FL - Sarah Boone, 42, charged with murdering boyfriend Jorge Torres, 42, by leaving him locked in suitcase, Winter Park, Feb 2020

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Like many of you, I think SB is married to drama. IMO if the judge told her she was free to leave, no charges, no nothing, she'd argue with him.

Here's the thing about arguing. For people with a really low threshold for maturity, arguing is a way to force engagement. This whole case has become her newest partner. She's grown addicted to it. The injustice collecting, the celebrity status (largely only in her head) (not in a good way anywhere else), the smug self-righteousness, even the canned soft spokenness.

Hair and makeup. She thinks she's on stage.

Well, Honey. Show's almost over. Next up: prison.

JMO
BBM

This is so true!! And the story of my life. The more you try to avoid these immature, difficult personalities like SB, the more they will be drawn to you. Esp if you can’t completely cut them out of your life like co-worker etc. SB is a master at prolonging the interaction needlessly by acting confused. A common tactic in addition to arguing. Ugh!
 
What is really lacking from SB is any normal emotion IMO.

If it was "a game" and she fell asleep/passed out, only to discover his death upon awakening, where's the horror? The devastation? The "omg, what have I done?"

I think we see instead how much she cared. She didn't. She doesn't.

I do think, in a real sense, it was a game to Sarah, just not in the sense she says. I think she felt she was winning, she showed him, she put him in his place, as it were. To humiliate, torture.

It directly resulted in his death.

She's an adult. She had to know it could interfere with his breathing, he could suffocate. They'd both been drinking, he could easily have asphyxiated on vomit. Human to human, she had a duty of care, in particular because she contributed to the precarious position he was in. Frankly, if she'd left him inebriated in a hot tub, IMO she'd still be party to a drowning death. Criminally negligent homicide. Had she left him in a garage with the motor running, same.

In SB's head, however, she is never wrong. She didn't spill the milk, you filled the glass too full.

Was SB too drunk to make lucid decisions herself? That might have been a defense worth pursuing, if there is such a thing, but IMO one has to take a wide perspective here.
She knew he couldn't get out of the suitcase himself, or he would have. Did she expect him to sleep it off? No one believes it was hide-n-seek. He was supposed to come find her in her ... bed? Uh, Sarah. That's not a good hiding spot. It's the opposite of hiding.

She purposefully left him in a preposterously dangerous position which resulted in his death where the risk of suffocation was high and it was obvious.

I don't see, given the video and her interviews, how a battered spouse defense can work. In her favor, that is. I think it works against her. If it was a response to a real, perceived or even protracted fear, why in heaven's name which she stay on site? Risk him getting out and coming after her, doubly provoked?

It wasn't self-defense. It was a power move. Had he lived somehow, you think she was going to start her morning letting him out and apologizing for leaving him there? More likely, making him beg for air.

She may well feel he deserved his fate, but that's not the legal standard. If she left him dangling over a pit of alligators...

And his many times have we heard it from drunk drivers after car accidents with fatalities? "I didn't mean to". Criminal vehicular suicide.

SB is no less culpable for this death than if she's pushed him in the water and filmed and taunted him as he drowned, regardless of the point at which she walked away.

Sarah, on the stand, will be the star the high school musical in her head. Poised, soft-spoken, harmless. Playing acting. I don't see it enough to over come Sarah, from her cellphone. Taunting a man as he lay dying.

What verdict the jurors attach to that remains to be seen.

JMO
 
What is really lacking from SB is any normal emotion IMO.

If it was "a game" and she fell asleep/passed out, only to discover his death upon awakening, where's the horror? The devastation? The "omg, what have I done?"
^^rsbm

Of all the word salad from SB, and there's been much of it, the only thing that's been constant was not sadness or remorse-- but more of an after-thought: "It wasn't intentional" [for him to die] "We were just playing." "This was a good day."

No Sarah, it was not a good day. Jorge Torres was zipped inside a suitcase, could not breath, repeatedly told you so, you blamed him, and he suffocated to death.
 
"Are you trying to make it worse?" :oops:


"That was not my intent." #SarahBoone tells detectives "I miss [Jorge Torres] a lot" and that it's "punishment enough" she has to live with her boyfriend being left to die in a suitcase.
#CourtTV WATCH LIVE - #SuitcaseMurderTrial begins October 7!
“I missed Jorge a lot”

I’m pretty sure you missed your Dr. Pepper a lot more since you asked for it a lot more than you did for any knowledge or information regarding the status of your boyfriend who EMT and LE were still working on

“I have to live with what I did. That is punishment enough”
Yet the things you did is why Jorge doesn’t get to live. In an attempt to punish him you also sentenced his daughter, parents and brother. Where is their justice? Where’s Jorge’s? You still expect to live freely while carrying your guilt whereas you decided that Jorge had to suffocate alone and entrapped because of his

“I can’t sleep”
Unfortunately that wasn’t your problem two nights ago according to your statement because otherwise maybe you would have been alert enough to save Jorge and let him breathe

“Are you trying to make it worse”
Were you when you flipped over the suitcase?
 
