Identified! FL - Tampa, WhtFem UP61522, 11-15, most likely 12-14 years old, Jan'91 - Name withheld

[miss_justice]

A few possible matches I've found..

Patricia Loya - El Paso, TX
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Kimberly Norwood - Hallsville, TX
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Cassandra Ann Lalonde - Westwego, LA
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

 

[Writestuff]

I'm researching missing persons in the Panhandle of Florida, and Andrea Durham has been on my list as a possible victim of a serial killer. He has been known to have relatives in the Tampa and Orlando areas and may be linked to another case around Orlando. Could this be Andrea? She went missing in February 1990. Also, since they have DNA on file for this Jane Doe, can they not trace her ancestry?

 

[MarziPanda]

I'm researching missing persons in the Panhandle of Florida, and Andrea Durham has been on my list as a possible victim of a serial killer. He has been known to have relatives in the Tampa and Orlando areas and may be linked to another case around Orlando. Could this be Andrea? She went missing in February 1990. Also, since they have DNA on file for this Jane Doe, can they not trace her ancestry?
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Genetic genealogy typically requires a different kind of DNA than the kind taken for CODIS. So they usually have to take new samples for that. Which unfortunately isn't cheap.

 

[Mysteries1974]

I'm researching missing persons in the Panhandle of Florida, and Andrea Durham has been on my list as a possible victim of a serial killer. He has been known to have relatives in the Tampa and Orlando areas and may be linked to another case around Orlando. Could this be Andrea? She went missing in February 1990. Also, since they have DNA on file for this Jane Doe, can they not trace her ancestry?
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I would definitely contact Tampa LE about Andrea. She’s always been in my mind for Tampa Girl and I know it could easily be another rule out but I think anything is worth it

 

[SimsGuy67]

I would definitely contact Tampa LE about Andrea. She’s always been in my mind for Tampa Girl and I know it could easily be another rule out but I think anything is worth it

I also remember seeing Andrea multiple times when looking for matches. I didn't pay too much attention as at the time I was looking for possibilities without DNA available.

If she isn't ruled-out by default, it's a good possibility, even if the distance is a bit far.

 

[Bit of hope]

I would definitely contact Tampa LE about Andrea. She’s always been in my mind for Tampa Girl and I know it could easily be another rule out but I think anything is worth it

I agree, I already came up with her in 2000, but I never followed up due to the vague circumstances around Tampa girl.

 

[Writestuff]

I would definitely contact Tampa LE about Andrea. She’s always been in my mind for Tampa Girl and I know it could easily be another rule out but I think anything is worth it

How would I go about doing that? Do you have a number? I will call today.

 

[SimsGuy67]

How would I go about doing that? Do you have a number? I will call today.

We have an email, though if you prefer talking over the phone, I'll add the number on NamUs too.

Email:
MEOperations@hcflgov.net

Phone:
(813) 914-4500

 

[SimsGuy67]

I guess I can understand why Andrea wasn't on the list as NamUs hasn't updated the date yet but I have no clue about the other girls... Why have a rule-out list if it's only partial!?

 

[Writestuff]

We have an email, though if you prefer talking over the phone, I'll add the number on NamUs too.

Email:
MEOperations@hcflgov.net

Phone:
(813) 914-4500

Got it. Thank you. I called, and ME Investigator Blake Patel was out of the office until next week. They gave me his information, and I sent him an email. It's a long shot, but this person does have ties in the Tampa area, so it's worth a look.

 

[SimsGuy67]

Got it. Thank you. I called, and ME Investigator Blake Patel was out of the office until next week. They gave me his information, and I sent him an email. It's a long shot, but this person does have ties in the Tampa area, so it's worth a look.

It does make sense. Police seem to believe Andrea ran away initially, but met foul play on the way. It'd make sense that she'd go to her relatives in Tampa/Orlando and may have been murdered, possibly while hitchhiking?

 

[Writestuff]

It does make sense. Police seem to believe Andrea ran away initially, but met foul play on the way. It'd make sense that she'd go to her relatives in Tampa/Orlando and may have been murdered, possibly while hitchhiking?

I'm working on an angle that connects her to Deborah Poe's disappearance. The person who may have been responsible for both of their disappearances had a transportation business at the time and was known to go to the Tampa/Orlando area often. He did confess to Deborah Poe's murder but later recanted. He was also known to be friends with Andrea and her family (his son was friends with Andrea). Andrea disappeared Feb 1, 1990 and Deborah disappeared on Feb 4, 1990. The only thing that was bugging me was how Andrea made it to Tampa from the FWB area. I've been trying to connect the dots, and now it's making sense... IF it's her.

