Found Deceased FL - Madeline Soto, 13, Missing Child Alert, 13500 blk Town Loop Blvd, Orlando, 26 Feb 2024 *arrest* #11

[Pruddennce]

and this....she remembers having a 'lunch date' but doesnt remember if SS 'babysat'....yet investigators knew there was communication with SS about it. only a few weeks before she is missing and she cant remember?????? I call it BS.

MM: Do you remember sending him a text message asking if he can babysit Maddie while you go have lunch with your friend?

JS: This was a few weeks before? I remember—I remember going out a few weeks before. I don't remember asking him to babysit. I don't know where he was.

MM: Did you ever go to lunch with your friend and he babysat her?

JS: I—I did go to lunch with my friend, but I don’t think he—I don’t think he was here. I think Maddie stayed home alone for a few hours.

makes me crazy the term BABYSIT is used.

 

[LetsSolvIt]

MS, a minor child, died under suspicious means that were determined to be criminal, not an accident, under JS's watch.

JS was under criminal investigation and had to make a decision if she was going to cooperate with the investigation of her daughter's murder or not.

IMO, JS lawyered up, and made the decision to cooperate but not without some form of protection for herself. There are three types of immunity, and JS received the middle ground. IMO, she got more than she deserved.

Derivative Use Immunity (DUI) is better than Use Immunity because it prevents the government from using not only JS's direct statements and evidence against her, but it also protects her from any evidence derived through additional information the authorities might derive from her as she cooperates by giving the DA and investigators honest answers to their questions about both herself and SS.

JS's DUI won't protect her from the government using evidence against her that it obtained completely independent of her cooperation. For example, an independent source, and/or an independent investigation could still result in evidence to prosecute her. IMO, the person who could probably hurt her is SS but she's covered now. JMO

With DUI it sounds like she would have no immunity where she was not truthful. How might they prove she was untruthful when she said she could’ve remember or didn’t know? And there was a lot of that (I assume coached by counsl). They can’t get inside her head but let’s hope somehow there will be evidence to prove she does remember or did know. OMO.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

and this....she remembers having a 'lunch date' but doesnt remember if SS 'babysat'....yet investigators knew there was communication with SS about it. only a few weeks before she is missing and she cant remember?????? I call it BS.

MM: Do you remember sending him a text message asking if he can babysit Maddie while you go have lunch with your friend?

JS: This was a few weeks before? I remember—I remember going out a few weeks before. I don't remember asking him to babysit. I don't know where he was.

MM: Did you ever go to lunch with your friend and he babysat her?

JS: I—I did go to lunch with my friend, but I don’t think he—I don’t think he was here. I think Maddie stayed home alone for a few hours.

makes me crazy the term BABYSIT is used.

Yes, as if a 12-year-old needed a babysitter while her mother went to lunch in the middle of the day.

 

[LetsSolvIt]

I wonder if LE know what was said on the phone between Maddie and SS on the 2/24? CS said Maddie just wanted to confirm SS was coming to her party the next day but for some reason. afterwards SS was acting strange and tense and but wouldn’t tell them what was wrong except he really needed to find his medications. It seems like that this the day he chose to remove his hard-drive from his computers too and put them info storage. It seems suspicious and odd to me and I wonder if there is any way for police to retrace all his communications and transactions that took place then.

Like others said, what happened to Maddie’s money and where does SS’ money come from? He doesn’t have insurance so presumably he pays for his meds out of pocket, he orders packages of video games, and I assume he can afford gas for his car and the vapes he bought at the shop.

Yet, he doesn’t have a job and CS, JS, JS’ mom, one of JS’ roommates and JS’ friends all states to police that not only did he not have a job but he also doesn’t have any money either. Maddie also told her therapist and a friend that he doesn’t do anything useful around the house but he still their money and eats their food. Considering that he steals from his own parents it makes sense that Maddie and JS consider him responsible for Maddie’s Christmas money too. It makes sense also why they would count her birthday money considering they have to account for every penny with a their in their house.

What doesn’t make sense is that he could make 30k at Disney and still not contribute at all to $400-600 worth of rent? It doesn’t make sense that according to C.S. and Angelique SS could get upset that JS was kicking him out last November/December. She told them he was a bad partner who didn’t want to work and she, like his parents, was tired of supporting him. It sounds like Maddie was tired of his presence too.

However, for someone without a job he sure seems entitled to the money other people worked for or were gifted. And for someone who doesn’t pay rent he acts like it is privilege for JS, Maddie and his parents to have him he even live with them. It seems like he told JS the same lie he has already been telling his parents about getting a job at Disney.

However, if Disney is not source of income than what is? I truly hope he hasn’t been selling any explicit pictures of Maddie or any other victims. Already he seems to have exploited every aspect of her life and person even though he had no right to it or her.

