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Yes the one released to the public? What about it?
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Yes the one released to the public? What about it?
If relatively easy then give us a for instance? I mean that sincerely cause I can't as hard a I try. I'm not sure if I could give even more time considering all he had to do.
Does anyone know when that was taken? It looks like she was dressed up in a costume. Reminds me of the pics of her and Dale when she was dressed up as a cop.
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There are many theories out there. I have my own. If you want to see how it's possible google "Michelle Parker case: When did the crime occur?" That should help open possibilities...
I wish there was some news.
I keep reading about how they are putting so much work into this case. How there is continued fbi involvement. They are looking very incompetent imo. If I were ds2 I'd be extremely confident at this point
I keep reading about how they are putting so much work into this case. How there is continued fbi involvement. They are looking very incompetent imo. If I were ds2 I'd be extremely confident at this point
I keep thinking of all the claims of money being motive for this "crime". Think about it if Dale didn't want to pay $800 for child support so he "killed" Michelle you think he is going to take on ALL the expenses? It doesn't make sense! Also where does it say he had a problem with paying child support?? The only thing I remember is once Michelle was missing he asked to stop paying which doesn't seem sinister to me. He has the twins full time and agreed the child support would be put back into effect once she came back. Also as far as Michelle walking away anything seems possible. She married, divorced and had her oldest son young. She was a very busy woman 3 kids, work school and then the humiliation as she put it of the PC. I wouldn't blame her if she wanted a break. Also while we all may SPECULATE as to what type of father Dale is Michelle did voluntarily leave THEIR children with him! I say speculate because you all don't know him and can only ASSUME what type of father he is. Yes we all know about the restraining order that was denied for lack of evidence so why didn't she try to fight for full custody?! If I felt my kids were being left with a monster who will harm the children I would do my hardest to keep those kids safe! That is my job as a mother. But no she willingly left their kids with their father. So why would she not leave the kids with him if she needed some time away to clear her thoughts or the stress of life? You can all say she is a devoted mother and loves her family she would never do that but you never really know what is in somebody's head.
We have all these clues the phone, the car but no body. Why not? Most everyone on here has already made up their mind dale is a dumb criminal so how did he get so good at hiding the body? All this being said is MOO!
We have all these clues the phone, the car but no body. Why not? Most everyone on here has already made up their mind dale is a dumb criminal so how did he get so good at hiding the body? All this being said is MOO!
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Dale probably planned her demise for quite some time. The most important element is hiding the body. No body, no DNA, no witnesses and you are a free man....Dale had months to plan and then he did all he could to cover his tracks.
As far as leaving the children with Dale. She had to as he had partial custody. Michelle told others she was fearful of Dale so I would suspect she did so reluctantly. She saw the abuse (verbal and physical) and knew what he was capable of. She may have taken that too lightly and look what happened...he erased her
The court records reflect that Dale was a deadbeat dad who would not man up and take responsibility for his actions! Michelle had to CONTINUALLY take him to court to get child support. There are EXTENSIVE public records of this. In fact, the $800 she was receiving was GARNISHED from his wages by the court because of his LACK of payment. IMO Michelle was a great mother, sister, daughter, and friend and would not walk away without telling someone - especially for nearly 6 months. That makes no sense whatsoever. JMO
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Jazz, I found an article written/posted 12/9/11 on the hinkymeter website. Just reading it I got chills. I think the theory is spot on. Thanks for pointing it out.
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Are we allowed to discuss it, because I have some comments and don't agree 100%.
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Dale probably planned her demise for quite some time. The most important element is hiding the body. No body, no DNA, no witnesses and you are a free man....Dale had months to plan and then he did all he could to cover his tracks.
As far as leaving the children with Dale. She had to as he had partial custody. Michelle told others she was fearful of Dale so I would suspect she did so reluctantly. She saw the abuse (verbal and physical) and knew what he was capable of. She may have taken that too lightly and look what happened...he erased her
The court records reflect that Dale was a deadbeat dad who would not man up and take responsibility for his actions! Michelle had to CONTINUALLY take him to court to get child support. There are EXTENSIVE public records of this. In fact, the $800 she was receiving was GARNISHED from his wages by the court because of his LACK of payment. IMO Michelle was a great mother, sister, daughter, and friend and would not walk away without telling someone - especially for nearly 6 months. That makes no sense whatsoever. JMO
Where is your proof that he was a dead beat dad? i read the court records and seems to me the court did an income deduction order in nov of 2009. The Delinquent Support was in march of 2010, so seems to me.. it was a court error..MOO i don;t see any thing saying she CONTINUALLY had to take him to court. Also says dsjr is the petitioner and MP is the respondent. He is the petitioner, that means he initiated the child support and court proceedings, not MP . If his wages are "garnished" since 2009, How is he not making payments? How could he be late if the state is taking it directly from his checks? IMO that would mean court error to me? There are two dads paying child support. Was it not the other dad? Also if MP was in such fear why would she take them to his house alone? why not have a friend go or meet in a public place? Or maybe even a police escort? There are a lot of cases that the woman are scared and meets in a public place with a police escort? seeing how there is all this proof of his "character" don't you think if she really was she would have went to dcf her self or made more efforts to involve some one to help her. Maybe if she thought he was gonna hurt the kids she would have made other arrangements or simply refuse to take them to him.
