GUILTY FL - Kaitlyn Hunt for statutory rape of 14yo girl, Vero Beach, 2013

[SMK]

is there something mentally 'off' with Hunt?

I mean no disrespect but her wording in the text and her demeanor just seems a bit strange to me ...

I noticed this as well. And there is in fact something predatory about her texts, and the moving images she chose to send to the minor child she was ordered to stay away from ( a moving image from the waist down - identified as Kaitlyn Hunt by the tattoos - of her masturbating, with moaning in the background.) To me, this seems less about "young love" and more about sexual coercion. But maybe that's just me. I may be out of touch with what passes for romancing in this pornified era.

 

[SMK]

You have to love how she blamed the victim, too. It's the victim's fault, she tattled, she's messed up.

Yeah, okay.

I agree with y'all, I've been thinking since I read the full case that something's not quite right with KH

Right, she said *advertiser censored** you to the minor, she said she was an idiot who "wanted her in jail"- she ought to have said, as the older girl, "I was foolish; not your fault."

 

[Flossie JMO]

Sorry I should have clarified in my post last night - age of consent is 14 in many other countries (I said places, guess not specific enough) in Western Europe.

Btw still waiting to hear what "gay rage" is. I hope the OP, or anyone in agreement with him/her pops in to clarify.

The situation in this case would be legal in Canada.

 

[SMK]

The situation in this case would be legal in Canada.

Then that gives one food for thought.
If Canada and many European countries list the age of consent as 14, it would seem that there may be some good reason for that, and that the US is out of step with the times, as it were. Ethics ought to be universal, and laws as well. Otherwise, it is simply relative.

 

[jjenny]

Then that gives one food for thought.
If Canada and many European countries list the age of consent as 14, it would seem that there may be some good reason for that, and that the US is out of step with the times, as it were. Ethics ought to be universal, and laws as well. Otherwise, it is simply relative.

In some countries old men marry 11 year old. I guess we better get on with the times.

 

[Flossie JMO]

Then that gives one food for thought.
If Canada and many European countries list the age of consent as 14, it would seem that there may be some good reason for that, and that the US is out of step with the times, as it were. Ethics ought to be universal, and laws as well. Otherwise, it is simply relative.

Canada has 16 as the age, but with exceptions, which would cover this case, ie a 14 year old and 18 year old, the close in age provision, ie less than 5 years older and not in a position of authority. Let me try and get a link for you.

 

[fruity]

Speaking as someone with a teenager, no, 100 texts in a day is not excessive but i think it really depends on context and the person the texts are being exchanged with. My 16 yr old son lets me check his phone to make sure everything is fine, and many of his texts are about homework or are very short. They text as if it's a conversation. I would never copy his texts over, but a recent conversation between him and his girlfriend looked like this:

Wd (yes I had to ask what this meant)
Hw (homework)
For what?
Maths
??? (Apparently this means 'I didn't know we had maths homework')
Page?
42
Ok (though usually it's just 'k')
What qs
2 & 5
Finished geography?
Y! Finally
Sucked

It went on and on and on like that.

 

[jjenny]

Canada has 16 as the age, but with exceptions, which would cover this case, ie a 14 year old and 18 year old, the close in age provision, ie less than 5 years older and not in a position of authority. Let me try and get a link for you.

She isn't in Canada, and she was ordered by the court to not communicate with the minor.
Which she apparently ignored, and continued on communicating with the minor, sending minor photos and videos, and meeting minor in person.

 

[Gardenlady]

Speaking as someone with a teenager, no, 100 texts in a day is not excessive but i think it really depends on context and the person the texts are being exchanged with. My 16 yr old son lets me check his phone to make sure everything is fine, and many of his texts are about homework or are very short. They text as if it's a conversation. I would never copy his texts over, but a recent conversation between him and his girlfriend looked like this:

Wd (yes I had to ask what this meant)
Hw (homework)
For what?
Maths
??? (Apparently this means 'I didn't know we had maths homework')
Page?
42
Ok (though usually it's just 'k')
What qs
2 & 5
Finished geography?
Y! Finally
Sucked

It went on and on and on like that.

