FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #21

[missingm]

I have seen several timelines in which he reportedly called the salon at 3:30.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1126752.html
[ here is just one.]

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I believe that the early timeline was based on some misinformation and assumptions. The earliest was that he got home at 3:30pm, called grandma, then grandma immediately called police... and the brother texted where are you "presumably" because he had heard from grandma (Thank you Nancy Grace) Since them they have slowly changed it to everything starting at 6:50, and that the text from the brother was also to two other people for a ride, and the phone call has dropped in at least one timeline. That is my current understanding. Of course it wouldn't surprise me to see a new article out saying something completely different. :banghead:

 

[What'sThatClue]

I can totally see this. The guilty spouse is usually the more suspicious and paranoid of the two.

Do you have a link to the Buck F thing? I wanted to look into that a bit more. Would be one of the few times you would hear Dale "speak", and it might be insightful.

There is a long discussion about it on Thread 19, somewhere around page 19 or so

 

[Jazzmaster]

I can totally see this. The guilty spouse is usually the more suspicious and paranoid of the two.

Do you have a link to the Buck F thing? I wanted to look into that a bit more. Would be one of the few times you would hear Dale "speak", and it might be insightful.

You can go back to maybe thread 19? It's all spelled out there...IMO there are screenshots of the whole exchange and one showing Dale's AOL email address on the Buck Fuddy acct. You can also google it and some other sites have the connection as well. The gist of it was Dale saying to Michelle's wonderful stepmom GP...BTW who is a great lady if you haven't found out yet....that Michelle is a known escort and Gayle should go ask all of Michelle's clients where she is...No innocent person spreads that kind of filth to the innocent step mom of a missing person...cruel and evil IMO.

 

[telemag]

And I was answering your question. LE has stated that he is the only suspect IN THE ABDUCTION. But that does not make your assumption correct, that it shoots a hole in the accomplice theory. Just sayin...

Where did LE make a distinction as far as Dale being the only suspect in only the "ABDUCTION"?

 

[vibert]

BBM. IMO, that seems to be something you would tell your family so they don't worry. Maybe it starts out that way, but I can't believe that you can sustain a "mobile" business based on that. I wonder if she normally kept her tanning equipment at the salon. That would make a lot of sense of her text from that morning saying she would "grab" something and "do it" that seemed out of place. Did she have her equipment in her car?


The text message is in the timeline: Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #11

IDK, a woman I work with owns a spray tan business, and it does pretty well for being in this smallish town.

...but I do agree no way she had enough friends to keep a 'mobile' business going. She probably did spray tan strangers. I agree she probably just told her family that to appease them

 

[vibert]

Sorry to quote myself but now I'm seriously questioning why, & if it's even a fact at all, that Michelle would have her first time clients meet her at her Mother's salon knowing she advertised on her H3. & FB that it's a mobile tanning business. It's not located anywhere on the Strandz site that GLOW spray tanning is available, no tanning services are listed as of today's date 6/8/12, so myself being a consumer would totally hang up on somebody that suggested I meet her at her Mother's salon after being advertised that it's a mobile convenience.

Something's hinky...

Strandz website:
http://strandzsalon.co/index.php

Strandz services:
http://strandzsalon.co/services.php

I've gone through every single page, including links, and there's nothing at all mentioning tanning.

I felt funny when Michelle's sister quick answered that there would be backup if A got home but Michelle was running behind or what have you, almost made me feel as though it could have been done in the past but maybe they didn't want authorities or A's dad to know the 11 y/o son was home alone for fear he'd be taken away... Now I totally wonder why it was said that Michelle would bring first time clients to her mom's shop, sort of insinuating its bc she was being cautious of those she didn't know...but it's totally not at all what she advertised. Not in the least... If somebody lived in South Orlando & called Michelle for a tan, why would they wanna drive all the way to Oviedo just to have Michelle spray them knowing they could go to any tanning salon very near them to do the same? The only reason somebody would call a mobile tanning business would be for the sheer convenience. If its not convenient, they ain't calling, bc spray tan is all pretty similar. So why say she'd have her first time clients meet her at the salon? It doesn't make sense...

No way I'll ever find it again, but I did see a few months ago the spray tanning and the shop linked by doing a random web search. I can't remember if it was a cached page for the shop or an actual ad michelle placed somewhere. Maybe I googled the phone number from the decals?

 

[telemag]

I have seen several timelines in which he reportedly called the salon at 3:30.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1126752.html
[ here is just one.]

But I don't think that is the real issue. I think the main question is, what time did Michelle call him? Her sister said they always kept in close contact once school was out, because he walked home alone. He was only 11, and was in a new neighborhood.

So I know that Michelle would have called or texted to check on him after school. It was reported that she always did so.

The only reason it is important is to show that she was not driving around on her own power after 4:30, as dale claims. And in my opinion, she would have been texting or calling her boyfriend and her son. Especially if she was going to go shopping, instead of going home, which is what she had told her family she was going to do.