Also, how was he planning on getting his hands on sevoflurane and who was he going to illegally use it on and why?

It’s possible with all his claims about debilitating anxiety — he should have an actual diagnosis to get the prescriptions — he could be receiving disability or food stamps, and/or could be on Medicaid. OMO. IDK.

 

[Inthedetails]

and this....she remembers having a 'lunch date' but doesnt remember if SS 'babysat'....yet investigators knew there was communication with SS about it. only a few weeks before she is missing and she cant remember?????? I call it BS.

MM: Do you remember sending him a text message asking if he can babysit Maddie while you go have lunch with your friend?

JS: This was a few weeks before? I remember—I remember going out a few weeks before. I don't remember asking him to babysit. I don't know where he was.

MM: Did you ever go to lunch with your friend and he babysat her?

JS: I—I did go to lunch with my friend, but I don’t think he—I don’t think he was here. I think Maddie stayed home alone for a few hours.

makes me crazy the term BABYSIT is used.

Plus, you know he'd JUMP at the chance to "babysit" with Maddie home alone.

Grrrrr......


jmo

 

[ttjo]

I missed that passage in a teacher interview that Madeline told her about the theft?

I did too, but someone posted it thats the only reason I knew. I think they said her therapist not a teacher. also grandma and a friend, Im trying to find a source to confirm (an interview or police statement).

 

[Pruddennce]

It’s possible with all his claims about debilitating anxiety — he should have an actual diagnosis to get the prescriptions — he could be receiving disability or food stamps, and/or could be on Medicaid. OMO. IDK.

yes, according to his parents, he was diagnosed and had script(s).

I caught this in his parents LE interview: his dad said SS seemed overly stressed on saturday evening... SS asked them if they had any anxiety medication, they said no.....but then SS said he found some 4 year old 'stuff'

his father continued to say he was full of stress on saturday evening. 'something worrisome. something really preying on him and not settling well with him'...but they dont ask him. in fact, his father states 'better tiptoe, not sure if he is going to blow up or not, he was calm enough but you know I didn't know if anything could trigger or not".

his dad said SS didnt arrange coverage when he left Disney. (probably Cobra). so he got him back on insurance. he said SS supposedly contacted the doctor for the script, but it never was filled.

mom interjects: he started taking adderall when he was a child and describes why. more recent: he was seeing 'a counselor' for about 4 years prior and was prescribed medication(s).

asked if there was a change in his demeanor as its now early morning hours of wednesday he sees SS again, and last time he was a hot mess of stress: Dad: 'very stoic, no emotions, again, Im attributing to medication he is taking and the fact that....".

so of course there is a follow up question about what meds since his wasnt filled: Q "where would he get the medication, from Jenn? if he were to take it?' then mom interjects and says: 'oh Jenn said, dont worry about it, I have some meds here he can use."

sharing meds. no surprise.

 

[AnyNameIWish]

What did J’s family think of her and her relationship with M, did they have concerns about her parenting? What are their testimonies like? What do they think now? Do they support her or doubt her? Their views must be so important to the police.

We have a short clip of granma YZ, mom of Jennifer, my takehome from her messaging was that

- Maddie was a very attached kid and slept with grandma, "never slept alone"- YZ's own words.
- Maddie "had a lot of fears" - YZ's own words
- We don't get an idea of how YZ feels about parenting of Maddie
- YZ didn't like Stephan. Quelle surprise. We already know he would not have been invited to the birthday party hosted by YZ.

Not much else. Initially YZ was more upset on Spanish television that the school didn't call the family in the morning when Maddie didn't show up to school. (They called in the early evening only.)
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[ttjo]

Maddie also told her therapist and a friend that he doesn’t do anything useful around the house but he still their money and eats their food

Do you know if this was in a pdf or a body cam, Jenn talked about the missing money and that they found it. Trying to determine when Maddi said this ( time frame)

 

[FromGermany1]

We have a short clip of granma YZ, mom of Jennifer, my takehome from her messaging was that

- Maddie was a very attached kid and slept with grandma, "never slept alone"- YZ's own words.
- Maddie "had a lot of fears" - YZ's own words
- We don't get an idea of how YZ feels about parenting of Maddie
- YZ didn't like Stephan. Quelle surprise. We already know he would not have been invited to the birthday party hosted by YZ.

Not much else. Initially YZ was more upset on Spanish television that the school didn't call the family in the morning when Maddie didn't show up to school. (They called in the early evening only.)
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bbm
... but Maddie called SS, who should confirm to her, that he would come to her birthday party the next day (as DS told, probably because it was SS' explanation). Either Maddie didn't know, he wasn't invited, or SS told his mum DS the untruth. In any case, he became crazy after that call.

 

[FromGermany1]

Can it be, he was on probation for "something" and if abuse (incl. pregnancy) would have become known to authorities, he would have immediately landed behind bars?