No, where did you hear that?Does anyone know about new documents that came out today ?
Stephan Sterns Jail File and Supplemental Report
I agree 100%, I am shocked they have the option not to show up. How does that work? whats the reasoning behind it?
No, where did you hear that?
I see that both cases have a status hearing on 10/14. Interesting that they are both held at the same time. When they had the pretrails they were at different times on the same day (10am & 1:30pm). Seems kinda odd to me since they are different cases.
Murder: STATUS HEARING SET FOR 10/14/2024 AT 9:00 AM IN 4F BEFORE JUDGE: CARSTEN, KEITH
CSAM: STATUS HEARING SET FOR 10/14/2024 AT 9:00 AM IN 4F BEFORE JUDGE: CARSTEN, KEITH
OK for the safety of the court, I can live with. Anything to do with his rights after he left a little girl in a field all alone for 4 days, would feel retraumatizing for the family. I get when they dont want to hear the details of the things they dont know, ( like in Delphi and that doc leak) but this family wont be surprised at what they hear, I dont think.
Thanks, ttjo! Some things I noted from the live thread you posted (I can't give a timestamp since it's still live while I'm gathering SS's).
IDK why he went back, but isnt jenn the one that informed L/e about him " going to look for her" in the middle of the night? At first I thought maybe he took her car to implicate her, but his car had a flat, I dont think it was changed yet, because didnt he say to the detective " dont pay attention to that donut on my car" Maybe after he hurt his finger, he gave up.What do you guys make of this? It’s hard to read the SS so I’ll type it out (SS is my proof I’m not makin’ this up).
Based on an LPR hit on the Nissan on 02/27/24, also at St. Cloud Commons and another on Academy Srive, the same path the Lincoln took, I again followed the route of the vehicle using indicators on the trim package of the car, the travel times and marker vehicles. At 0316:15 hours, the white Nissan exits the complex utilizing the main gate. The vehicle follows the same path the Lincoln followed the previous day, with the exception of utilizing the front gate of the complex.
Proof from GH's live video:
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"the same path the Lincoln took" was on 2/26, the day he dumped her body, now JS's car is following "the same path".
Why return to where Maddie was at 3:30am... and why take JS's car to do whatever that was? Did he go alone? Or was JS with him to pay a visit to her daughter? Perhaps JS’s car made that trip because she was doing the driving and I'm thinking she'd be more comfortable driving her own car.
All that is speculation and a guess on my part why JS's car made that trip in the middle of the night the day after she went missing (so essentially Monday evening if you haven't gone to bed yet).
He and others appear to have gotten their hands on a supplemental report, as well as copies of emails between SS and his mom and dad, and a supplemental correction.What are these new documents from Grey Hughes? Additional Incident Report documentation from investigators? I don't remember hearing about so many dumpster stops before, even though those would definitely have been in the same surveillance footage as the dumpster stops we already knew about.
JS can really only be guilty here if SS is also guilty. So I infer that SS's mother believes that SS did in fact kill MS, but that a lot of the blame should go on JS. I don't think that could just mean JS knew about the sexual abuse and knew about the murder and maybe even helped cover it up. It seems to me she thinks that whatever JS's involvement is should somehow lessen SS's culpability. I can't imagine what that would be. If anyone in this thread has a hypothesis for JS that could at all reduce SS's legal responsibility, please share!She said, "We all know (blank) was heavily involved in this, and I am disgusted that she is free and you are not when this is not all your fault. You need to think about yourself more and her less. She sure isn't thinking of you and how she can help you right now. That whole family is willing to stay quiet and let you take the fall for everything."
She goes on to say, "I think of the craziness (blank) lived through with (blanks) various partners... Not a stable life at all for a child. I do pray for (blank) and you daily."
wonder why he went back there? k9 only alerted on the outside? so sounds like she was already there. maybe he did change her clothes? or left something there? Pretty risky to go back.What are these new documents from Grey Hughes? Additional Incident Report documentation from investigators? I don't remember hearing about so many dumpster stops before, even though those would definitely have been in the same surveillance footage as the dumpster stops we already knew about.
Click Orlando has some new information about the tracking of JS's Nissan, but doesn't show the documents: 2 cars visited area where 13-year-old Madeline Soto’s body was found, detectives claim
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The yellow shows the path the Nissan appears to have taken in the early hours (03:16) of February 27th. The red was the path that the Lincoln took on February 26th. So the tiny bits of red showing is meant to illustrate they took nearly the same path. Records indicate the Nissan stayed in the Old Hickory area for a half hour before returning to the Venetian Bay Villages at 04:30.
As a reminder, a K9 trained to alert for human remains did not alert on the Lincoln, but did alert on the Nissan by the rear passenger wheel well (pg. 53). SS said he and JS stayed local and he did not go driving looking for MS anywhere on the night of the 26th, and that he had taken Ativan and tranquilizers because of panic attacks (pg. 31). JS said that they looked in the Hunter's Creek area and returned at 20:00 or 21:00, and when asked if they went out again said SS took her car out in the middle of the night (pg. 33). JS's vehicle drove on US-192 on February 27th at 03:27-04:27 and on February 28th at 04:41-10:55 (pg. 35).
Yeah, returning to the scene of where you left a dead body hours before is more than a tad odd. And in the middle of the night, no less.wonder why he went back there? k9 only alerted on the outside? so sounds like she was already there. maybe he did change her clothes? or left something there? Pretty risky to go back.
I dont have a hypothesis, I just dont know how the mom would know anything about what she is implying. heavily involved in what? what did she know? I say it's a bluff. I dont know if she is serious, thats a lot of info to dump in an email that you know someone will read ( authorities) someone else I read suggested that maybe it was written on purpose to create some doubt . I mean hes grasping at straws at this point.So I infer that SS's mother believes that SS did in fact kill MS, but that a lot of the blame should go on JS. I don't think that could just mean JS knew about the sexual abuse and knew about the murder and maybe even helped cover it up. It seems to me she thinks that whatever JS's involvement is should somehow lessen SS's culpability. I can't imagine what that would be. If anyone in this thread has a hypothesis for JS that could at all reduce SS's legal responsibility, please share!