Found Deceased FL - Sandra Lemire, 47, Orlando, 8 May 2012

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I was thinking maybe a "friend of a friend" any thing on any of the pages, where they hung out, or shopped, something that would connect them in some way. I know it is a lonnnnnng shot, but you have to check all angles.

She barely shows friends on her FB pages so I'm thinking she might have outsiders blocked from viewing certain things, such as her friends. Or maybe she just uses her FB for the apps she utilizes but maybe blocks the postings of most of them? Idk just brainstorming...
 
Too bad granny doesn't post here, she would maybe know her stomping grounds..
 
Waitasec!

Does Sandra live with her grandmother in Orlando or in Lakeland as first suggested?

http://m.411.com/Details.aspx?Ref=PeopleSearch&uid=4i2h4nr&sid=k5ytvcmeuqvlykb42h2w3pvq
Sandra Lemire
510 Saddle Bag Ln
Lakeland, FL 33801

Or, is this the address?
2505 Windward Ct
Orlando, FL 32805

Sandra's grandmother specifically said that Sandra always had her dates meet her at home as her grandmom would normally get to meet them. Well, her gmom lives in Orlando, & it's been reported Sandra lived on Windward Ct, but 411 informs her address is in Lakeland. That address shows a business run by a relative of hers is at the same address. Was Sandra living between both homes? The one in Lakeland is a trailer, not sure about the one in Orlando, not sure of sq ft for each.
 
Bern, I am not saying that if Sandra passed out and ran off the road there would definitely be no tracks. I am only saying this its possible for there to be no tracks, since if she was passed out, she would not be able to apply the brakes. Not applying the brakes usually means no rubber tracks off the roadway. You might have some type of tracks, such as tires running over sand, but nothing that would alert LE or other motorists to there being an accident.

I remember a couple cases where people ran off the road and their cars were not found until much later. Here is one that made the press big time:
http://www.katu.com/news/10095551.html
 
This is what I envision, LOL, can you believe it? As we speak it happens. Sorry not funny but really can they not stay on the road!

http://www.baynews9.com/



I just watched the video of the hero and he said the guy may have had low sugar and passed out. Iks!
 
Waitasec!

Does Sandra live with her grandmother in Orlando or in Lakeland as first suggested?

http://m.411.com/Details.aspx?Ref=PeopleSearch&uid=4i2h4nr&sid=k5ytvcmeuqvlykb42h2w3pvq
Sandra Lemire
510 Saddle Bag Ln
Lakeland, FL 33801

Or, is this the address?
2505 Windward Ct
Orlando, FL 32805

Sandra's grandmother specifically said that Sandra always had her dates meet her at home as her grandmom would normally get to meet them. Well, her gmom lives in Orlando, & it's been reported Sandra lived on Windward Ct, but 411 informs her address is in Lakeland. That address shows a business run by a relative of hers is at the same address. Was Sandra living between both homes? The one in Lakeland is a trailer, not sure about the one in Orlando, not sure of sq ft for each.

I was going by the Windward Ct in Orlando, but she did have a fb with Lakeland as her home in FL.
 
But why no cell phone pings? Or at least no info about pings released. That would give searchers at least a starting place. Strange.
 
But why no cell phone pings? Or at least no info about pings released. That would give searchers at least a starting place. Strange.

Exactly. Nobody has any idea where to search. Police have to say more. Even if they just say that her phone never pinged and there were no phone calls or texts sent or received. Searchers would need a starting point of some kind.
 
Over a month later and the tire tracks or lack thereof is a moot point really.

If any of the locals want to start organizing to post flyers I would be happy to make phone calls to Office Supply stores and printers in regards to donating flyers.

As far as searches, IMO the best that could be done at this point is to start with the McDonalds address and work outward checking along roadways and canals etc...
If they are going to search I would recommend getting on with it as rainy season is upon us and what is dry now may not be in the near future.

The family really does need to reach out to TES, LRC or CUE etc...
Does Team Adam search for adults or just children? If anybody knows.

Who in the family is here in FL besides Gma?

Sorry, more questions than answers at this point.

ETA: At this point, it would help if people would just drive parking lots and rule them out as the car not being there.
Airport parking lots, malls, grocery stores etc... this can be done while posting flyers as we have the tag number.
That is, providing the tag has not been changed, ugh. It would be helpful to know if the vehicle has any unique markings, dents, scratches, wheels or bumper stickers.

All of the above is just my own personal opinion.
 
Over a month later and the tire tracks or lack thereof is a moot point really.

If any of the locals want to start organizing to post flyers I would be happy to make phone calls to Office Supply stores and printers in regards to donating flyers.

As far as searches, IMO the best that could be done at this point is to start with the McDonalds address and work outward checking along roadways and canals etc...
If they are going to search I would recommend getting on with it as rainy season is upon us and what is dry now may not be in the near future.

The family really does need to reach out to TES or CUE etc...
Does Team Adam search for adults or just children? If anybody knows.

Who in the family is here in FL besides Gma?