IMO this is not the main reason. If Michelle was so reliable as far as calling her son then why didn't YS get immediately alarmed at 3:30 and try to call Michelle? This would have maybe given LE a lot more chance of finding out what was going on and maybe finding Michelle sooner.

Look at it this way, if Michelle called her son everyday day like clockwork as has been claimed and out of the blue she didn't, I personally would have thought maybe she was in some type of accident and would have been going crazy trying to find her. So why wasn't anyone alarmed until after 6:30? Did YS try to call or text Michelle at 3:30? Did Michelle's sister try to call or text her at this time? I am trying to find out why the big time gap from 3:30 till after 6:30 that no one seemed too bothered that Michelle was not in contact with any of her family?

Also, her brother text her for a ride and he only got a response from Michelle's phone, why? Did Michelle's mom and sister have their phones off? Kind of doubtful since Michelle's son got thru to YS. A lot we don't know and I think is extremely relevant to why it took so long to start looking for Michelle.

 

[SleuthDecay]

IMO, the early reports of the 3:30 call were incorrect. According to Lauren, Michelle's son doesn't get off the bus until 3:45.

ERICKSON: But normally -- yes, no, I`m sorry. Normally he gets off the bus. He has a cell phone that he was given for Christmas one year. And he always -- you know he calls when he`s off the bus. If for any reason Michelle is not there, which she normally -- she usually is he calls her and says, hey, you know, I got off the bus, I`m walking to the house, and one of my aunts live right down the road and either she`ll come over to make sure that he`s got somebody with him. Or Michelle is like, hey, I`ll be home in 15 minutes or I`m almost there. But, you know, for it to come to 6:50 that night and he gets off the bus at 3:45 and she`s still wasn`t home. And that was when he called me to say, you know, have you seen my mom, because she hasn`t been home yet. And she would never leave her kids un-attended like that ever. I mean -- and especially not even call anybody to see -- you know, to make sure that somebody could get to him if she couldn`t.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1112/08/ng.01.html

 

[Jazzmaster]

IDK, a woman I work with owns a spray tan business, and it does pretty well for being in this smallish town.

...but I do agree no way she had enough friends to keep a 'mobile' business going. She probably did spray tan strangers. I agree she probably just told her family that to appease them

SO you're saying Michelle...the victim...lied to her family?

 

[telemag]

DUH. He has not even been arrested, let alone had a trial. :crazy:

Lol yeah makes about as much sense as Dale or anyone on here trying to prove his innocence. Bottom line, there is no evidence strong enough against Dale for an arrest so no one has to prove he is innocent.

 

[telemag]

SO you're saying Michelle...the victim...lied to her family?

I guess it all boils down to whether we believe Michelle advertised a mobile tanning business to the masses using Dales Hummer but turned down anyone that called her for a tan that she didn't know. What I'm curious about is why would Michelle need to advertise to people that she already knew? One other thing since it was I believe Michelle's sister that stated this it would not be Michelle who was lying but her sister since it would be second hand info.

 

[Jazzmaster]

Ok...since we had ANOTHER day of rain today...I spent some time mapping. I cross referenced abandon buildings, suspected wooded areas, sinkholes, landfills, 501st events, and spots near Dale's closest friends via FB, then I eliminated areas that were already searched (for now). Some of the previously searched areas, especially around Dale's condo should probably be searched again....JMO I also included a few spots I found from lots and lots of research. We will get to the bottom of this!

 

[southern_comfort]

I guess it all boils down to whether we believe Michelle advertised a mobile tanning business to the masses using Dales Hummer but turned down anyone that called her for a tan that she didn't know. What I'm curious about is why would Michelle need to advertise to people that she already knew?

I agree it doesn't make much sense.

 

[Thor]

Weather for Orlando on November 17th & 18th of 2011...

http://i.wund.com/auto/iphone/weath...LAN65&brand=iphone/&month=11&day=17&year=2011
Snip:
Daily Summary for November 17, 2011:
* High: Low:
Temp.: 82.9*°F / 28.3*°C 66.1*°F / 18.9*°C
Dew Point: 73.0*°F / 22.8*°C 53.0*°F / 11.7*°C
Humidity: 93% 59%
Wind Speed: 9.0mph / 14.5km/h -
Wind Gust: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h -
Pressure: 30.14in / 1020.5hPa 29.95in / 1014.1hPa
Precipitation: 0.00in / 0.0mm *


http://i.wund.com/auto/iphone/weath...LAN65&brand=iphone/&month=11&day=18&year=2011
Snip:
Daily Summary for November 18, 2011:
* High: Low:
Temp.: 75.2*°F / 24.0*°C 57.7*°F / 14.3*°C
Dew Point: 61.0*°F / 16.1*°C 51.0*°F / 10.6*°C
Humidity: 83% 53%
Wind Speed: 13.0mph / 20.9km/h -
Wind Gust: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h -
Pressure: 30.24in / 1023.9hPa 30.13in / 1020.2hPa
Precipitation: 0.00in / 0.0mm *

Thank you

 

[Spice]

Here is the link to her glow facebook... http://www.facebook.com/pages/GLOW/123605641075504

It is unproductive and not very "victim friendly" to suggest that she may have lied to her family about what she was doing with the business IMO.

