Will I wake up in the morning, look at all these posts and wonder what in the hell I was thinking?
I've given up on LE releasing anything because they don't want to release something that ends up being evidence.
And so ... I have to go with my theory. Which is keeping me awake much later than I should be. God knows I need my beauty sleep ... and everyone elses.
MammaD, I checked foreclosure house and owner is listed as an equity trust company.
http://www.qpublic.net/cgi-bin/clay_display.cgi?KEY=08-04-26-019911-002-01
Might get you there. If not, 019911-002-01, is the parcel number and that will work from http://www.ccpao.com/search1.html.
I hope that works. I've edited the bejesus out of this post.
Dang ... well basically you need to find the link that will get you to a search by parcel number. If I found it this late at night the rest of you ought to be able to do it in the morning.
http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-11-07/story/traffic_up_at_the_state_web_site_that_shows_where_convicted_sexual
[snipped...]In the wake of the mid-October killing of 7-year-old Somer Thompson as she walked home from her Orange Park school, some have wondered if a sexual offender was involved. That may have sparked some of the increase in people logging onto the Florida Sexual Offenders and Predators Registry online at offender.fdle.state.fl.us to find out how many of the state's registered 52,000 sexual offenders and predators are in their neighborhoods. A similar search can be done at jacksonville.com/databases/news/sexual_offenders.
State officials say searches on the sexual offenders Web site jumped from 634,233 in September to 666,818 in October, while calls to its telephone hot-line - (888) 357-7332 - went up by 268 in the same period. The same thing has happened in the wake of other high-profile cases involving kidnapped or murdered children, said FDLE spokeswoman Kristin Perezluha.
From MommaD, last thread - Hopetohelp this is a very good theory.. but just some questions and comments..
Do you think this WRD could be linked to Somer somehow? say he tried to get a loan at a certain loan business or knew the guy at the loan business??
I see some drug charges on him... Do you think he could of been selling ???
could of visited someone that day ??? A sale gone bad during lunch?
From his charges it seems he is a hot head and doesn't plan out things .. just spur of moment stuff..
Maybe sorta friendly with certain ppl to get info as to children etcc... ??
I don't see this WRD with patience to sit and watch his prey.. I could be wrong very much so but I see him as to flighty...
Maybe he borrowed cars... Is there anyway you could place him in Somer's area in your theory???
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I do have to wonder if he somehow knew the family, at least in passing, in some capacity. Either - did he have friends in the neighborhood, or maybe he sold pot. Don't know. Would love to see a tie in though. He was in Piny Hills, which is about 7 miles from Somer's and I don't know how far from the school. This guy is a driver though. He likes to move around both instate and out of state.
Sometimes workers in construction have been known to partake of certain illegal substances, so absolutely he could have been selling to someone in the neighborhood. What's interesting to me though is that he was staying at a house where he rented a room and only people trying to stay sober from drugs or alcohol are generally accepted there. Add that to the fact that there is apparently and AA meeting somewhere in or close to Somer's neighborhood and then there is a real possibility he could have been in and out of the area where the meetings took place.
Yeah, you're right. Absolutely no impulse control with this guy and when he gets angry he lashes out both physically and sexually. And he was under a lot of stress. One weird thing though... it seems that he may have stalked the girl at the car place for three or four days before snatching her. AND he parked a few blocks away and then walked to her office. This is the exact same thing he did when he broke into his ex gf's house to assault her. That speaks of premeditation. But once he got to the car office, he couldn't assault her or force her at knifepoint UNTIL he was suitably worked up anger wise. Which is really interesting. AND he made no attempt to cover that it was he who had taken her since the girl called her boss's wife right in front of him. This guy is mentally not well.
I wonder too if the construction guys knew him, or where he did his telemarketing (which I expect may have consisted of scams to get credit card #'s judging from his past criminal hx). Ok. too sleepy to go on tonight. Night all!
http://jacksonville.com/opinion/editorials/2009-11-07/story/predators_keeping_kids_safe
How do we keep our children safe?
Those eternal fears of all parents were brought to the surface recently when Somer Renee Thompson was killed in Orange Park.
In some neighborhoods, children aren't allowed outside alone, as if they are on house arrest.
Yet, as parents, you can't and shouldn't do everything for your child.
That balancing act is the subject of today's comments from members of our E-Mail Interactive Group. To join, send an e-mail to: carol.boone@jacksonville.com.
Seven steps to safety
As a mother of a 10-year-old boy, my anxieties are high and nerves are on edge.
I think some of the most important things to stress are:
1. Stay in groups.
2. Never approach anyone in a car unless you clearly know the person.
3. Always stay on main, well-traveled roads. Avoid shortcuts.
4. Cross roads where there are crossing guards if possible.
5. Take a self-defense class.
6. Be aware of your surroundings and who is around you.
7. Be purposeful and show confidence. Predators look for the weak. - MARIA MARK, Jacksonville.
More patrols
One community I lived in, Iowa City, used school patrols at intersections along the way. - ALLEN TILLEY, Jacksonville.
More carpools
We have a 12-year-old who is dropped off and picked up each day via car by one of us.
If we can't do it, she will only ride with a parent she knows. We are lucky that there are six other households in the immediate neighborhood that carpool with us.
