Identified! FL - Tampa, WhtFem UP61522, 11-15, most likely 12-14 years old, Jan'91 - Name withheld

[Mysteries1974]

I really hope they give this case to Othram.

They know about her I believe so I’m hoping sooner than later, we will see a post from them about Tampa Girl

 

[John/Jane Doe]

I believe you are right in that Tampa Girl died sometime in the 1970s- 1980s. I believe if she’s not a missing girl listed in the National Missing Persons Registry, she’s a still-missing runaway from the 70s-80s who got purged from the missing persons system once she turned 18 which unfortunately happened a lot back in those days. Either that or her file was lost/destroyed.

If TG was indeed found at some point between 1991-1995, this would make sense because if she disappeared/died in the 70s/80s she probably would’ve been 18 by the time the remains were found and her file might’ve been gone. Especially if she’s a runaway.

I full heartedly believe this case might end with us finding out about a young girl who’s case was lost/neglected years ago and then they’ll have an unsolved homicide on their hands with little to no information.

This is why I’m hoping every and all suggestions on here get checked out. We’ve been able to eliminate some very promising possibilities. Andrea Durham, Martha Lambert, Tinze Huels, Averie Evans, etc.

We need to rule out that Tampa Girl is the lost remains of a missing girl that we still know is missing. Essentially the ones who are listed as such in the list @SimsGuy67 created.

Of the possible matches that appear on @SimsGuy67's suggestion list, I would like Jennifer Marteliz, Kimberly Norwood and Marjorie Luna to be submitted.

 

[Mysteries1974]

Of the possible matches that appear on @SimsGuy67's suggestion list, I would like Jennifer Marteliz, Kimberly Norwood and Marjorie Luna to be submitted.

I agree. All these possibilities need to be sent to the ME. They usually respond

 

[SimsGuy67]

I agree. All these possibilities need to be sent to the ME. They usually respond

There are some that I don't think should be considered. Mainly Michaela Garecht. It seems like to much of a stretch to me, considering the new developments.

 

[SimsGuy67]

Now that the thread has another page, here's another list, featuring the MP's I suggested. This list has also been updated, with the MP's who have been submitted having an "(S)" at the end. It should make it easier to go down the list, submitting those who haven't been submitted yet.

1.) Lurline Bergeron - Missing Since 1991 - West Palm Beach, FL - SUGGESTED JUNE 9, 2020 by aThousandYearsWide
2.) Tavia Bailey - Missing Since 1985 - Pensacola, FL - SUGGESTED JULY 27, 2020 by Bit of hope
3.) Michaela Garecht - Missing Since 1988 - Hayward, CA - SUGGESTED AUGUST 13, 2020 by Earth
4.) Wendy Huggy - Missing Since 1982 - Clearwater, FL - SUGGESTED DECEMBER 26, 2020 by Bit of hope
5.) Tammy Akers + Angela Rader - Missing Since 1977 - Roanoke, VA - SUGGESTED DECEMBER 29, 2020 by AnnieOakley
6.) Angela Ramsey - Missing Since 1977 - Deland, FL - SUGGESTED DECEMBER 29, 2020 by AnnieOakley
7.) Sherry Young - Missing Since 1984 - Orlando, FL - SUGGESTED February 2, 2021 by Bit of hope
10.) Alexis Duggan - Missing Since 1970 - Tampa, FL - SUGGESTED July 19, 2021 by Romulus
11.) Susan Basile - Missing Since 1975 - Port Orange, FL - SUGGESTED November 3, 2021 by John/Jane Doe
12.) Dorothy Scofield - Missing Since 1976 - Ocala, FL - SUGGESTED March 24, 2022 by Mrs. Badcrumble
13.) Lisa Sexton - Missing Since 1981 - Elyria, OH - SUGGESTED October 3, 2022 by Mysteries1974 (S)
14.) Diana Martinez - Missing Since 1987 - North Bergen, NJ - SUGGESTED June 28, 2023 by jennytrevor
15.) Mellisa Burgess - Missing Since 1988 - St. Petersburg, FL - SUGGESTED June 28, 2023 by Romulus
16.) Tabbetha Worford - Missing Since 1990 - Pensacola, FL - SUGGESTED June 29, 2023 by Romulus
17.) Jackie Boyer - Missing Since 1980 - Windsor, CA - SUGGESTED June 29, 2023 by John/Jane Doe (S)
18.) Vickie Davis - Missing Since 1987 - Chipley, FL - SUGGESTED June 29, 2023 by Romulus
19.) Marjorie Luna - Missing Since 1984 - Greenacres, FL - SUGGESTED June 29, 2023 by Romulus
20.) Brenda Green - Missing Since 1988 - Brookwood, AL - SUGGESTED June 30, 2023 by Romulus
21.) Carlene Tengelsen - Missing Since 1972 - Macon, GA - SUGGESTED July 1, 2023 by SimsGuy67
22.) Melanie Melanson - Missing Since 1989 - Woburn, MA - SUGGESTED July 1, 2023 by SimsGuy67
23.) Dorothy Clitheroe - Missing Since 1973 - Phoenix, AZ - SUGGESTED July 2, 2023 by phantomstrider
24.) Trinity Robinson - Missing Since 1993 - Homestead, FL - SUGGESTED July 2, 2023 by SimsGuy67
25.) Michelle Mulcahy - Missing Since 1979 - Fort Lauderdale, FL - SUGGESTED July 2, 2023 by SimsGuy67
26.) Emma Vaughn - Missing Since 1982 - Orlando, FL - SUGGESTED July 3, 2023 by SimsGuy67
27.) Jeanna North - Missing Since 1993 - Fargo, ND - SUGGESTED July 11, 2023 by Romulus
28.) Wilda Benoit - Missing Since 1992 - Creole, LA - SUGGESTED July 13, 2023 by megs1477
29.) Patricia Loya - Missing Since 1993 - El Paso, TX - SUGGESTED August 15, 2023 by miss_justice
30.) Kimberly Norwood - Missing Since 1989 - Hallsville, TX - SUGGESTED August 15, 2023 by miss_justice
31.) Cassandra Lalonde - Missing Since 1988 - Buras, LA - SUGGESTED August 15, 2023 by miss_justice
32.) Susan Earls - Missing Since 1977 - Orlando, FL - SUGGESTED September 14, 2023 by SimsGuy67
33.) Jennifer Marteliz - Missing Since 1982 - Tampa, FL - SUGGESTED September 14, 2023 by John/Jane Doe
34.) Nerissa Franklin - Missing Since 1989 - Gautier, MS - SUGGESTED September 16, 2023 by SimsGuy67
35.) Catrina Jackson - Missing Since 1986 - Sylvania, GA - SUGGESTED September 16, 2023 by SimsGuy67
36.) Mary Burnett - Missing Since 1984 - Rockford, AL - SUGGESTED September 16, 2023 by SimsGuy67

