Thanks again for uploading all of this, @Mack the Knife.
One thing that keeps sticking in my mind when I've seen this mentioned are the texts the night when Maddie is sent to sleep in the same room as SS. (Yellow highlighting mine.) He refers to Maddie as building a nest for sleeping & I keep thinking that she has tucked herself in with pillows, blankets, or whatever else in an effort to "build a wall" around herself for protection. Kwim? Totally MOO but it's the image that keeps popping up in my head. All of this makes me sad for Maddie but somehow this really underlines it for me. She was living with a shark or sharks & was trying to protect herself so she could sleep. Imo.
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especially if she took medication also. She told the cop she needed to be medicated and needed to sleep.OK I have a question.
If JS needed sleep so badly--and insomnia is my old friend--why was she still awake 40 minutes after supposedly sending them upstairs?
Even with her logic that she was selfish and needed to sleep why wouldn't she go in the so called guest bedroom with the smaller bed?especially if she took medication also. She told the cop she needed to be medicated and needed to sleep.
What about deb sterns saying Jenn woke up with a headache and sent maddi upstairs, she said " she told me" "she" being jenn. 2 different stories, someones nose is growing,
I think somewhere along the line maybe she conflated selfishness with selfcare, and decided that if she was putting herself first, it was the right call.Even with her logic that she was selfish and needed to sleep why wouldn't she go in the so called guest bedroom with the smaller bed?
Hi @ttjo,It does look like the notes were in the makeshift room in the L/R ( you can see the folding dividers)
Yeah, that really bothered me. Not least because there was an older teen boy living there. No indication that that teen was ever inappropriate at all, but when you have kids over a certain age, they should have privacy for vulnerable moments - changing clothing, sleeping - at a bare minimum, ESPECIALLY if those kids are not kids who have been raised from a very young age as siblings. And that is far more important when you have tenants who are non related adults, especially if those tenants are men. I know women can be abusers too, but the statistics show that men present a much higher risk to vulnerable kids.Imo Maddie her whole make *advertiser censored* bedroom was one red flag. No privacy what so ever in a house with tenants, not to mention her abuser SS. No way to escape or have a save space to not be invaded any time SS needs attention or just chill and not be bothered by anyone. I type this words and it sounds so casual but it is such a understatement.
OMG @IzzyBlanche is a Detective!!! Thank you!! YES. It's a hair dryer. PHEW.
I think the texts between the adults are fraud. Specifically, I think they agreed to say whatever they said and sent them so as to give the appearance that all was well and Ms went to sleep as usual then went “missing” the next day. MoooThanks again for uploading all of this, @Mack the Knife.
One thing that keeps sticking in my mind when I've seen this mentioned are the texts the night when Maddie is sent to sleep in the same room as SS. (Yellow highlighting mine.) He refers to Maddie as building a nest for sleeping & I keep thinking that she has tucked herself in with pillows, blankets, or whatever else in an effort to "build a wall" around herself for protection. Kwim? Totally MOO but it's the image that keeps popping up in my head. All of this makes me sad for Maddie but somehow this really underlines it for me. She was living with a shark or sharks & was trying to protect herself so she could sleep. Imo.
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Exactly iamshadow21^^^!…. And the next key larger question IMO is WITH wouldn’t SS be instead relegated to the small corner of the living room couch that JS apparently placed MS in?If not to signs, then at least to the potential ramifications of sending her child to sleep with an adult man.
I don't care how nice a guy is, you don't send your kids to sleep with some guy. You give them the room with a doorlock if you have housemates, rather than a corner of the living room where anyone could walk in, leaving a spare room empty for boo whenever he feels like visiting.
And when your kid goes missing, you don't spend all your time and energy defending the guy who lied his butt off about his movements the morning she disappeared. You certainly don't continue when they show you a picture of your kid with that guy's penis in her mouth.
The bar is so, so low for giving a damn, and she so far has failed to clear it.
MOO
I don’t buy that she didn’t suspect. In the massive document drop last week, she told police she thought he was guilty. They asked of what. She said of sexually abusing her daughter. I paraphrased it but you get the idea. That report said she had already accepted the sex abuse and didn’t view it as evil.She didnt even suspect it (allegedly) according to her. Hard enough to believe before but now "If she has a (presumably sexual) trauma in her past" you would think she'd be hyper sensitive to the signs? Obv not.
And you don’t find out he has images and video of your daughter in his phone then advise his dad to get him a lawyer!!? Why is he always her first concern?! Imo? Because she knows if he goes down, she probably goes next. Mooo.If not to signs, then at least to the potential ramifications of sending her child to sleep with an adult man.
I don't care how nice a guy is, you don't send your kids to sleep with some guy. You give them the room with a doorlock if you have housemates, rather than a corner of the living room where anyone could walk in, leaving a spare room empty for boo whenever he feels like visiting.
And when your kid goes missing, you don't spend all your time and energy defending the guy who lied his butt off about his movements the morning she disappeared. You certainly don't continue when they show you a picture of your kid with that guy's penis in her mouth.
The bar is so, so low for giving a damn, and she so far has failed to clear it.
MOO