LOL looks like both my teens' text streams... I'd say a good 3/4 of the messages are less than three words. Adds up fast!

 

[Gardenlady]

She isn't in Canada, and she was ordered by the court to not communicate with the minor.
Which she apparently ignored, and continued on communicating with the minor, sending minor photos and videos, and meeting minor in person.

We know she isn't in Canada. I think the poster is just adding to the larger question/general issue that has been discussed throughout the thread.

 

[SMK]

In some countries old men marry 11 year old. I guess we better get on with the times.

Are these modern, Western democracies?

 

[rossva]

And in some countries old women marry 11 year olds.

In some countries old men marry 11 year old. I guess we better get on with the times.

 

[Karmady]

And in some countries old women marry 11 year olds.

Can you give an example of this practice -- serious question.

 

[Flutterby80]

Okay. So here are the court papers. This states that the "couch", I'm sure they mean "coach", and students and other staff approached the Smiths to inform them about the relationship with Kaitlyn and their daughter on Feb. 7th, in the evening at a basketball game. Why in the world did all these people come en masse? Students, teachers, and the "couch".

THEN, the Smiths go to the police and report and file charges on morning of Feb. 8th. Where is the time frame for them to have warned Kaitlyn twice? Maybe I'm missing something, and they did warn them they didn't want her around before, but they didn't appear to know about a sexual relationship until about 12 hours before they went to the police.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2013/images/05/24/indian.river.county.report.summary.pdf


And now, it's "game on". Are the Smiths willing to throw their own daughter under the bus to accomplish ruining Kaitlyn's life? They are quoted saying they thought this would all be over by now (I guess that it would have been quick and neat and clean to destroy Kaitlyn, sad its gotten a little more difficult than they'd hoped). Game on. I'm really looking forward to seeing whether they choose to stick their daughter on the stand at this point. My guess is she is REALLY not willing. So. Are they willing to further harm their daughter in their goal to ruin Kaitlyn?

I'm not seeing this as the parents trying to ruin anyone. If my 14 year old daughter was in a sexual relationship with an adult male OR female, you bet I would get police involved if that is what it took to end it. No question. No qualms.

 

[rosesfromangels]

I guess people don;t see women as predatory as men.

Here's the thing, I don;t think she is necessarily being persecuted for being gay. And anyone who knows me knows I am a HUGE supporter of gay rights, marriage equality and I am 100% against discrimination of any kind.

There have been various cases of young men who are prosecuted for the very same thing. Although in most of the cases they have been black so I don;t know. Maybe there is an element of prejudice involved in the decision as to who is going to be prosecuted.

But I think much of the outrage has to do with the length of the possible sentence. I think 15 years is far too harsh for statutory rape involving two teens who are no more than five years apart in age. I think a possible sentence should depend on the difference in ages and the level of coercion but if it is simply statutory rape without much of an imbalance in power, I think in most cases, any prison time, perhaps even any jail time would be too harsh.

That being said, the parents of the 14 year old involved told the accused to stop on several occasions. She ignored them and then helped the 14 year old to run away. The parents were worried because the 14 year old was exhibiting behavioral changes and due to the four year difference.

Four years developmentally is a huge deal at that age. It really bothers me that the parents of the 14 year old repeatedly told the 18 year old to stay away and they were ignored. Yes, they perhaps could have called the parents of the 18 year old but they were scared for their daughter and only involved the authorities as a last resort (in their minds).

I would be horrified if my 14 year old son or daughter was having sex, especially with someone so much older. One of my best, childhood friend's son began a "relationship" at age 14, with a 30 year old female roommate of his father. He was "in love" and had a sexual relationship on and off for years. My friend didn't discover it until her son was 18.

