FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #21

[Jazzmaster]

I haven't heard anyone come up with a reasonable explanation for this:

If Dale is SO innocent why did he feel the need to use a fake FB tied back to his email address (Buck Fuddy) to call Michelle an escort and tell her stepmom GP that she should go ask all of Michelle's "clients" where Michelle is. No innocent person would do that kind of sick and twisting taunting IMO...

 

[telemag]

I haven't heard anyone come up with a reasonable explanation for this:

If Dale is SO innocent why did he feel the need to use a fake FB tied back to his email address (Buck Fuddy) to call Michelle an escort and tell her stepmom GP that she should go ask all of Michelle's "clients" where Michelle is. No innocent person would do that kind of sick and twisting taunting IMO...

I'm not doubting you in the least, but do you have absolute proof of what you claim?

 

[Thor]

I haven't heard anyone come up with a reasonable explanation for this:

If Dale is SO innocent why did he feel the need to use a fake FB tied back to his email address (Buck Fuddy) to call Michelle an escort and tell her stepmom GP that she should go ask all of Michelle's "clients" where Michelle is. No innocent person would do that kind of sick and twisting taunting IMO...

Character issues, probably unsubstantiated, certainly not evidence one needs to convict.

 

[Jazzmaster]

I'm not even going to attempt to enumerate the amount of forensic evidence that may very well exist when somebody overpowers then kills someone and subsequently disposes of that victim's body, I never thought this would be debatable, I was wrong clearly. I am not going to go into it any deeper other then to say that the police wasn't looking for Micky Mouse when they searched vehicles and places connected to DS and that of this I am pretty confident.

As for the rest of your reply I think it is evidence of how poorly I must have made my original argument, so let me try again, this time simply and to the point.

If the question was phrased like this:

Is it reasonable that of all the places in the world DS could have harmed MP he would have chosen the time MP dropped off the kids at his condo?

Then the answer IMO is clearly NO.

If you then discount "premeditation" then it becomes all but impossible IMO that MP was abducted or killed at the condo. IMO

However if the same question above starts with "is it possible ..." and one is not constrained by having to produce any evidence, not even hearsay or second-hand accounts to support the theory, then the answer is clearly IMO YES.

From there you can extrapolate all kinds of theories including an Alien abduction, no pun intended.

I disagree. If you research how to pull a murder off without leaving DNA evidence you will find a whole host of ideas. We know Sr was researching missing persons cases...

Dale could have broken Michelle's neck in the garage and immediately wrapped her body leaving no evidence or he could have disabled her and took her somewhere to finish the job. Either way they would never find DNA evidence in his truck or condo... Again if premeditated all of this was thought out!

 

[Jazzmaster]

On "Buck Fuddy" it is 100% absolutely tied back to Dale and IMO LE has a copy of everything they need to prove it. No it doesn't prove Dale killed Michelle but pretty damaging IMO.

 

[telemag]

I disagree. If you research how to pull a murder off without leaving DNA evidence you will find a whole host of ideas. We know Sr was researching missing persons cases...

Dale could have broken Michelle's neck in the garage and immediately wrapped her body leaving no evidence or he could have disabled her and took her somewhere to finish the job. Either way they would never find DNA evidence in his truck or condo... Again if premeditated all of this was thought out!

Breaking someone's neck is not like it looks in the movies. It is not an easy thing to accomplsih in the slightest. As soon as Dale would have put his hands around her she would have tried to scratch him and no doubt would have been kicking and flailing. Also, from the pics I have seen Michelle had some wicked looking nails tha would have done some type of damage IMO.

 

[Jazzmaster]

Character issues, probably unsubstantiated, certainly not evidence one needs to convict.

But you have to admit all of his past COMBINED with what I believe LE already have and are still collected, if they reach the threshold of probable cause they likely will have enough to get him fried like a potato. Jmo

 

[telemag]

On "Buck Fuddy" it is 100% absolutely tied back to Dale and IMO LE has a copy of everything they need to prove it. No it doesn't prove Dale killed Michelle but pretty damaging IMO.

So it's not verifiable just your opinion then.

 

[SleuthDecay]

No need to ask Tim Miller IMO, everything that is DS is suspect and guilt-ish (sort of ... in some way anyway) until proven otherwise.

"Nejame says Dale didn't have time to kidnap her, dispose of her body and her hummer. But there was an hour and 20 minutes and what if someone else, like the dad, was involved?." -- Tim Miller

That quote is not from me, it's from Tim Miller. Rivera asked him why he backed out of the search and this was part of his reply. You're free to interpret it however you like, but it sure seems to me that he backed out because he didn't believe Dale's story. MOO.

Moving on.

