I think that's possible. She would have been around family during that initial report, so if they didn't approve of their relationship, then it does make sense she'd lie. So the "pickup" and "getting ready" story could have come as a result of that. It is interesting she apparently never explained this to law enforcement later ( butmaybe she did and it's just not in the docs).
Great points. I wonder if he was retroactively trying to put distance between himself and the murder. So if his arrival is vague, it's maybe less suspicious that he arrives and then Maddie disappears shortly after.
and then finally, definitely answered NO when asked if she visually observed Madeline. and stated the last time she physically saw Madeline is when she sent her to bed at 2300 hours with SS, Room #4.
whatever he did, I think it's a big deal. I really want to know where he went and what he did.
yes, you are right vague intent...listening again he was asked 'when did you come back to help..." there is a slight peripheral interruption with someone around them, and he says 'what do you mean?????'
the ping info has him coming in from what looks like North Port and getting into the city before 8 pm. , if it was sooner I think they would have more ping info.
has it been validated whether she was with him or not? he was asked did you guys go anywhere last nite? his answer was I dont recall, you will have to ask HER if WE went anywhere. I dont recall US going anywhere last nite.
so when the cop asks him " where did you guys go search, did you go together etc, SS should have known they knew he went somewhere, I don't think hes smart enough to know it was a tactic. He answers I don't know, I don't recall", knowing he was in Jenn's vehicle, and that's what would be tracked, he was playing dumb to imply it might have been her. driving around. ( IMO)
Remember though, JS said she sent SS and MS UP to the guest room to sleep. So he had to get Ms downstairs and out of the house without them seeing anything. How did he manage this remains unknown but my guess is, he moved the body well before 7:35am (before the backpack is tossed). There is no way he was going to wait until it super light out to do so right? He was at least a little aware that he needed to not be seen as evidenced by his moving her from the passenger seat to the trunk in a car park wherein he didn’t think he’d be seen or caught on camera (lmao).
That site is where Madeline's remains were found. Could he have had a helper, one of his pedophile buddies that shared images come help him dispose or something? Witness described what man was wearing, and that turned out to be SS. I don’t think he could have driven back to where the body was anyhow because I imagine the gate was probably closed by the property owner anyhow after the body was found and police were done at the scene (imo)!
It's Page 17 if you want to read it yourself.
It's Page 17, I wrote it down. Man seen twice by side of road like changing tire. First time seen 9-10:00 a.m. and the second time 14:15-15:15. Second time a red haired helper was also seen with him.
Thank you!!!ETA MOO here-- It seems now that some kind of time had to pass to start a decomp scent, at least a few hours you'd think, before a cadaver dog could hit on the scent. Is it possible SS did take Jenn's Nissan the night after he had put MS in the field, and somehow then picked up the decomp scent onto Jenn's wheel well. Maybe @Seattle1 was on the right track, after all. It just seems he'd have to have driven to the body or somehow touched the body in some way then transfer it to Jenn's wheel well. Or like some clever member suggested hidden body in wheel well.
Warning graphic talk of decomp & cadaver dog info
From doggiesaurus com:
(No, on mortally wounded, I believe must be deceased.) Cadaver dogs should be able to detect bodies 24 to 72 hours soon after death, as this is when decomposition starts. Then can also detect human remains a long time after death, being used by archaeological teams. The bottom line is cadaver dogs can be trained to detect human remains the moment the body starts to decay.
It's a very interesting article you might want to read the whole article. The dogs are amazing!
What Cadaver Dogs Are Sniffing for When They Look for a Body
Not even 12 feet of soil can get between these dogs and a corpse.www.inverse.com
These dogs have their work cut out for them. Unlike drug- or bomb-sniffing dogs that just need to identify a few specific scents, cadaver dogs must learn to identify hundreds.
Training requires a lot of exposure to a lot of putrid odors, but acquiring isolated versions of those odors isn’t easy....
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When cadaver pups first start out, they practice not with real corpses but with synthetic cadaver scents. These are a real thing: the chemical giant Sigma-Aldrich makes three different corpse scents for canine training, including “recently dead,” “decomposed,” and “drowned victim.” But when it comes to the scent of dead bodies, nothing beats the real, multifarious stench. Human bodies decompose in five basic stages, and each of those stages...
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Many of these scents are likely identifiable only by trained dogs, but a few will stick out even to the common human nose: cadaverine, putrescine, skatole, and indole. As Inverse has explained in the past, these compounds smell particularly rank:.....
Stage 1 Fresh (1-2 days) This stage begins almost instantly from the moment of death. As the heart stops beating, the body’s cells gets deprived of oxygen and pH changes occurs.
Decomposition Stages of Human Body - Forensics Digest
Decomposition is the process by which organic material is broken down into simpler forms. It occursforensicsdigest.com
Stage 2 Bloated (2-6 days) This stage of decomposition includes the first …
Stage 3 Decay (5-11 days) The previously inflated carcass now deflates and …
Stage 4 Post-Decay (10-24 days) By the time this stage is reached, …