Sorry, more questions than answers at this point.

ETA: At this point, it would help if people would just drive parking lots and rule them out as the car not being there.
Airport parking lots, malls, grocery stores etc...

All of the above is just my own personal opinion.

Are there any flyers already in existence that anyone knows of?

Would the permission of the family be needed to make up flyers? I would think so but not sure...
 
It is very dark on the highways and roads here. That was one thing I noticed when I got here. There are many times me and my husband traveled from Orando to Tampa and the trip at night was hard on the eyes. You have to pay attention and if it rains it is worse. The pavement is black, no street lights or they are far apart and many times you are the only one on the road for miles. I would never stop to pick up anyone or pull off to help, I would call 911, that is it.

It really depends on where she was driving. If she stayed on the main roads she should have been okay. Since there seem to be some references to Lakeland, perhaps she was headed there? She'd likely take I-4 at least part of the way there and that is an easy drive IMO. I go back and forth on the I-4 corridor a lot and feel very safe there. Lots of Road Rangers and LE always along the route. I'd look more at the side/country roads where a car could go off the road and not be seen. One of the most common problems, IMO, is veering off the road to avoid hitting deer. This happened to me about two years ago. Luckily my car and I were both okay (and the deer), but by the time I came to a stop I was well off the road and into some trees and brush. Luckily there was a guy in a pickup not far behind me. He and a friend where able to help me get my car back on the road and on my way. I'm still always leery of driving in the dark (I live in a pretty rural area...lots of deer) as quite a few of my friends have also gone off the road avoiding deer. Just a thought.
 
Over a month later and the tire tracks or lack thereof is a moot point really.

If any of the locals want to start organizing to post flyers I would be happy to make phone calls to Office Supply stores and printers in regards to donating flyers.

As far as searches, IMO the best that could be done at this point is to start with the McDonalds address and work outward checking along roadways and canals etc...
If they are going to search I would recommend getting on with it as rainy season is upon us and what is dry now may not be in the near future.

The family really does need to reach out to TES, LRC or CUE etc...
Does Team Adam search for adults or just children? If anybody knows.

Who in the family is here in FL besides Gma?

Sorry, more questions than answers at this point.

ETA: At this point, it would help if people would just drive parking lots and rule them out as the car not being there.
Airport parking lots, malls, grocery stores etc... this can be done while posting flyers as we have the tag number.
That is, providing the tag has not been changed, ugh. It would be helpful to know if the vehicle has any unique markings, dents, scratches, wheels or bumper stickers.

All of the above is just my own personal opinion.


Respectfully, I don't think there are any moot points in this case at all. Everything is open for consideration and discussion since we have nothing to go on. I think an accident is as likely, if not more so, than abduction if for no other reason than statistical facts.

What I don't understand is why LE can't track Sandra's vehicle movements from the McDonald's using various surveillance footage at local businesses. I know this would be time-consuming. However, they did this in the Mickey Shunick case, and while it has not resulted in LE finding her at this point in that investigation, it has helped them narrow down a few possibilities and also kept the public looking for those particular vehicles in the case. Attracting and keeping public interest in these cases seems to be the key in finding a solution.

If we could simply see which direction Sandra travelled as she left McDonald's then we might be able to reason whether she was headed home or to another location. Shopping would be out at 9:30 or 10:30 pm...at least in the malls. They are closed by then. Where else could Sandra have gone...if not for another date? But would she meet another date that late in the evening, especially without calling home? Could someone have followed her from McDonald's?

Posters and flyers are certainly helpful (and in several cases, extremely so) but I think they are, generally speaking, the least helpful of all other venues for recovering the missing. I think LE has the best resources for finding out what happened to Sandra. They just need to expend them.

I agree with others here who have suggested trying to get Sandra's story on JVM or even local news stations. Also, contacting some professional search groups might prove fruitful.
 
Respectfully, I don't think there are any moot points in this case at all. Everything is open for consideration and discussion since we have nothing to go on. I think an accident is as likely, if not more so, than abduction if for no other reason than statistical facts.

What I don't understand is why LE can't track Sandra's vehicle movements from the McDonald's using various surveillance footage at local businesses. I know this would be time-consuming. However, they did this in the Mickey Shunick case, and while it has not resulted in LE finding her at this point in that investigation, it has helped them narrow down a few possibilities.

If we could simply see which direction Sandra travelled as she left McDonald's then we might be able to reason whether she was headed home or to another location. Shopping would be out at 9:30 or 10:30 pm...at least at the malls. They are closed by then. Where else could Sandra have gone...if not for another date? But would she meet another date that late in the evening, especially without calling home? Could someone have followed her from McDonald's?

Posters and flyers are certainly helpful (and in several cases, extremely so) but I think they are, generally speaking, the least helpful of all other venues for recovering the missing. I think LE has the best resources for finding out what happened to Sandra. They just need to expend them.

