !!!
If he doesn't match the poi maybe he payed someone to drive the car and parked it, maybe a stranger or illegal worker.

He actually looks like the POI where the face can be seen in image 3, so that isn't a problem. The only question is if he was working in New Hampshire on the day Jennifer disappeared or had time off. I wouldn't rule him out unless he was known to be up there at the time. Good info on the Millenia Mall connection.

 

[rd_jfc]

I tried to find height/weight info for duxbury, couldn't find anything concrete. Here's a picture, he looks a lot more 'husky' than the perp in the video, fwiw.
http://www.wftv.com/news/local/security-guard-accused-raping-killing-woman-booked/26975332

Yeah, but it's 11 years later. He would have been 24 then and for most of us a lot lighter.

 

[Truth Prevails]

Truth, you have stuff I don't have. The CAM2 video I have only goes to 12:59:51, just before your marker about hot tub.

I don't think so. I think I'm just doing a poor job trying to explain myself.

Like everything else about this case, there are different POI videos. They are not all identical. Besides the one I linked in my original comment, I also sometimes watch one that only goes to 13:00:00--and then switches to Cam 3 but the clock does not show (nor does it state Cam 3 footage is being shown).

That really added to my confusion for the longest time.

Another thing that varies greatly in the various videos is the clarity of the POI parking Jenn's vehicle in the parking spot. In some, it is so blurry I can't even see anything until he starts walking. In others, I can clearly see him driving the car in, backing the car up, driving the car in again, and count the 32 seconds before he exits Jenn's vehicle.

The link I gave is one that is not clear at the start, but I chose it because it keeps the clock running, and shows when we are watching Cam 2 and when we are watching Cam 3.

(Also your times are given in adjusted correct time, the time stamps are an hour ahead. 13:00 not 12:00)

Yes, this is correct. I regret doing that now. I decided that everyone probably knew about the hour time difference; so I thought it would make it easier to just put in the correct times. It was a bad decision.

When I decided to add my image, I did do some snipped transcriptions from the Unconcluded podcast video to support my locations, etc. I opted not to add them as I thought it would make my comment too long. While I highly recommend that everyone should watch the whole video, maybe the snipped transcripts will help; so I'll add a few:

(Also you will note that the podcast host has given the correct times; however, he asks everyone who watches to only pay attention to the seconds. He does explain about the hour difference, though).

Transcript @ about 18:50 minutes:
Shaun: So, the video starts with the POI driving Jennifer’s car into the parking lot behind the pool. They back up; pull back in; wait 32 seconds; and then get out of the car.

You’ll notice that the person exits the car at 11:59:45.

By 11:59:53, the suspect has rounded the corner of the pool and is walking past the hot tub.

By noon on the dot, that’s 12:00:00, they’re about 1/3 of the way past the pool.

And by 12:00:06, that is 12:00:06, the suspect exits the frame of that camera.

And at 12:00:26, 12:00:26, the suspect finally enters the frame of the next camera and is passing the far gate on the east side of the pool.

So, they go out of a frame at 12:00:06 and come back into a frame at 12:00:26.

Do the simple math and there is 20 seconds of time that the suspect isn’t shown. Why? Well, that’s a good question. I have a hard time believing that there wasn’t a camera angle that covered the majority of the pool area—the angle that is missing.

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Transcript @ about 21:08 minutes:
Shaun: And this led to my second question—I wanted to know about the time stamps. Would there be separate time stamps on separate cameras that could possibly be out of sync?

And again he told me, in 2006, these cameras would have been connected to a central recorder. They wouldn’t have had their own timer or their own time stamps.

This central recorder would have recorded all the time stamps. So, all these different cameras—they would have used the same timer on the same recorder.

And so, to answer my question: yes, all of those time stamps—they would have matched up.

This was important, because, if I wanted to compare and analyze the times of these stamps between different cameras, I needed to know that they were all kind of ticking at the same time.

For me this was confirmation that there was a missing 20 seconds of time.

Link to video of both snipped transcripts: https://audioboom.com/posts/5969730-person-of-interest

I have seen the video where he's walking but it's been many years and was so dark I couldn't make anything out. I didn't even try to look at the video hard until last year, I spent a few hours on it. I don't recall where I downloaded it from. I focused on the relative height standing next to car to get another perspective of height.