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Somehow i missed it, my apologies. What time Monday?

I don't believe we'll be able to watch anything on Monday since that is jury selection. I expect that CourtTV will start their livestream coverage once the jury is selected, which the judge said he thought would be possibly Tuesday afternoon or more likely on Wednesday.
 
Owens filed a motion today to exclude particular pieces of the 2 hour interrogation as he wasn't successful in getting the entire thing excluded from the trial. His reasons include "lack of relevance", "improper character evidence", and " improper opinion testimony by a Law Enforcement Officer". He adds that the pieces he wants excluded are because "the value of such evidence is substantially outweighed by the danger of unfair prejudice, confusion of the issues, misleading the jury, and would serve only to inflame the jury."

The portions he wants excluded are too long to list here but are available in the motion filed today, 10/6: Orange County Clerk of Courts Records Search
 
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Central Florida is preparing for a hurricane and some neighboring county schools have already indicated they will be closed Weds. Orange County is making a decision tomorrow. All that to say, I’m guessing there will be a delay in proceedings at some point stemming from the hurricane.
 
Owens is coming off like a vexatious litigant filing time wasting motions IMO
It surely ought to be stopped?

The basis for all these time wasting arguments seems to not be in order to uphold justice and ensure a fair trial but to make the point 'if you hadn't asked SB those questions...' and 'if you hadn't got a hold of SB's phone...' then she'd not be accused of murder. She's accused of murder because she murdered someone. Tortured and murdered even.
 
Owens filed a motion today to exclude particular pieces of the 2 hour interrogation as he wasn't successful in getting the entire thing excluded from the trial. His reasons include "lack of relevance", "improper character evidence", and " improper opinion testimony by a Law Enforcement Officer". He adds that the pieces he wants excluded are because "the value of such evidence is substantially outweighed by the danger of unfair prejudice, confusion of the issues, misleading the jury, and would serve only to inflame the jury."

The portions he wants excluded are too long to list here but are available in the motion filed today, 10/6: Orange County Clerk of Courts Records Search
Link to Defendants Motion in Limine to exclude certain parts of the interview https://myeclerk.myorangeclerk.com/...ItzTROBvSGENc11GmVw3kcqqnmT1GQqVtR8BNyjRJmw==

I think right now Owens is yelling “come on Hurricane Milton!” It looks like a bad one.
 
“Sarah, Sarah…”

“That’s my name, don’t wear it out”. This was clearly to torture him.

To me that speaks volumes, she was relishing in the chance to make him suffer. That sentence would not have been spoken by her if she had feelings of a normal person.

It’s a combative statement, condescending and zero empathy for what he was suffering.

She reminds me of Kathy Bates in that torturous movie. Was it Mystic River?
 
“Sarah, Sarah…”

“That’s my name, don’t wear it out”. This was clearly to torture him.

To me that speaks volumes, she was relishing in the chance to make him suffer. That sentence would not have been spoken by her if she had feelings of a normal person.

It’s a combative statement, condescending and zero empathy for what he was suffering.

She reminds me of Kathy Bates in that torturous movie. Was it Mystic River?
Misery.
 
Owens has filed *another* amended motion today to suppress the two hour interrogation. This time, he included some case law and citations! Only took him an initial filing and then two amended filings to get that included. Orange County Clerk of Courts Records Search

My notes/observations from today's hearing:

The judge has watched the entire two hour interrogation video prior to today's hearing. The female detective (CK) who interviewed Sarah is in the courtroom to testify. Owens asks CK if she agrees she didn't read out the last line on the Miranda card when reading the rights to Sarah. The state objects. The judge says to Owens, "Of the case law you provided to me, none of it stands for the proposition. Miranda identifies the four things that need to be addressed. Not one of the cases talks about the issue of not reading that language at the bottom of the card... So how is it relevant for today?" Owens gives up on questioning CK for awhile and debates the judge on this issue. Owens, seeming to be grasping at straws here, argues it means Sarah was coerced into being interrogated and CK's intent was to deceive Sarah into talking.

