FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #32

[Ms Suzanne]

If Somer was not sexually attacked and it wasn't the crew members at the renovated house.Maybe the little girl or a family member,sibling,friend of one of the little girls she got in a fight with.The little girl she got in a fight with on the way home.Did Somer hit her or the other way around.Who did this little girl go tell this happened too.

 

[Noway]

Yes, I know, sorry about that. I posted somewhere back a few threads just WHAT THE HECK WAS THIS WOMAN DOING? It seemed liek the photographer was having fun watching her do absolutely nothing. What's up with the cardobard? Weird.

lol
I'd seen your post and was thinking that I didn't remember ever seeing video of them searching the Thompson home, so I opened that (and other videos) in new tabs but it was a bit until I got around to watching that one.

It was sort of a loop video I think, although the woman in it didn't do much. I wonder if they initially were going to get another dumpster and toss the debris into the new one as they went through it.

JMO

 

[Noway]

Interesting post (#14) by Winterose (sp?) on the Sarah Haley Foxwell thread. I'd bring it over but don't know how. There is a connection to Orange Park. Thoughts? I'm not good at digging for info:blushing:

To keep discussion here from turning to Sarah, here is the thread for [ame="http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93072"]Sarah[/ame].

 

[txsvicki]

Wow, I've been reading back about the pastor asking ST not to attend the reception and him getting his foot stomped. IMO it is really horrible to leave the dad and his family out of the obituary, have some uncle stomp a disabled man's foot, and bring a preacher into the situation after the horrible murder of their poor defenseless child. I guess it's okay for some guy, a boyfriend who has questionable myspace comments to be there, but not the dad. I'd like to know just what the grudge is. There's nothing I can think of that could he could have done since he has no criminal record that would warrant being treated this way. My ex never gave me a dime of child support, got on drugs, etc., but I never once have badmouthed him and I would never allow any one to ever hurt him in normal circumstances much less if our daughter had been murdered. I'd want to be with him and cry on his shoulder.

 

[NSC]

That was a ton of catch up!! I have SEVERAL thoughts! However, I am on my phone and my wifi is acting up... I will post in the morning all my comments!

Just wanted to mention not to forget about posssible sibling incest! I still think that is very possible! For those that missed it I posted a length hypothesis with links talkig about sibling incest signs dynamic etc...

Goodnight for now!!

 

[NSC]

Oh yeah one more thing! That other case that was posted! I believe her aunt was her guardian and it was her exboyfriend that did it! When I read the article on fox earlier Somers case was at the front of my mind! I am perplexed why pc so adamant about kids not talking to sam? Think about that! Not to mention an example of bringing different men in and out of kids lives- high risk!

 

[3angelsrmine]

To keep discussion here from turning to Sarah, here is the thread for Sarah.

Sorry Noway if I was o/t, just thought winterose may have been on to something...thanks and best to all!

 

[Noway]

Sorry Noway if I was o/t, just thought winterose may have been on to something...thanks and best to all!

No problem. Is there more to the post than a white page listing showing that the victim's bio mom (aunt had custody) once lived in Orange Park? I only looked at [ame="http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4599439&postcount=14"]Post 14[/ame] and then went to the end of the thread. If there is more of a connection to Somer's case, please let us know.

ETA2: I've not seen anything that shows the sexual offender/predator arrested in Sarah's case ever lived in Orange Park. Still reading and researching.

 

[4mer.naybor]

Ccane:

In one of my very first posts I made the attempt to bring some clarification to the number of kids DT has. But I will post it again..

When I met her around fall 2000, when the Thompsons moved in next door (in SC), DT had 3 kids...with 3 different dads. AC, M, and Abby were the children she had at the time. In April 2002 the twins came along. As of the time that I moved away in Aug. 2002, M was still living with DT and ST.

Oh and just so no one gets mixed up AC's dad is a different PC (Perry is not AC's dad, with all these initials it could be misleading).

Hope this helps.

 

[4mer.naybor]

IIRC she left right before he returned from Iraq. I dont think there were any court battles, I think he got her when DT was hospitalized (according to 4mer and ST).

I cant say for sure when this took place, but I think it must have been around this time of high drama.

 

[4mer.naybor]

I wonder with all the searches that have been done on DT why no court records have turned up showing that the father took the child?

How do we know this child is alive and well?

She must be alive and well, I read that she attended the funeral online somewhere. I think her dad is doing a smart and protective thing by keeping her out of this mess. (meaning she hasn't been all over the news or even mentioned much at all)

 

[sorrell skye]

I have been meaning to post this for some time, but somehow kept getting sidetracked with other topics related to the case, or just simply forgot. My apologies.

This is regarding LE checking out RSO's in the vicinity, since there has been so much discussion on these threads about the possibility of it having been a sexual offender who committed this crime, and so much time & effort has been spent on sleuthing RSO's.

It is protocol for LE to immediately interview RSO's in a missing child report.

Here is a link with information on how LE is advised to proceed, with a checklist they are trained to follow in missing/abducted child investigations.

http://www.missingkids.com/en_US/publications/NC88.pdf

I think that because LE announced they were interviewing RSO's in the vicinity, many have assumed it must have meant the crime was committed by a sexual offender.

Here is a snip from the Investigative Checklist For First Responders:

bbm

"Review sex-offender registries to determine if individuals designated as sexual predators live, work, or might otherwise be associated with the area of the child's disappearance."

The fact that the OPPD & the CCSO (and other LE involved in the case) contacted & interviewed RSO's within a 3-mile radius and then extended their search to a 5-mile radius in the initial hours & days of Somer's disappearance should not lead anyone to automatically assume that she was abducted by a sexual offender or predator. They were following established protocol for a missing/abducted child investigation.

