IMO, whatever happened, it was in the home. why else would he discard her belongings at 7:35am if she left for somewhere on her own? yes, you are correct, LE has not said where the murder occurred. if they know definitely.
agree, I feel strongly she was murdered in the home. If she were murdered elsewhere why on earth would SS have returned to the complex hauling her dead body in his passenger seat? MOO she died at home, was carried out to the car and propped up in the passenger seat. SS drove to the hotel to use their parking garage to move the body to the trunk.
and the 'gate clicker' story....RETURNING.
thank you, good points. however, initial LE presser they said 'they believed he moved her body in the early morning hours'. this leads me to believe this was before sunrise, still dark. and we now know he moved her a second time, from the seat to the trunk in the parking garage.Oh I absolutely agree with you. All I believe is
Maddie was alive at 830pm on Sunday night.
By Monday morning she was seen deceased in the passenger side of the vehicle.
I have a sense she was killed in a vehicle. Carrying a dead body from the condo to a car in the broad morning daylight??? I know neighbors keep to themselves these days.. but that is bordering on fantastical..
I'm looking at pages 554 and 555.
Evidence and Property Report
Samples and swabs from the Nissan. That's whose car???
• Trunk mat
• Pillowcase
• Pocket knife
• Trace filter from seats in the upholstery
Looks like it's a vacuum that takes and stores small particles from a crime scene.Forensic Trace Evidence Vacuum Filter - Atrix
Forensic Trace Evidence vacuum filter with bag, and utility tool which is compatible with the Atrix VACOS-F or VACOS-220F Omega forensic vacuums.atrix.com
• Soooo many swabs
• one hair from under passenger seat
At this point I think she was killed in the Nissan.
Notably
TWO SWABS FROM STAIN ON INTERIOR FRONT DRIVER DOOR JAMB
STAIN?? What stain? Why would there be a stain on a door jamb? Did someone injure a hand?
Well, he might not have retired at the same time as him mom which wouldn't surprise me in the least. She also said "she" was already in bed, not "we" (Pg 875). But if that's the case, I hope they interviewed him. From what I can make out from the redacted interviews, the son, 15 yo teen, or "other roommate" wasn't interviewed. From the best that I can determine we have interviews with:What 15 year-old boy goes to bed at 8:45 unless he is sick though?
Was the other teen home Sunday night? If so, you're really telling me he was locked in his room with his mom that early and never came out? No snacks? Bathroom?
It's possible the mom was tired and/or didn't like SS, just wanted privacy, etc. but yeah....doesn't add up to me either how conveniently everyone just "goes to bed, and that was it." in this house.
I thought the Nissan was JS's car. That's IF JS's car is the one the K9 Archer hit on the wheel well. Pg 55:
I believe the reference to moving her body in the early morning hours was when he was caught on video doing just that at 9:40am in the hotel garage. I doubt they caught him moving her body twice. MOO
That makes total sense and it would have to be his. LE only has interest in their 3 cars.
SS car was the Lincoln.
I think your on to something (thinking she was killed in the car). I’ve been wondering how he would’ve moved the body to the car, even though I know he CAN, without it being on camera. And if he had moved her to the car from the apartment, why would there be no video of it? We’ve seen other videos from the apartment.Oh I absolutely agree with you. All I believe is
Maddie was alive at 830pm on Sunday night.
By Monday morning she was seen deceased in the passenger side of the vehicle.
I have a sense she was killed in a vehicle. Carrying a dead body from the condo to a car in the broad morning daylight??? I know neighbors keep to themselves these days.. but that is bordering on fantastical..
I'm looking at pages 554 and 555.
Evidence and Property Report
Samples and swabs from the Nissan. That's whose car???
• Trunk mat
• Pillowcase
• Pocket knife
• Trace filter from seats in the upholstery
Looks like it's a vacuum that takes and stores small particles from a crime scene.Forensic Trace Evidence Vacuum Filter - Atrix
Forensic Trace Evidence vacuum filter with bag, and utility tool which is compatible with the Atrix VACOS-F or VACOS-220F Omega forensic vacuums.
• Soooo many swabs
• one hair from under passenger seat
At this point I think she was killed in the Nissan.
Notably
TWO SWABS FROM STAIN ON INTERIOR FRONT DRIVER DOOR JAMB
STAIN?? What stain? Why would there be a stain on a door jamb? Did someone injure a hand?
Well, if they had not seen SS since their arrival in Dec 2023 until "approximately a week ago"... that puts him there at JS home WELL before MS was killed. Looked at the calendar, a week prior to the 28th of Feb was Feb 21 - which would have been the day before MS actual 13th bday. And even if off by a few days, if MS was staying at her gran's the week before the party, why was that? Was it because JS had to work? Was it because MS didn't want to risk sharing space with SS? Maybe she had hoped that SS would be GONE by the time her aunt brought her home the night of the party, and maybe she wasn't, "sooo happy" to see him there? Time will tell.....
The Lincoln was SS's father's car. Pg 91:
Except JS lied and SS lied when they said when he arrived, because... the neighbor places him there approximately a week before MS was killed. SOURCE: screenshot in post above.
I believe the White Nissan belongs to JS. NOt sure about a third car..
I'd think if we have JS's car, and SS's dad's... it stands to reason the 3rd would be SS's car. Da hooptie! lol
Exactly. She was outside the school for an HOUR and goes to Gran's office after waiting ten mins to see if MS was at gran's. HOw would MS have gotten out of the building so early that she beat her to the office in the first place, and without being seen by JS at that?? I mapped it out. It is about 22-25 minutes walk from MS school to where her gran worked which I noticed on the bodycam footage dated Feb 25, 2024 when the officer first spoke with JS et al. So EVEN if MS had somehow escaped the school without being seen by JS (which she clearly didn't as she wasn't even there all day)... she could NOT have reasonably made it to Gran's before mum did anyhow.
If you're going to try to claim the kid went missing on route to school, you simply cannot leave her backpack and school laptop at home, can ya? That's a dead giveaway that she never went to school to begin with. So. IMO... he dumped them in an effort to conceal that she was already dead and gone and had already decided he was going with the whole she didn't make it to school because she ran off or was abducted crap.