You know, I--in my own bumbling way--gave that some thought, too. I find the best shots occur as he walks in front of the pool. He's tall.

You are saying re-entered CAM3 at 12:00:26 and I don't know where you are getting that number. The only thing I have are three still images released by OPD and the time stamp on first two is 13:00:27 (it is known the cameras were an hour ahead)

If you click on the small image I added in my comment, do you get an enlarged version where you can read the timestamp of 13:00:26?

I'll add it again, right below the video--it is not one of the stills. It is an actual screenshot that I captured as the video ran. I didn't even pause it because I couldn't get it paused at the right time. (Through no lack of trying). If you watch the video below, you should see it at around the 24 second mark:

[video=youtube;7pnHBqFOstY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pnHBqFOstY&feature=youtu.be[/video]

The two images on jenniferkesse.com are the images from the surviellance camera released by OPD. I am the only one who has released/posted enhancements (mine were enlargements and adjusting brightness/contrast). There is no enhancement to replace the camera stills by a third party that I'm aware of. At the very least both the original and enhanced would be provided as of course I do on the POI Blowups page.

Understood and agree.

I'm only discussing an actual YouTube video. I compared the two images on jenniferkesse.com (but I viewed them on a different site, but the same images) with the YouTube video as I was running it. I only did this to help me understand what I was seeing on the YouTube video. One of the things I was checking for was the time and the other was the camera number.

Due to the length of my comment--for which I apologize--I have respectfully snipped the last paragraph of your comment. I will post it as "respectfully snipped" to address only that portion and respond to it soon.

 

[MaryG12]

A comment mentioned the security guard stephen duxbury who killed a woman in her . stephen duxbury also worked at North bridge apts in mellania mall area where jennifer used to live !!!
It's like 2-3 min away !!!
If he doesn't match the poi maybe he payed someone to drive the car and parked it, maybe a stranger or illegal worker.

Yes, that was me. And I honestly came across that 2015 case accidentally through a Google search - I wanted to see if there were any other murder/disappearing persons cases involving a security guard or someone dressed up as a security guard.

I tried to find height/weight info for duxbury, couldn't find anything concrete. Here's a picture, he looks a lot more 'husky' than the perp in the video, fwiw.
http://www.wftv.com/news/local/security-guard-accused-raping-killing-woman-booked/26975332

I too tried located his height and weight but no luck.


Wow.


And Duxbury also worked as security guard where Jennifer used to live at Northbridge Apartments.


Too much of a coincidence?


Hopefully some sort of lead to go on!

 

[shelly111]

As i mentioned above Stephen Duxbury worked as security guard in Northbridge apts in millenia mall area .
It is very close to where jennifer lived and it is also very close
to where Michelle Parker's car was found

 

[Myserty64]

So, there seems to be 20 seconds of missing video of the POI.

Could it be part of information held back by LE?
I've wondered also if there is other video, not from HOTG, that LE hold.

Also I cannot understand why the phone pings are not taken more seriously by some. Especially in view of the wondrous info posted here by RD.

 

[rd_jfc]

I don't think so. I think I'm just doing a poor job trying to explain myself.

Like everything else about this case, there are different POI videos. They are not all identical. Besides the one I linked in my original comment, I also sometimes watch one that only goes to 13:00:00--and then switches to Cam 3 but the clock does not show (nor does it state Cam 3 footage is being shown).

That really added to my confusion for the longest time.

Another thing that varies greatly in the various videos is the clarity of the POI parking Jenn's vehicle in the parking spot. In some, it is so blurry I can't even see anything until he starts walking. In others, I can clearly see him driving the car in, backing the car up, driving the car in again, and count the 32 seconds before he exits Jenn's vehicle.

The link I gave is one that is not clear at the start, but I chose it because it keeps the clock running, and shows when we are watching Cam 2 and when we are watching Cam 3.


Yes, this is correct. I regret doing that now. I decided that everyone probably knew about the hour time difference; so I thought it would make it easier to just put in the correct times. It was a bad decision.

When I decided to add my image, I did do some snipped transcriptions from the Unconcluded podcast video to support my locations, etc. I opted not to add them as I thought it would make my comment too long. While I highly recommend that everyone should watch the whole video, maybe the snipped transcripts will help; so I'll add a few:

(Also you will note that the podcast host has given the correct times; however, he asks everyone who watches to only pay attention to the seconds. He does explain about the hour difference, though).