We have a 9-year-old who rides his bike to school with his buddies each day. My wife tails them on a bike to make sure they get to school and home safely.
If my wife can't accompany them, she makes arrangements for me or another parent to be the escort. They voluntarily stick closer than they used to. - GEOFF BEARDALL, Jacksonville.
No playing in yard
We don't allow our children in our front yard unless one of us parents are out there with them, much less allow them to walk to school.
They never have and never will walk to school by themselves. The key is to never let them out of your sight. If that's too much, then you needn't be parents.
Every school should have an early drop-off where the kids could be checked in while the parents go off to work.
We hate to live in fear, but we have to watch over our children at all times. - WAYNE MOORE, Orange Park.
Start 'walk pools'
Maybe we need "walk pools" like we have "car pools" with designated parents, known to law enforcement, that walk the routes with the children. At the end of the day, we cannot let these predators keep us from living our lives; we cannot let them teach our children to be afraid of simply walking home from school. - ART PECK, Jacksonville.
Helping each other
I always took my children to school. I would do so especially these days; times have changed drastically. As the parents and neighbors are doing in Orange Park, they are standing along the route to school where these children walk. What a great idea. - SALLY BOGGS, Jacksonville.
Determination is key
I have never let my daughter walk to school and never will. She has never even walked from the bus stop. I work seven days a week, but one way or the other, I always have her taken to school and picked up.
If it means that I have to leave work early, I have always done whatever it took to ensure she is not out there for these demons to stalk. I have never shielded her from the fact that there is evil in this world. She is vigilant and safety conscious. I want her to be a child, but I also want to see her grow up. - REGINA BLAKER, Marietta.
Meeting the bus
I hate that it is not safe for a child to walk home from school (or from the bus) alone, but that is the reality in virtually all parts of Jacksonville. In my neighborhood, families take turns walking all the kids from a bus to their respective houses.
Other parents meet the bus in automobiles. High schoolers sometimes walk from the bus to their homes, but seldom from school. - AL WEIGAND, Jacksonville.
Walking school bus
I like the idea of the "walking school bus," where kids gather in one location and walk to school as a group with adult supervision. At no time, should small children be unaccompanied by a responsible adult, from the moment they leave the front door of the home until the time they walk into the school. I know that parental supervision at all times is hard to do in some cases, but that shouldn't prevent it. - KEITH SCHNIER, Orang Park.
Even in gated community ...
We live in a gated community. Our children are picked up by a school bus one block from our home. They walk together as a group to the bus stop. Even in our gated community, I would not allow our 7-year-old daughter to walk alone to the bus stop. - CAYCE RUMSEY, Ponte Vedra Beach.
Don't overprotect them
My 12-year-old stepdaughter still walks to school. Is it worrisome, yes, but we must approach life from the perspective that there have always been danger and bad people in our world and to overprotect is detrimental to the children, too.
Kids need to be protected, but not overprotected. They need to know about danger and what they can do to protect themselves but, unfortunately, you hardly ever see kids riding bikes and playing ballgames with each other like I did when I was a kid. Truth is, we probably had as many pedophiles in the neighborhood I grew up in as we do today; we just didn't know it. - MICHAEL TARRANCE, Jacksonville.
Okay ... whoever comes here in the morning must shoot holes in my theory. I'm off to bed ... and to sleep.
And now you tell me the foreclosed house has a fireplace (or at least a chimney). Do you need or want or have fireplaces in Florida?
A child reported seeing Somer on the sidewalk in front of a vacant home that was 500 to 600 yards from Somer's elementary school.
There had been a fire at the home a few months ago and it was being remodeled. Workers hired for the remodeling told investigators that Somer had walked inside the fence around the house and spoke to them before walking away. It was the last confirmed sighting of Somer.
Used as a tool for investigators in working certain murders--the October, 2002 DC Sniper case being a prime example--crime mapping, or geographic profiling as reflected in the graphics above,might assist Clay County police in the case of the widely-followed, North Florida first-grader's October '09 killing.
Whoever asked about the stop on the foreclosure.....
the owner is able to call and put a stop to the auction by explaining a change of circumstance such as being in a bankruptcy as the house can not be sold during that process.
..... A lot of times the owners will do that to buy time to get out. Also, not sure of the foreclosure talk, as I got confused reading back, but usually they are not sitting vacant untill they are actually foreclosed upon and owned by the bank as the owner will use that term to live mortgage free untill it actually is forclosed upon.....
....so basically those in foreclosure are not vacant usually but bank owned are vacant.......fwiw
I dont have a link....I know from several people who have gone through this in Vegas, houses are foreclosing like mad here......they get an auction date and then prior to the date as late as the day before, the owner calls the auction and lets them know they are in bankruptcy and BY LAW a bank can not foreclose during a bankruptcy, it usually gets put back on auction calender I believe thirty days after the close of the bankruptcy......Can you provide a link or Florida Real Estate foreclosure law stating a quick phone call stops the trustee sale? I may not be in Florida however I am in real estate and run into problems on a daily basis with foreclosures. It take myself and a team of 2 negotiators -- days if not weeks to speak with the legal team with the banks and mortgage companies. I could certainly use some inside information how the quick call stop it all.