Her son is now a heroin addict with serious anxiety disorder. His life fell apart after that woman began a relationship with him. (BTW, the authorities either could not or would not prosecute her after the fact).

It is not okay for young teens to have sex. It is very much not okay for them to have sex with someone more than two years older, IMO. Then, an imbalance of power is typical which allows such kids to be manipulated, coerced and victimized.

I would be beside myself with anguish if some 18 year old of either sex was having sex with my 14 year old and then coercing them to leave the home, or helping them to run away and break the rules. I would be terrified and furious - really, how dare they? - and would do everything in my power to keep such a person away from my child.

What senior wants to date a freshmen anyhow? Someone with problems, IMO, that make it hard to relate to someone their own age.

Your last point is what really stands out for me. What 18 year old wants to hang out with, let alone date a 14 year old? Definitely sounds like the 18 year old has some developmental issues....at minimum. Sad case all around.

 

[gitana1]

You have to love how she blamed the victim, too. It's the victim's fault, she tattled, she's messed up.

Yeah, okay.

I agree with y'all, I've been thinking since I read the full case that something's not quite right with KH

I thought something was off with her from the beginning. I felt she was somewhat predatory and manipulative. In any event, she has finally accepted a plea deal. I think it;s worse than the last one:

Under the new plea deal, Hunt will plead no contest to five charges, including two counts of misdemeanor battery, misdemeanor contributing to the dependency of a child and two counts of felony interference with child custody, according to a copy of the plea deal provided to CNN by Workman, who is an assistant state attorney.
Under the terms of the agreement, Hunt would be sentenced to four months in jail, to be followed by two years of house arrest with electronic monitoring, and nine months of monitored probation after that, he said earlier.
If she has no violations, she will not be a convicted felon under Florida law, and she will have the possibility of sealing her file and having the case expunged after 10 years, he said. http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/02/justice/florida-gay-teen-kaitlyn-hunt-case/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

The last deal offered and rejected:

A Florida teen accused of unlawfully having sex with her underage girlfriend has been offered a new plea deal that would spare her jail time and registration as a sex offender but adds a felony count to her charges.
According to the deal Kaitlyn Hunt, who was 18 when she had sex with her then 14-year-old girlfriend she met at Sebastian River High School in 2012, would have to plead no contest to two counts of battery and one felony count of interference with child custody.

Under this latest plea deal, Hunt would not only escape jail time, but would not have to register as a sex offender or wear an ankle bracelet, according to a copy of the conditional plea offer, dated Aug. 9. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ge-girlfriend-article-1.1427480#ixzz2gcqyJceW

I still remember her weeping in her dad's arms talking about how scared she was, and how she was terrified of going to prison and all she did was have a teen romance, and then she went and sent hundreds upon hundreds of texts to her underage statutory rape victim, including graphic ones of her masturbating? I think this gal may need some therapy to learn what is appropriate behavior and what's not. In any event, a couple of months in jail seems to have shown her that the deal wasn't so bad after all. Hopefully she will learn to stay away from underage kids from now on. But I have a feeling she may face a restraining order or two one day. She seems obsessive to me.

 

[jjenny]

Well I sure hope that she won't contact the 14 year old again.

 

[popsicle]

This was on 20/20 last night. That girl has issues as does her Mom imo.

http://watchabc.go.com/2020/SH559026/VDKA0_hhk7s03r/2020-1004-out-of-bounds

 

[BeginnersLuck]

This was on 20/20 last night. That girl has issues as does her Mom imo.

http://watchabc.go.com/2020/SH559026/VDKA0_hhk7s03r/2020-1004-out-of-bounds

I watched the video. They didn't talk about Kaitlyn's predatory behavior after the fact, when it was clear that Kaitlyn knew she had committed a crime and had been told to stay away from the victim.

 

[EmmaliLucia]

I saw the preview for the 20/20 episode,

They were like "She could get thirty years for a high school romance!"

I don't normally throw things at TVs, but I'm glad my shoe wasn't hard enough to break the screen.