The fact that LE ruled out RSO's in the vicinity within the first few days, (according to media reports & statements made by the Sheriff and other representatives of LE) leads me to believe that this crime was not committed by an RSO.

ETA: RSO's were ruled out even before the body had been recovered & Manner & Cause of Death had been determined.

 

[Chickadee]

She must be alive and well, I read that she attended the funeral online somewhere. I think her dad is doing a smart and protective thing by keeping her out of this mess. (meaning she hasn't been all over the news or even mentioned much at all)

BBM

I hadn't read that! Do you think she was kept out of Somer's obituary to protect her?

 

[ChickenPants]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlcWOL01K6U[/ame]

If anyone is interested in watching this - it's about 9 min long - it is based on a true story that was told by a detective who was a consultant on this show. Many similarities regarding child abduction, etc. It is interesting to see how the detectives interact. Remembering that this is based on a true story, just go to YouTube and you can watch the whole episode. Perhaps we can get some more insight into how investigations may be handled - kind of an inside look at it. I hope this is not deemed inappropriate, but if it is, mods please let me know.

When this plays, you can go to the bottom and find part II, and so on. You will probably want to fast forward past the other case on the show. This was a two part episode. The one thing about this episode is it shows how these crimes emotionally affect the detectives, and how careful they have to be in their tactics so as not to lose the perp.

 

[ChickenPants]

You are a detective assigned to this case. You know the COD, and you have learned that Somer was NOT sexually assaulted. What kinds of people are you going to be looking for, or at?

What do you think may have been the motive for this murder?

Who do you think may have been able to carry this off in broad daylight without any disturbance or anyone noticing?

How do you think the perpetrator was able to dispose of the body in broad daylight without any disturbance or anyone noticing?

What techniques are you going to use to follow up on persons that you may be suspecting?

If you do suspect some persons, why have you not arrested them yet?

I also wonder if any undercover techniques have or are being used, such as infiltrating somehow into the work environments or frequent hangouts of any persons who may be suspected.

 

[sorrell skye]

Additional info from above-mentioned website:

http://www.missingkids.com/en_US/publications/NC88.pdf

Investigative Checklist For First Responders:

bbm

Seal/protect scene and area of the child's home (including the child's personal articles such as hairbrush, diary, photographs, and items with the child's fingerprints/footprints/teeth impressions) so evidence is not destroyed during or after the initial search and to help ensure items which could help in the search for and/or to identify the child are preserved. Determine if any of the child's personal items are missing. If possible, photograph/videotape these areas.

Evaluate the contents and appearance of the child's room/residence.



Hmmm...

Wonder if any of this was done before her room was completely changed/rearranged, etc...

 

[ChickenPants]

You are a detective on this case, know the COD and know that Somer was sexually assaulted.

All of the RSO's in the area have been ruled out.
There are SO's who are not registered, you are going to try to find them.

Who else besides a SO could have had a motive to do this?

Who would have the motive and opportunity to do this in broad daylight, and how would they do it and dispose of the body in such a short time frame and unnoticed?

If you suspect someone other than a SO, how are you going to follow up on that person?

If you have a person of interest, why has that person not been arrested yet?

 

[ChickenPants]

Additional info from above-mentioned website:

http://www.missingkids.com/en_US/publications/NC88.pdf

Investigative Checklist For First Responders:

bbm

Seal/protect scene and area of the child's home (including the child's personal articles such as hairbrush, diary, photographs, and items with the child's fingerprints/footprints/teeth impressions) so evidence is not destroyed during or after the initial search and to help ensure items which could help in the search for and/or to identify the child are preserved. Determine if any of the child's personal items are missing. If possible, photograph/videotape these areas.

Evaluate the contents and appearance of the child's room/residence.



Hmmm...

Wonder if any of this was done before her room was completely changed/rearranged, etc...

This is great info. The jump out at me ???? is how did we get 3 different styles of bookbags - from a black one to skulls and pigs and lunchbox? Did the detectives find any of the other 6 or 7 that DT had mentioned and were there Hannah Montana or purple or black among them? I still don't understand how we ended up with the skull one after I read the police report.

The prob did it right away don't you think? Mom didn't change or rearrange the room (or didn't say she did) until that later interview where she took viewers on tour out to the pool, etc.

When I think of going into this little one's room and looking at her toys, etc., it makes me cry.

 

[sorrell skye]

I keep going back to this:

Determine if any of the child's personal items are missing...

Backpacks, book bags, tote bags, white scarf, hat...

 

[sorrell skye]

This is great info. The jump out at me ???? is how did we get 3 different styles of bookbags - from a black one to skulls and pigs and lunchbox? Did the detectives find any of the other 6 or 7 that DT had mentioned and were there Hannah Montana or purple or black among them? I still don't understand how we ended up with the skull one after I read the police report.

The prob did it right away don't you think? Mom didn't change or rearrange the room (or didn't say she did) until that later interview where she took viewers on tour out to the pool, etc.

When I think of going into this little one's room and looking at her toys, etc., it makes me cry.

It was 5 or 6 backpacks, according to the mother in the presser with the Sheriff on the morning of 10/21, in the uncut video posted a few days ago.

Many posters have wondered about the ever-changing description of the backpack/book bag/tote bag.

I have personally never been satisfied with the final description, that doesn't seem to exist, except in an artist's rendition.

ETA: http://www.news4jax.com/video/21360276/index.html

At 21:10 in the video the number of backpacks Somer was said to have owned is stated by DT.