Owens goes back to questioning CK. She says she's had the same physical Miranda card, issued by the department, for a few years and it does not contain the last question that Owens is referring to ("With these rights in mind, do you wish to speak to me?"). CK says there are multiple version of Miranda cards that the department uses and the one she has doesn't have that question on it. Owens continues with questions and the state repeatedly objects on the grounds of relevance and the judge rules many of the objections as sustained.

The judge finally says that the question "With these rights in mind, do you wish to speak to me?" are not part of Miranda. Case law about Miranda list what's required and that question is not part of it, so what's Owens even going on about? Owens admits this but continues arguing that CK failed to do her job by not asking if Sarah *wanted* to talk after being read the rights and "the court should consider" that. Owens seems like he's floundering here, IMO.

CK is dismissed. Then Owens calls Sarah up to testify! She says she was worried, confused, hungover, etc. when being questioned by CK which Owens seems to want to imply those factors may have influenced her agreement to talk to CK. The state objects as none of that was in his written motion to suppress. The judge isn't happy with Owens playing "20 questions" with Sarah. The state comes up to cross examine Sarah and gets her to admit that she was under the influence of alcohol (still, from the night before) when she was interviewed by CK. The state argues that Sarah's memory isn't reliable as she was under the influence of alcohol and as such, she can't be a reliable witness in this hearing.

The judge will review everything and provide his decision in a written motion by the end of day tomorrow.

Regarding the motion for Sarah to have her makeup done, hair styled, clothing provided, and no restraints for the trial, the judge says Owens can coordinate with the jail staff to drop off clothing for Sarah to wear on the trial days but she will be wearing leg restraints. Owens says he has "two females on the team" who can do Sarah's hair and makeup. The judge initially says Owens's staff can do Sarah's hair and makeup in the court room after Sarah is brought in but before court is called to order, but then court staff says Sarah would be brought back to the jail at the end of the day with makeup on which would be contraband so having makeup put on in the court room isn't going to happen.

They move on. The judge wants to talk about Owens's witness list that included staff from the state attorney's office, and the state's subsequent motion to prevent these people from testifying due to state laws protecting them. Owens wants to have them testify about Sarah and Jorge's past arrest history and whether or not Sarah requested DV charges against Jorge be dropped, which the state then says is protected information they cannot provide in testimony. The judge says he'll provide a written decision on this by tomorrow, too.
Appreciating your summaries very much @sasha17. Thank you!

Bouncing off your post:
Hopefully will be able to watch some of this trial live. Can't see how she won't be going down. Haven't been able to follow closely lately but Mr Owens is taking on an impossible task here imo. I guess I give him some kudos for attempting what appears to be the impossible after Sarah Boone (rightfully imo) lost the right to another public defender. Perhaps he is a masochist wrapped up in martyr's clothing...
 
“Sarah, Sarah…”

“That’s my name, don’t wear it out”. This was clearly to torture him.

To me that speaks volumes, she was relishing in the chance to make him suffer. That sentence would not have been spoken by her if she had feelings of a normal person.

It’s a combative statement, condescending and zero empathy for what he was suffering.

She reminds me of Kathy Bates in that torturous movie. Was it Mystic River?

Also 'F you!' and 'that's how I feel when you cheat on me...'

Considering there's not much footage, IMO she's provided plenty of evidence to show deliberate and intentional cruelty / torture and given the motive too - revenge.

There's also some of the interview we haven't yet seen. There's a part of something where she reports that after she hid for a while and JT hadn't looked for her she went looking for him and says 'oh you didn't come look for me, I'm going to zip you in!'. Which makes no sense (who was 'seeking' who and why would they both be hiding at the same time).

Did she trick JT into the suitcase or force him in when he was worse for wear or disoriented?
 
Potential jurors are outside the courtroom waiting for jury selection to start. We are not allowed to broadcast jury selection. We are waiting to see how the latest hurricane will impact opening statements as that storm is set to hit that area Wed/Thurs.

 
Also 'F you!' and 'that's how I feel when you cheat on me...'

Considering there's not much footage, IMO she's provided plenty of evidence to show deliberate and intentional cruelty / torture and given the motive too - revenge.

There's also some of the interview we haven't yet seen. There's a part of something where she reports that after she hid for a while and JT hadn't looked for her she went looking for him and says 'oh you didn't come look for me, I'm going to zip you in!'. Which makes no sense (who was 'seeking' who and why would they both be hiding at the same time).

Did she trick JT into the suitcase or force him in when he was worse for wear or disoriented?
She is toast, and hasn't even made it to trial yet. jmo
 
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