I agree with others here who have suggested trying to get Sandra's story on JVM or even local news stations. Also, contacting some professional search groups might prove fruitful.
My apologies but I only mean to say that it would be rare to find tire tracks leading off the road at this late date unless they were initially very deep tracks. Had searches been started early on tracks would have been a good thing to look for. Now...not so much. Now, every foot of roadway and footage off road needs to be checked without regard to tracks or lack thereof.

Apologies if I offended. It is probably due to the fact that I write so minimally and what is in writing does not have benefit of seeing facial expression/responses etc...

Again, apologies.

BBL
 
My apologies but I only mean to say that it would be rare to find tire tracks leading off the road at this late date unless they were initially very deep tracks. Had searches been started early on tracks would have been a good thing to look for. Now...not so much. Now, every foot of roadway and footage off road needs to be checked without regard to tracks or lack thereof.

Apologies if I offended. It is probably due to the fact that I write so minimally and what is in writing does not have benefit of seeing facial expression/responses etc...

Again, apologies.

BBL

I agree with what you are saying. No need to apologize to me, dsntslp!
I think we are all on the same page here....trying our best to reason what could have happened.

I am frustrated with LE. I do believe that Sandra's tendency to date many men met through online encounters has effected their response to her case.

I would love to see an update where they had reviewed her computer and phone records...and attempted to follow her directions through surveillance. These are pretty much standard procedures so I would be especially surprised to find they didn't follow through on these. If they did, then we have not received any new information to assist us in locating Sandra. Either way, nothing new is coming forward to help find her...and that is irritating and sad.
 
Her middle name is Lee. I'm wondering if we should try doing records searches from the areas she's lived in. Might not even matter, just grasping at anything at this point. Maybe OPD really is working on this endlessly, but they were more in our faces for other missing women - why not Sandra? What have they done? Why no updates? Can we call the OPD & ask for an update? I don't think they owe us that but maybe worth a try... Seems as though there aren't any searches, so maybe that implies they didn't get her cell re Ross back yet? Idk. It doesn't seem real that if the cops are doing their jobs to the best of their ability that there wouldn't be searches going on. Kwim? No bashfest, seriously, it's just surreal that so much is done for others but very little for those that don't fit the bill. I honestly don't understand.

Anyway, her mylife from Michigan...

http://www.mylife.com/sandraleelemire

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Sandra Lemire
Location: TAYLOR, MI
URL: mylife.com/sandralemi4597u
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Age:47
Gender:Female
Places Lived: Kissimmee, FL
Ecorse, MI
Southgate, MI

Sandra Lemire was born in 1965. Sandra currently lives in Taylor, Michigan. Before that, she lived in Kissimmee, FL from 1995 to 1995. Before that, she lived in Ecorse, MI from 2006 to 2007.
 
Do we know what took her back to Florida? Also, wish we knew why she wasn't working. Sounds like she had a lot of time on her hands...and perhaps was looking for extra companionship to fill it.
 
Do we know what took her back to Florida? Also, wish we knew why she wasn't working. Sounds like she had a lot of time on her hands...and perhaps was looking for extra companionship to fill it.

Yeah. There's actually 2 reasons given in the media articles. Here they are:

She moved to FL a few years ago to help take care of her grandmother after she went through a series of surgeries.

She moved to FL a few years ago after her long term boyfriend died from an ongoing medical illness he suffered from.

Take your pick. I'm pretty frustrated & truly wish the powers to be would get their facts straight before going to print. I mean seriously, don't they want this lady found for crying out loud?
 
It really depends on where she was driving. If she stayed on the main roads she should have been okay. Since there seem to be some references to Lakeland, perhaps she was headed there? She'd likely take I-4 at least part of the way there and that is an easy drive IMO. I go back and forth on the I-4 corridor a lot and feel very safe there. Lots of Road Rangers and LE always along the route. I'd look more at the side/country roads where a car could go off the road and not be seen. One of the most common problems, IMO, is veering off the road to avoid hitting deer. This happened to me about two years ago. Luckily my care and I were both okay (and the deer), but by the time I came to a stop I was well off the road and into some trees and brush. Luckily there was a guy in a pickup not far behind me. He and a friend where able to help me get my car back on the road and on my way. I'm still always leery of driving in the dark (I live in a pretty rural area...lots of deer) as quite a few of my friends have also gone off the road avoiding deer. Just a thought.

But what about her grandmom saying that Sandra told her she'd call her grandmom as soon as she left, and that this was always a habit of hers? She never called her grandmom to let her know how the date went or that she was on her way home.
 
But what about her grandmom saying that Sandra told her she'd call her grandmom as soon as she left, and that this was always a habit of hers? She never called her grandmom to let her know how the date went or that she was on her way home.

So do you think something happened to distract her and she never got the chance to call? Maybe she got into her van, received a call, and while pulling out or driving, some thing happened. Could be she veered off the road, someone stopped her and they could have posed as a cop or ranger and got into her van and made her drive. I mean that is a possibility. We had a guy posing as a cop and he was stopping woman and raping them. Or she decided to meet up with another guy and it was a huge mistake.
 

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