You stated lead detective MM said that they had the right suspect several times. Can you plz post a link to where MM says that. I would like to see that.
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Court records show Michelle took DSjr to court for child support so it couldn't have been the other child's dad unless his name was also DSJr.
Jmo, the link you're asking for is back in the many other MP threads. I don't have time or I'd do a search for it 'cause I've seen it but I have no time lately (I'm caring for my elderly disabled mom who just came home from a hospital).
It is my opinion, tho, that Michelle was very much afraid for her own safety that day she disappeared and told others of her fear because LE jumped on the case so very quickly. Jmo.
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Planning, planning, planning, ?????? Really, why on God's Earth would anyone decide it would be a good idea to:
1. Do this on the day of the PC airing?
2. Do this at your condo?
3. Do this with 2 three yr olds with you?
4. Do this in broad daylight?
5. Do this with a camera aimed at your driveway?
6. Do this with neighbors possibably looking out windows and maybe an eye witness to your actions?
7. Do this knowing she had a schedule that was "spot on" as they say.
8. Leave the hummer where someone will find it in less than a few hours.
9. Leave the phone where LE can find it, get it and not far from your condo.
10 Risk leaving DNA evidence in your condo.
and last, 11. Why give yourself such a small window to work with? 42 minutes.....
If he left the body in the condo, why didn't the dogs pick up on it?
that is all I can think of for now, but if he planned this, he made some very stupid mistakes.
1. Do this on the day of the PC airing?
2. Do this at your condo?
3. Do this with 2 three yr olds with you?
4. Do this in broad daylight?
5. Do this with a camera aimed at your driveway?
6. Do this with neighbors possibably looking out windows and maybe an eye witness to your actions?
7. Do this knowing she had a schedule that was "spot on" as they say.
8. Leave the hummer where someone will find it in less than a few hours.
9. Leave the phone where LE can find it, get it and not far from your condo.
10 Risk leaving DNA evidence in your condo.
and last, 11. Why give yourself such a small window to work with? 42 minutes.....
If he left the body in the condo, why didn't the dogs pick up on it?
that is all I can think of for now, but if he planned this, he made some very stupid mistakes.
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Great points, kids cost way more than $800 a month for twins. We all know that. So he got off IMO easy and she had them most of the time, I assume this as I don't know anything about her day-to-day life and time. Killing someone to get out of $800 a month for twins seems weak to me. The motive, not the person. Now he has a lot more going out for the kids than $800 a month. So that motive doesn't hold water for me. And if he had money taken out of his pay, then he was paying support.
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Can you or some one show me the link that shows that because all i can find is dale "THE PETITIONER" taking MP the "RESPONDENT" to court.
IMO but i thought it was stated that LE jumped on the case so quickly was because this was out of character for her not because she was afraid of dale.
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Here's just one, SimpleLikeThat, stating the detective stands behind hid decision to name DSjr prime suspect.
http://www.wesh.com/news/29988425/detail.html
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I thought she was humiliated not afraid for her safety, where did you read this? And you are correct LE jumped on this, faster than other woman that went missing. I credit her mom for this, she was on it right away. That is a good thing in my mind, you should be on it right away if someone doesn't show up for work or come home.
I will have to go back to some of the earlier articles. We have her sister who gave two different times as to when the son called to report her not home. We also IIRC never figured out where she was going after dropping off the twins that day. Some said shoe shopping, from text messages, some said she was getting her hair relaxed, textes again, but did we ever figure out if she was headed back to her mom's to see her son right away? We don't know when he called YS to say she didn't come home, one time was 4:30 and the other time reported was 6:50 by LS. We know she worked at the barn, but not what days of the week, we know she had school, but not the class times or day of the week. We know she did the Glow tanning, but was that the day time business while the kids were in school? So she had a schedule, but we don't know every bit of it. Who had the kids while she was working at the Barn. I am sure you guys know all of it, just I have forgotten over the months. I know she lived with her mom, with the kids, and IIRC her stuff went to storage. Was LS and DS also living at home? We know DS was out that day, because of the text to MP "where are you?" So the 11 yr old was home at YS's alone after school. The phone was powered down at 8pm correct? So I wonder how many calls came in, like from the son, mom, sister, brother, ex husband? LE has all of that, correct? Just rehashing.
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Bern, I said it was my opinion only, both in my original post and this one:
That may be, but I did say it was my opinion only that Michelle was afraid.
Old news and all he said was he stands behind the fact he was "named a suspect". He didn't say he thought Dale would be arrested soon or that he thought he did it or that they had evidence against him. Would anyone really expect him to say " gee we screwed up naming Dale so soon"
This article was from December almost 5 months ago early on in the investigation. We have not heard a whole lot lately which makes me believe they jumped the gun with just circumstantial evidence. IMO Dale was not a deadbeat dad. My ex is a deadbeat dad he has not seen his child since the child was 6 months old and it took 12 years to finally get child support. That is a deadbeat dad! I also still question if Dale was such a monster then why did Michelle not try to get full custody of the twins?! Because she would need proof he was a monster and terrible father which she did not have IMO. I don't ever recall hearing of any incidents where he has laid a finger on one of the twins. Or did I miss it?
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