 

[SimsGuy67]

I'm working on an angle that connects her to Deborah Poe's disappearance. The person who may have been responsible for both of their disappearances had a transportation business at the time and was known to go to the Tampa/Orlando area often. He did confess to Deborah Poe's murder but later recanted. He was also known to be friends with Andrea and her family (his son was friends with Andrea). Andrea disappeared Feb 1, 1990 and Deborah disappeared on Feb 4, 1990. The only thing that was bugging me was how Andrea made it to Tampa from the FWB area. I've been trying to connect the dots, and now it's making sense... IF it's her.

Even if Tampa Girl isn't Andrea, then she may still be connected to Deborah's disappearance. It's telling when multiple disappearances have one common individual. Do you have any more info on the mystery person?

I wonder if he knew any other people who vanished or wound up murdered...

 

[Mysteries1974]

Even if Tampa Girl isn't Andrea, then she may still be connected to Deborah's disappearance. It's telling when multiple disappearances have one common individual. Do you have any more info on the mystery person?

I wonder if he knew any other people who vanished or wound up murdered...

Serial killers Mark Riebe and William Alex Wells III. They knew Andrea and she had been to their home to hang out the stepchildren of one of the men prior to her disappearance. They were convicted of killing Donna Callahan, a pregnant woman who vanished from Gulf Breeze, Florida in 1989. Her skeletal remains were found on Well’s parents property in 1996 after he confessed to helping abduct and murder her with Riebe. They are suspects in Deborah Poe’s unsolved abduction as well. Much like Donna Callahan, Poe was taken from her job at a convenience store but she’s never been found.

 

[SimsGuy67]

Serial killers Mark Riebe and William Alex Wells III. They knew Andrea and she had been to their home to hang out the stepchildren of one of the men prior to her disappearance. They were convicted of killing Donna Callahan, a pregnant woman who vanished from Gulf Breeze, Florida in 1989. Her skeletal remains were found on Well’s parents property in 1996 after he confessed to helping abduct and murder her with Riebe. They are suspects in Deborah Poe’s unsolved abduction as well. Much like Donna Callahan, Poe was taken from her job at a convenience store but she’s never been found.

I had a feeling a serial killer(s) would be involved here...

 

[Writestuff]

I thought I had updated - maybe not. But I heard back from the ME's office, and they have excluded Andrea as "Tampa Girl".

 

[SimsGuy67]

I thought I had updated - maybe not. But I heard back from the ME's office, and they have excluded Andrea as "Tampa Girl".

NEW EXCLUSIONS LIST

1.) Debora Lowe - Missing Since 02/29/1972 from Pompano Beach, FL
2.) Judy Davis - Missing Since 05/13/1972 from Jacksonville, Fl
3.) Gail Joiner - Missing Since 09/22/1972 from Thonotosassa, FL
4.) Martha Lambert - Missing Since 11/27/1985 from St. Augustine, Fl
5.) Annette Sagers - Missing Since 10/04/1988 from Moncks Corner, SC
6.) Jennifer Perry - Missing Since 07/30/1993 from Marathon, FL
7.) Tinze Huels - Missing Since 10/27/1984 from Tampa, FL
8.) Andrea Parsons - Missing Since 07/11/1993 from Port Salerno, FL
9.) Kimberly Doss - Missing Since 05/29/1979 from Jacksonville, FL
10.) Shannon Potter - Missing Since 03/03/1984 from Baltimore, MD
11.) Averie Evans - Missing Since 11/05/1990 from Natchitoches, LA
12.) Andrea Durham - Missing Since 02/1/1990 from Fort Walton Beach, FL

 

[SimsGuy67]

Now that it's been a few months and more girls have been excluded and/or suggested, I made a new list of girls suggested to possibly be TG that haven't been ruled out.

