FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #21

[Thor]

People who are quick to anger often don't think about the consequences. GP was in his "space" on his star wars club and he was angry. He wanted to get back at her and unfortunately used a fake FB acct thinking it couldn't be traced except he was stupid and left his email address available to anyone that clicked on the FB acct. oops!

IMO One would think that having killed her, he was by now plenty satisfied so as to not need to further attack her on FB. Besides email or no email an FB account creation and all activities conducted therein can easily be traced by IP address, a fact commonly known to most people and presumably also to Dale.

 

[SleuthDecay]

I got legal question. So Dale was names PS, was this in Michelle's disappearance, murder, both?

Last I heard, this was still a missing persons case, but it's being investigated by the homicide division. Unless I missed something, that's been the case since Michelle first disappeared, and has not changed since he was named the prime suspect. HTH

 

[southern_comfort]

What did he have to gain by knocking over a cameraman outside the courthouse on his way to the custody hearing? Nothing, that I'm aware of. He was just mad, so he did it. And he was mad at GP for posting about Michelle, so he apparently got back at her by posting something mean about GP's missing stepdaughter. Dude just can't control his temper, in my opinion.

I don't have the benefit of the entire context of the posts. Was the hooker thing posted on the Mega Con page in response to Michelle's family's post asking attendees to be on the lookout?

I can't work up too much outrage about the cameraman. I think I might do the same thing, if I had enough muscle power.

 

[Jazzmaster]

What did he have to gain by knocking over a cameraman outside the courthouse on his way to the custody hearing? Nothing, that I'm aware of. He was just mad, so he did it. And he was mad at GP for posting about Michelle, so he apparently got back at her by posting something mean about GP's missing stepdaughter. Dude just can't control his temper, in my opinion.

So if it wasn't premeditated...which I'm not sold 100% on, could he maybe have snapped the same way he did with the Cameraman, Buck, and all his other senseless acts of violence and stupidity? Let's say he even slapped her or attacked out of anger...at that point he had no way to turn back especially if she threatened to call LE...3rd strike law!

 

[Jazzmaster]

I don't have the benefit of the entire context of the posts. Was the hooker thing posted on the Mega Con page in response to Michelle's family's post asking attendees to be on the lookout?

I can't work up too much outrage about the cameraman. I think I might do the same thing, if I had enough muscle power.

You are corect...IMO GP created a great banner telling MegaCon attendees to ask Dale where Michelle is...very creative. True genius and Dale I guess didn't like it on FB lol. Instead he calls Michelle a known escort who sells sex for money and Gayle should go ask Michelle's many clients where she is. One class act!

 

[southern_comfort]

You are corect...IMO GP created a great banner telling MegaCon attendees to ask Dale where Michelle is...very creative. True genius and Dale I guess didn't like it on FB lol. Instead he calls Michelle a known escort who sells sex for money and Gayle should go ask Michelle's many clients where she is. One class act!

An actual, physical banner that they put up at the convention? Or a graphic banner posted online?

 

[Jazzmaster]

IMO One would think that having killed her, he was by now plenty satisfied so as to not need to further attack her on FB. Besides email or no email an FB account creation and all activities conducted therein can easily be traced by IP address, a fact commonly known to most people and presumably also to Dale.

In all honesty Dale doesn't seem too bright so we can't assume he knows anything unless we have evidence of his dad researching that for him too!

 

[Jazzmaster]

An actual, physical banner that they put up at the convention? Or a graphic banner posted online?

It was an online graphic and flyers were reportedly passed out at the convention! I really admire GP and her feistiness!

 

[SleuthDecay]

I don't have the benefit of the entire context of the posts. Was the hooker thing posted on the Mega Con page in response to Michelle's family's post asking attendees to be on the lookout?

I can't work up too much outrage about the cameraman. I think I might do the same thing, if I had enough muscle power.

I don't remember which convention page it was. It was in response to GP (Michelle's stepmother) posting on the page to raise awareness about Michelle.

And about the cameraman... would you have done the same thing if you were on your way to a custody hearing to try to get your kids back? Right outside the courtroom? Knowing full well that the incident was being videotaped by multiple news stations? Having just had your children taken away because DCF received multiple reports that you were violent? Seems to me that if he had any capability whatsoever of controlling his temper, that would have been an excellent time to do so. JMO.

 

[Thor]

So if it wasn't premeditated...which I'm not sold 100% on, could he maybe have snapped the same way he did with the Cameraman, Buck, and all his other senseless acts of violence and stupidity? Let's say he even slapped her or attacked out of anger...at that point he had no way to turn back especially if she threatened to call LE...3rd strike law!

If it was not premeditated, as it seems clear IMO, then the scenario where MP gets abducted/killed at Dale's becomes almost surreal. I can write in detail why IMo it is so but I don't have that kind of stamina right now. Simply put you have kids in the apartment, an altercation, acts of violence, possible screams, a possible struggle, and I can think of so many other factors that taken in their totality are extremely hard to imagine having taking place on that fateful afternoon without a single eyewitness account or forensic evidence. IMO what happens to MP happens after she leaves Dale's condo.