Thank you for this post Kamille, I couldn't agree with you more.....yet another insinuation that Michelle was engaging in something untoward that put her in danger. First it is because she is a bartender and female bartenders are usually "slutty" and now its that she was doing something other than tanning parties for women with her tanning business.

Can we stop the stereotypical, wildly incorrect, sexist objectifying of women please? And more importantly, can the victim blaming stop? It's offensive in so many ways.

The victim here is Michelle who by all accounts was a hard working, family oriented, single mother of two, who was verbally, mentally, and physically abused by DALE and vanished, most likely from his driveway on the day his creepy personality was aired on National Television. Also on the day BEFORE Michelle was going to introduce her new boyfriend to her family, showing that she was finally after a long time, serious about someone other than Dale.

Futher, she had to had to bring him to court to force him to pay child support and stop shirking his responsibilities as a parent.

Michelle is the victim here NOT Dale. Nor is anyone "pinning" anything on him. He has been named the prime suspect in this case for a reason due to information we are not privy too. Dale is just fine. He has the kids and he still has his freedom. He is free to keep the children from their grandmother and make up fake facebook accounts with sophomoric names to taunt Michelle's family and accuse the mother of his children of being an "escort."

How can we find Michelle?

 

[SleuthDecay]

Thank you for this post Kamille, I couldn't agree with you more.....yet another insinuation that Michelle was engaging in something untoward that put her in danger. First it is because she is a bartender and female bartenders are usually "slutty" and now its that she was doing something other than tanning parties for women with her tanning business.

Can we stop the stereotypical, wildly incorrect, sexist objectifying of women please? And more importantly, can the victim blaming stop? It's offensive in so many ways.

The victim here is Michelle who by all accounts was a hard working, family oriented, single mother of two, who was verbally, mentally, and physically abused by DALE and vanished, most likely from his driveway on the day his creepy personality was aired on National Television. Also on the day BEFORE Michelle was going to introduce her new boyfriend to her family, showing that she was finally after a long time, serious about someone other than Dale.

Futher, she had to had to bring him to court to force him to pay child support and stop shirking his responsibilities as a parent.

Michelle is the victim here NOT Dale. Nor is anyone "pinning" anything on him. He has been named the prime suspect in this case for a reason due to information we are not privy too. Dale is just fine. He has the kids and he still has his freedom. He is free to keep the children from their grandmother and make up fake facebook accounts with sophomoric names to taunt Michelle's family and accuse the mother of his children of being an "escort."

How can we find Michelle?

THANK YOU! This needed to be said, IMO, and you said it very well!

 

[telemag]

<modsnip>

<modsnip> At this stage unfortunatly I do not think there is a way to find Michelle. IMO I think that she is gone forever sadly. I can only imagine if she ever is found the state of decay she must be in. This is assuming that she is dead which is most likey the case although stranger things have happened. Also, if she is found I highly doubt that there will be any evidence to speak of unless of course she is found on Dale's property. I said a few months ago that I thought there a good chance that this case would become a cold case and I really hope I am wrong. Maybe Dale got lucky and was able to commit the perfect crime, but I just don't see how he was able to pull all this off even with help.

 

[beach]

MOD WARNING!

What the heck am I reading on here?!?

MICHELLE PARKER IS THE VICTIM!!!

NOT Dale Smith, Jr. OR Dale Smith, Sr. If you've got some PLAUSIBLE scenario with some sort of FACTUAL BASIS, then that is one thing. But NO ONE gets to trash a victim OR the victim's family here. NO ONE.

This is a VICTIM FRIENDLY FORUM and I am reading all kind of UNFOUNDED insinuations that are based on NOTHING FACTUAL IN THE LEAST.

Knock it off now!

I am furious at some of the talk on this thread. Issuing Time Outs.

 

[beach]

And while I am at it, let me make another thing clear -

This is not the "Defend Dale" thread. It is fine if you don't believe he is guilty. FINE. However, Dale is sitting just fine right now. He does not need anyone's help here at Websleuths. He is a free man with custody of the twins.

That said, if anyone has something substantial to offer that would HELP FIND MICHELLE AND LEAD TO THE ARREST OF THE PERSON WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE REASON SHE IS MISSING, I encourage you to please share that theory.

Again, this thread has gotten FAR off track here. This thread is NOT about defending Dale Smith, Jr. You are free to post REASONS BASED ON FACT of why you feel he is not responsible, that is about it though.

Again, Dale is sitting free and doing just fine at home with the twins. He does not need the help of the members here.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

With all the talk insinuating that Dale Sr is involved as an accomplice, it makes me wonder how Michelle felt about them (Dale's parents & family) & visa versa. Does anyone know if they had a good relationship or was it strained between them?