Transcript @ about 18:50 minutes:
Shaun: So, the video starts with the POI driving Jennifer’s car into the parking lot behind the pool. They back up; pull back in; wait 32 seconds; and then get out of the car.

You’ll notice that the person exits the car at 11:59:45.

By 11:59:53, the suspect has rounded the corner of the pool and is walking past the hot tub.

By noon on the dot, that’s 12:00:00, they’re about 1/3 of the way past the pool.

And by 12:00:06, that is 12:00:06, the suspect exits the frame of that camera.

And at 12:00:26, 12:00:26, the suspect finally enters the frame of the next camera and is passing the far gate on the east side of the pool.

So, they go out of a frame at 12:00:06 and come back into a frame at 12:00:26.

Do the simple math and there is 20 seconds of time that the suspect isn’t shown. Why? Well, that’s a good question. I have a hard time believing that there wasn’t a camera angle that covered the majority of the pool area—the angle that is missing.

____________________​

Transcript @ about 21:08 minutes:
Shaun: And this led to my second question—I wanted to know about the time stamps. Would there be separate time stamps on separate cameras that could possibly be out of sync?

And again he told me, in 2006, these cameras would have been connected to a central recorder. They wouldn’t have had their own timer or their own time stamps.

This central recorder would have recorded all the time stamps. So, all these different cameras—they would have used the same timer on the same recorder.

And so, to answer my question: yes, all of those time stamps—they would have matched up.

This was important, because, if I wanted to compare and analyze the times of these stamps between different cameras, I needed to know that they were all kind of ticking at the same time.

For me this was confirmation that there was a missing 20 seconds of time.

Link to video of both snipped transcripts: https://audioboom.com/posts/5969730-person-of-interest


You know, I--in my own bumbling way--gave that some thought, too. I find the best shots occur as he walks in front of the pool. He's tall.

If you click on the small image I added in my comment, do you get an enlarged version where you can read the timestamp of 13:00:26?

I'll add it again, right below the video--it is not one of the stills. It is an actual screenshot that I captured as the video ran. I didn't even pause it because I couldn't get it paused at the right time. (Through no lack of trying). If you watch the video below, you should see it at around the 24 second mark:

[video=youtube;7pnHBqFOstY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pnHBqFOstY&feature=youtu.be[/video]

View attachment 130700

Understood and agree.

I'm only discussing an actual YouTube video. I compared the two images on jenniferkesse.com (but I viewed them on a different site, but the same images) with the YouTube video as I was running it. I only did this to help me understand what I was seeing on the YouTube video. One of the things I was checking for was the time and the other was the camera number.

Due to the length of my comment--for which I apologize--I have respectfully snipped the last paragraph of your comment. I will post it as "respectfully snipped" to address only that portion and respond to it soon.

Please, snip away for brevity. You'll be doing all of us a favor.

I understood all of that, answered all my questions. I didn't know about the central recorder providing the timestamps, that's very helpful. So was your snip of transcript.

I have to just pause though at "why wasn't every angle covered with surveillance cameras?" I don't want to be too harsh on people providing useful information but that's unbelievably unrealistic. They have a camera covering the entrance and luckily where the car was parked, it covers walking mostly around the pool. The have another camera that's covering the pool gate that picks him up after he gets that far around the pool.

The question isn't what about the 20 second, the question is what about the, I don't know, the 30 some feet gap not covered? It's feet, not seconds. Thte fact that it took him 20 seconds to cover maybe less that 40 feet says he quit walking. For starters, you can toss out that ridiculous "walked away and never looked back" nonsense. We know he stopped and looked back when he got to the tree.

It appears that after he got around the pool and reasonably out of sight and disconnected from the car that he was checking if anyone was noticing. He did the same thing when he got past the pool gate to the tree. I just don't see why anyone would be surprised. It also completely eliminates some unknowing person parking the car with the mindset of a parking lot attendant. This guy was planting the car and didn't want to be connected to it. That's clear to me from the pauses he took walking away.

Very helpful, Truth. Thanks very much.

 

[shelly111]

walden palms apts is where michelle parker car was found and is 4 minutes away from Northbridge.
the police need to check Stephen duxbury in connection to michelle parker and jennifer kesse