 

[telemag]

If it was not premeditated, as it seems clear IMO, then the scenario where MP gets abducted/killed at Dale's becomes almost surreal. I can write in detail why IMo it is so but I don't have that kind of stamina right now. Simply put you have kids in the apartment, an altercation, acts of violence, possible screams, a possible struggle, and I can think of so many other factors that taken in their totality are extremely hard to imagine having taking place on that fateful afternoon without a single eyewitness account or forensic evidence. IMO what happens to MP happens after she leaves Dale's condo.

I agree, too bad there isn't just one piece of evidence such as a tape of the Hummer leaving the condo or is there?

 

[southern_comfort]

I agree, too bad there isn't just one piece of evidence such as a tape of the Hummer leaving the condo or is there?

That's another question for which I can't seem to find an answer...

How did it come to be that there is tape of the Hummer arriving, but not leaving? Was the camera shut off, or is there another exit?

 

[Jazzmaster]

If it was not premeditated, as it seems clear IMO, then the scenario where MP gets abducted/killed at Dale's becomes almost surreal. I can write in detail why IMo it is so but I don't have that kind of stamina right now. Simply put you have kids in the apartment, an altercation, acts of violence, possible screams, a possible struggle, and I can think of so many other factors that taken in their totality are extremely hard to imagine having taking place on that fateful afternoon without a single eyewitness account or forensic evidence. IMO what happens to MP happens after she leaves Dale's condo.

Unless you are Dale and know his thoughts or spoke to Dale and he told you it wasn't premeditated there is no way at this point given the info we have to determine if this was murder 1 or murder 2. I believe it was a 187 but am not convinced if this was a 1 or 2 just yet. He could have snapped in the condo, knew he wanted to kill her and just silenced her with rope/duct tape or chemical until killing her later? Maybe Dale will eventually tell us all how he did it to fill in that which is still a mystery? Dale where is Michelle and how did you kill her? Jmo

 

[Thor]

I agree, too bad there isn't just one piece of evidence such as a tape of the Hummer leaving the condo or is there?

Dunno, but I would crosscheck what is known of DS and Sr movements after MP leaves the condo if my theory was that Dale killed her.

 

[Jazzmaster]

That's another question for which I can't seem to find an answer...

How did it come to be that there is tape of the Hummer arriving, but not leaving? Was the camera shut off, or is there another exit?

Hmm do we REALLY honestly think that LE doesn't have this info? Why did the media have to retract stories after airing the initial tape? I believe the evidence exists but it's content hasn't been released to the public...Another reason for the focus on Dale IMO.

 

[telemag]

That's another question for which I can't seem to find an answer...

How did it come to be that there is tape of the Hummer arriving, but not leaving? Was the camera shut off, or is there another exit?

Million $ question as no one seems to know.

 

[SleuthDecay]

That's another question for which I can't seem to find an answer...

How did it come to be that there is tape of the Hummer arriving, but not leaving? Was the camera shut off, or is there another exit?

Dale's street loops around. She would've left the subdivision through the same gates she came in, but she wouldn't have had to pass the camera on the way out. HTH

 

[Thor]

Unless you are Dale and know his thoughts or spoke to Dale and he told you it wasn't premeditated there is no way at this point given the info we have to determine if this was murder 1 or murder 2. I believe it was a 187 but am not convinced if this was a 1 or 2 just yet. He could have snapped in the condo, knew he wanted to kill her and just silenced her with rope/duct tape or chemical until killing her later? Maybe Dale will eventually tell us all how he did it to fill in that which is still a mystery? Dale where is Michelle and how did you kill her? Jmo

If he "snapped" at the condo it was not premeditated, and IMO one does not need any psychic insight into Dale's mind to reasonably eliminate premeditation given the reason already posted previously. Simply If one assumes premeditation then one believes that choosing to kill MP when she drops off the kids at his Condo is reasonable, and IMO it is not.

 

[telemag]

If Michelle left the condo alive and on her own then Dale didn't do it. I just find it odd that we have no tapes of her leaving. I also find it odd that she disappeared on the day that PC aired unless she was planning on leaving even if it was a spur of the moment decision. Also, and I'm pretty sure this was never released, was Michelle's finger prints found on the steering wheel? Either one of two things, the wheel had her prints on it and that is proof she was driving last, the wheel was wiped down which means it was her Dale or someone else that did it. Also was the seat found in the position that Michelle usually drove it?

 

[SleuthDecay]

Million $ question as no one seems to know.

Hope this helps.

And the way that that neighborhood works is, a lot of people have asked why don`t they have video of the vehicle leaving if it came in. Well, it`s a loop around. So when you drive in, you would drive up to the house and then it just loops back around to leave out of the gate. So that`s why the vehicle is actually not seen leaving because normally she just went around the loop-- Lauren Erickson

SOURCE: NANCY GRACE
Missing "People`s Court" Mom`s Cellphone Found
Aired December 8, 2011 - 20:00 ET
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1112/08/ng.01.html