1.) Lurline Bergeron - Missing Since 1991 - West Palm Beach, FL - SUGGESTED JUNE 9, 2020 by aThousandYearsWide
2.) Tavia Bailey - Missing Since 1985 - Pensacola, FL - SUGGESTED JULY 27, 2020 by Bit of hope
3.) Michaela Garecht - Missing Since 1988 - Hayward, CA - SUGGESTED AUGUST 13, 2020 by Earth
4.) Wendy Huggy - Missing Since 1982 - Clearwater, FL - SUGGESTED DECEMBER 26, 2020 by Bit of hope
5.) Tammy Akers + Angela Rader - Missing Since 1977 - Roanoke, VA - SUGGESTED DECEMBER 29, 2020 by AnnieOakley
6.) Angela Ramsey - Missing Since 1977 - Deland, FL - SUGGESTED DECEMBER 29, 2020 by AnnieOakley
7.) Sherry Young - Missing Since 1984 - Orlando, FL - SUGGESTED February 2, 2021 by Bit of hope
10.) Alexis Duggan - Missing Since 1970 - Tampa, FL - SUGGESTED July 19, 2021 by Romulus
11.) Susan Basile - Missing Since 1975 - Port Orange, FL - SUGGESTED November 3, 2021 by John/Jane Doe
12.) Dorothy Scofield - Missing Since 1976 - Ocala, FL - SUGGESTED March 24, 2022 by Mrs. Badcrumble
13.) Lisa Sexton - Missing Since 1981 - Elyria, OH - SUGGESTED October 3, 2022 by Mysteries1974
14.) Diana Martinez - Missing Since 1987 - North Bergen, NJ - SUGGESTED June 28, 2023 by jennytrevor
15.) Mellisa Burgess - Missing Since 1988 - St. Petersburg, FL - SUGGESTED June 28, 2023 by Romulus
16.) Tabbetha Worford - Missing Since 1990 - Pensacola, FL - SUGGESTED June 29, 2023 by Romulus
17.) Jackie Boyer - Missing Since 1980 - Windsor, CA - SUGGESTED June 29, 2023 by John/Jane Doe
18.) Vickie Davis - Missing Since 1987 - Chipley, FL - SUGGESTED June 29, 2023 by Romulus
19.) Marjorie Luna - Missing Since 1984 - Greenacres, FL - SUGGESTED June 29, 2023 by Romulus
20.) Brenda Green - Missing Since 1988 - Brookwood, AL - SUGGESTED June 30, 2023 by Romulus
21.) Carlene Tengelsen - Missing Since 1972 - Macon, GA - SUGGESTED July 1, 2023 by SimsGuy67
22.) Melanie Melanson - Missing Since 1989 - Woburn, MA - SUGGESTED July 1, 2023 by SimsGuy67
23.) Dorothy Clitheroe - Missing Since 1973 - Phoenix, AZ - SUGGESTED July 2, 2023 by phantomstrider
24.) Trinity Robinson - Missing Since 1993 - Homestead, FL - SUGGESTED July 2, 2023 by SimsGuy67
25.) Michelle Mulcahy - Missing Since 1979 - Fort Lauderdale, FL - SUGGESTED July 2, 2023 by SimsGuy67
26.) Emma Vaughn - Missing Since 1982 - Orlando, FL - SUGGESTED July 3, 2023 by SimsGuy67
27.) Jeanna North - Missing Since 1993 - Fargo, ND - SUGGESTED July 11, 2023 by Romulus
28.) Wilda Benoit - Missing Since 1992 - Creole, LA - SUGGESTED July 13, 2023 by megs1477
29.) Patricia Loya - Missing Since 1993 - El Paso, TX - SUGGESTED August 15, 2023 by miss_justice
30.) Kimberly Norwood - Missing Since 1989 - Hallsville, TX - SUGGESTED August 15, 2023 by miss_justice
31.) Cassandra Lalonde - Missing Since 1988 - Buras, LA - SUGGESTED August 15, 2023 by miss_justice
32.) Susan Earls - Missing Since 1977 - Orlando, FL - SUGGESTED September 14, 2023 by SimsGuy67

That's the whole list. Susan Earls is actually a possibility I thought of today while looking at other cases. She's older than most of the girls on the list, though some of them are as old as twenty.

Susan Elaine Earls – The Charley Project

 

[John/Jane Doe]

@SimsGuy67 could you add Jennifer Sophia Marteliz to the list of suggestions for Hillsborough County Jane Doe? she disappeared in Tampa and if she had been alive for a few years she would have been about Jane Doe's age.

267DFFL - Jennifer Sophia Marteliz

 

[SimsGuy67]

@SimsGuy67 could you add Jennifer Sophia Marteliz to the list of suggestions for Hillsborough County Jane Doe? she disappeared in Tampa and if she had been alive for a few years she would have been about Jane Doe's age.

267DFFL - Jennifer Sophia Marteliz

I normally add the list once per page so the length of each page isn't too long, but she will be on the next suggestion list and if this thread remains active, will likely be made very soon. Here's a comparison between Jennifer and TG:

267DFFL - Jennifer Sophia Marteliz

I do see resemblance. The only problem giving me hold is that Jennifer is biracial. It's very possible the suspect may have kept her alive for a while after she disappeared, though I'm not sure how probable. I've seen stranger things happen though.

While this thread is still on page fifteen, do you think I should do this suggestion list system with other Jane/John Doe's?