 

[Thor]

I disagree. If you research how to pull a murder off without leaving DNA evidence you will find a whole host of ideas. We know Sr was researching missing persons cases...

Dale could have broken Michelle's neck in the garage and immediately wrapped her body leaving no evidence or he could have disabled her and took her somewhere to finish the job. Either way they would never find DNA evidence in his truck or condo... Again if premeditated all of this was thought out!

Dale could be responsible for the war in Afghanistan, and I could probably write a thesis on the subject, however if the issue is what happened to MP then simply concentrating on Dale becomes a quest to convict DS, an end onto itself to the exclusion of everything else, and that is something not even the police is doing IMO.

Moving on ...

 

[Jazzmaster]

Dale was trained to kill. Even though he flunked out of the military via a dishonorable discharge...he still knows how to kill a man or woman with his bare hands. BTW if you read thru the documents of Dale's arrest for his involvement in the murder of the lifeguard, you will see Dale and his friends crashed a party. During the party he crashed he snuck up behind an unarmed man and struck him with a chair. IMO he could have snuck up behind Michelle and did enough damage that she didn't have time to fight back...

He had a way with harming Michelle:


The missing woman, Michelle Parker, had a set of twins and a tumultuous relationship with ex-fiance Dale Smith. She was last seen dropping off the twins at Smith’s house.

At the time she vanished last Thursday, however, she was excited about a man she had been dating, her friend Angela Launer told ABCNews.com.

“I know he hurt her many times—dropped her off in areas with no shoes. Took off and left her in Georgia by herself,” Launer said in an emotional interview marked by tears and sobs.

Launer, 34, described the relationship that played out on national television as “rocky” and “tense.”

“He hurt my best friend,” she said. “I didn’t like him because he made her cry. No one should ever be treated that way.”

http://abcnews.go.com/US/michelle-p...moms-close-friend-describes/story?id=15015584

 

[Jazzmaster]

Dale could be responsible for the war in Afghanistan, and I could probably write a thesis on the subject, however if the issue is what happened to MP then simply concentrating on Dale becomes a quest to convict DS, an end onto itself to the exclusion of everything else, and that is something not even the police is doing IMO.

Moving on ...

I guess when the explanations point back to Dale they lead others and me to believe Dale is guilty. Not sure how else to explain it. Some bend over backwards to defend Dale and explain why it couldn't be Dale behind Michelle's disappearance. No... it wasn't the pit bull in the backyard that killed must have been the fly on the wall at the bar...

 

[southern_comfort]

On "Buck Fuddy" it is 100% absolutely tied back to Dale and IMO LE has a copy of everything they need to prove it. No it doesn't prove Dale killed Michelle but pretty damaging IMO.

For all we know, it could be true. Awfully immature to go about publicizing it in that way, I agree... but maybe he thought nobody would listen to him, since conclusions were already drawn.

 

[telemag]

After all this debate still not one piece of solid evidence against Dale or that a crime was even commited. For all we know Michelle could have ran away.

 

[telemag]

For all we know, it could be true. Awfully immature to go about publicizing it in that way, I agree... but maybe he thought nobody would listen to him, since conclusions were already drawn.

and for all we know it could be total rumor.

 

[Jazzmaster]

Buck Fuddy was linked to Dale upstream... it wasn't my opinion, but proven upstream and if you research online. It was soley MOO that LE received screencaps and all the info they needed to connect the dots .

 

[telemag]

Buck Fuddy was linked to Dale upstream... it wasn't my opinion, but proven upstream and if you research online. It was soley MOO that LE received screencaps and all the info they needed to connect the dots .

No offense, but I'm not going to research something that you post as fact when you are the one claiming it as one. At least show us it to be true or why bother posting it?

 

[Thor]

I guess when the explanations point back to Dale they lead others and me to believe Dale is guilty. Not sure how else to explain it. Some bend over backwards to defend Dale and explain why it couldn't be Dale behind Michelle's disappearance. No... it wasn't the pit bull in the backyard that killed must have been the fly on the wall at the bar...

If the dog barks and then it rains then the dog made it rain.

 

[Jazzmaster]

For all we know, it could be true. Awfully immature to go about publicizing it in that way, I agree... but maybe he thought nobody would listen to him, since conclusions were already drawn.

Um ok yeah people who cared about the missing person and had nothing to do with their disappearance go around calling the missing person a hooker all the time...can you name one other case where this were true?

 

[telemag]

Um ok yeah people who cared about the missing person and had nothing to do with their disappearance go around calling the missing person a hooker all the time...can you name one other case where this were true?

IF Dale was the one that posted it and even if he did are you saying that even Dale wouldn't be so cruel as to call Michelle a hooker if he was innocent? That kinda shows some compassion which you have stated many times Dale is not capable of.