Found Deceased FL - Lane Graves, 2, Walt Disney World, 14 June 2016 #1

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Eloise said:
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This is the sign, for reference.
And that's zoomed in. It's quite short.

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But it's set up like a beach? Of course little ones will want to put their toes in the water. I imagine the parents (being from Nebraska and probably not very familiar with gators) didn't think twice about the kids putting their feet in the water. How very sad.
 
Eloise said:
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This is the sign, for reference.
And that's zoomed in. It's quite short.

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Well I'm laying the blame fair and square at Disney. It's a tourist Mecca, for people that know nothing about gators, aimed at children. And that's the safety precautions they take? :gaah:
 
keyleigh said:
Well I'm laying the blame fair and square at Disney. It's a tourist Mecca, for people that know nothing about gators, aimed at children. And that's the safety precautions they take? :gaah:
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Yes, I'm surprised tbh. I've been not to Florida, but to Far North Queensland, where every animal is trying to kill you, and there are signs warning you of the box jellyfish and crocodiles and everything else absolutely everywhere.
The lack of signage surprises me. I had vague knowledge about their being alligators in Florida, and if I went to Disney I'd assume the lack of signage about them meant it was safe there. It's Disney, after all.
 
keyleigh said:
Well I'm laying the blame fair and square at Disney. It's a tourist Mecca, for people that know nothing about gators, aimed at children. And that's the safety precautions they take? :gaah:
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There is more than that one sign, actually.

I don't remember which resort it was, but there is at least one that gives you rules upon check in. A rule is very specific to stay out of the water. We have stayed in several resorts, so I can't remember which one.

With all that said, I totally hear what you are saying!!
 
I am off to bed but I'm not sure how well I'll be able to sleep. I am from Nebraska, vacation to WDW, and I have a 2 year old son. It's truly heartbreaking. I will be praying for this family in the hours, days, weeks, etc. to come.
 
AmyPond said:
I saw a photo online that showed a sign that simply says "no swimming."

For what it's worth....years ago, swimming WAS allowed in the Seven Seas Lagoon, I think. And even now, you can water ski in Bay Lake which is connected to Seven Seas Lagoon. https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/recreation/waterskiing/
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Yes,in the mid/late seventies you could.My dad worked at a beach hut and me and my sister spent summers at the pool and lake.
 
AmyPond said:
I am off to bed but I'm not sure how well I'll be able to sleep. I am from Nebraska, vacation to WDW, and I have a 2 year old son. It's truly heartbreaking. I will be praying for this family in the hours, days, weeks, etc. to come.
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We vacation there, as well. We are planning another one currently. There is so much excitement and magic, I can't imagine this happening at such an innocently joyful place. It's awful.
 
Eloise said:
Yes, I'm surprised tbh. I've been not to Florida, but to Far North Queensland, where every animal is trying to kill you, and there are signs warning you of the box jellyfish and crocodiles and everything else absolutely everywhere.
The lack of signage surprises me. I had vague knowledge about their being alligators in Florida, and if I went to Disney I'd assume the lack of signage about them meant it was safe there. It's Disney, after all.
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Yes! Its like the canals on the Gold Coast. Tourists are warned by everyone about the bull sharks.
 
Sometimes, awful things happen and no one is to blame.
Anyone who has been to Disney is well-aware that they err on the side of caution (and avoidance of litigation) in every situation - sometimes maddeningly so, to even the mildest, remotely possible threat or danger. It is impossible to control and limit the presence of gators.
It sucks to be in Orlando this week but in this instance, I am very, very sad about a tragic attack by a wild animal, but I cannot join the blame brigade.
 
keyleigh said:
Well I'm laying the blame fair and square at Disney. It's a tourist Mecca, for people that know nothing about gators, aimed at children. And that's the safety precautions they take? :gaah:
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I am sure Disney patrols for gators and has other means for protection.You can not cover everything,there is nature everywhere in Florida.If Disney did nothing than we would hear of this more.The signs were posted and ignored.
 
blue22 said:
There is more than that one sign, actually. I don't remember which resort it was, but there is at least one that gives you rules upon check in. A rule is very specific to stay out of the water. We have stayed in several resorts, so I can't remember which one.
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I wonder if guests have to sign a copy of the rules when they check in?
 
eucalyptuz said:
Sometimes, awful things happen and no one is to blame.
Anyone who has been to Disney is well-aware had they err on the side of caution (and avoidance of litigation) in every situation - sometimes maddeningly so, to even the mildest, remotely possible threat or danger. It is impossible to control and limit the presence of gators.
It sucks to be in Orlando this week but in this instance, I am very, very sad about a tragic attack by a wild animal, but I cannot join the blame brigade.
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I agree. Sometimes, horrible random things happen. It's like our culture needs to vilify someone, no matter the circumstances.
 
cuffem said:
The signs were posted and ignored.
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I only see a small sign saying "no swimming". Is there more specific signage somewhere else in the resort? Because I wouldn't classify being in 1 foot of water as swimming.
I've seen signs here in certain areas where all water contact is a bad idea, and they say "no swimming or wading", or they give specific warnings about why you can't enter the water. (e.g. crocodiles, venomous jellyfish, etc)
I think tourists who may have no idea about alligator behaviour do need more specific warnings.
 
Sometimes it's not about blame. It's about making things safer for others. I haven't been to Disney World (I'm a Disneyland girl myself). All I've seen is the photo posted up thread. It appears there is one tiny sign that say's no swimming on about a football field length of beach. All I'm saying is that more signage wouldn't hurt. Especially if it can save another little ones life.
 
danielkk said:
I wonder if guests have to sign a copy of the rules when they check in?
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I don't believe so. They might not even give rules currently.. It's been a while since I've stayed in those particular resorts.

But with getting there, checking in, wrangling kids, being tired, hungry, etc. It would be very easy to forget the rules you read when you first get there. I was not intending to suggest the parents were flippant with rules. I think this was a terrible tragedy. I can't imagine the trauma they have experienced.
 
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