While I did submit Emma Vaughn, I never got a response back, so I'll leave her as unsubmitted, for now.

Did anyone submit Wendy Huggy? She's missing from Florida and looks like TG IMO. She also disappeared very close to Tampa. Only about 22 miles.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

 

[Mysteries1974]

There are some that I don't think should be considered. Mainly Michaela Garecht. It seems like to much of a stretch to me, considering the new developments.

I can assure you, this is not Michaela. She’s still in California somewhere. Her killer was arrested on drug possession charges about two days after he abducted her and she wasn’t with him because he killed her. There was no time for her to be transported across the country to Florida.

 

[Mysteries1974]

I have just received word that Lisa Sexton has been excluded as a match to Tampa Girl so we can add her to the rule out list. I just received an email from the ME:

Hello,

I have compared Ms. Lisa and our unidentified remains through NamUs. Lisa has family DNA profiles searching through CODIS as well as our unidentified remains without a match. They can both be excluded from one another.

Thank you for reaching out and I hope you have a great day,

 

[SimsGuy67]

I have just received word that Lisa Sexton has been excluded as a match to Tampa Girl so we can add her to the rule out list. I just received an email from the ME:

Hello,

I have compared Ms. Lisa and our unidentified remains through NamUs. Lisa has family DNA profiles searching through CODIS as well as our unidentified remains without a match. They can both be excluded from one another.

Thank you for reaching out and I hope you have a great day,

So happy that this has been ruled out!

NEW EXCLUSIONS LIST

1.) Debora Lowe - Missing Since 02/29/1972 from Pompano Beach, FL
2.) Judy Davis - Missing Since 05/13/1972 from Jacksonville, Fl
3.) Gail Joiner - Missing Since 09/22/1972 from Thonotosassa, FL
4.) Martha Lambert - Missing Since 11/27/1985 from St. Augustine, Fl
5.) Annette Sagers - Missing Since 10/04/1988 from Moncks Corner, SC
6.) Jennifer Perry - Missing Since 07/30/1993 from Marathon, FL
7.) Tinze Huels - Missing Since 10/27/1984 from Tampa, FL
8.) Andrea Parsons - Missing Since 07/11/1993 from Port Salerno, FL
9.) Kimberly Doss - Missing Since 05/29/1979 from Jacksonville, FL
10.) Shannon Potter - Missing Since 03/03/1984 from Baltimore, MD
11.) Averie Evans - Missing Since 11/05/1990 from Natchitoches, LA
12.) Andrea Durham - Missing Since 02/01/1990 from Fort Walton Beach, FL
13.) Lisa Sexton - Missing Since 05/01/1981 from Elyria, OH

 

[SimsGuy67]

Wendy Huggy can also be ruled out I believe. Doe Network confirms she has DNA is CODIS.

208DFFL - Wendy Lynn Huggy

 

[SimsGuy67]

I looked through the suggestion list and filtered out all of the girls who are confirmed to have DNA in CODIS, while removing Lisa Sexton. Also removing Michaela for circumstantial reasons. Note this is not the main list.

1.) Lurline Bergeron - Missing Since 1991 - West Palm Beach, FL - SUGGESTED JUNE 9, 2020 by aThousandYearsWide
2.) Tammy Akers + Angela Rader - Missing Since 1977 - Roanoke, VA - SUGGESTED DECEMBER 29, 2020 by AnnieOakley
3.) Sherry Young - Missing Since 1984 - Orlando, FL - SUGGESTED February 2, 2021 by Bit of hope
4.) Alexis Duggan - Missing Since 1970 - Tampa, FL - SUGGESTED July 19, 2021 by Romulus
5.) Susan Basile - Missing Since 1975 - Port Orange, FL - SUGGESTED November 3, 2021 by John/Jane Doe
6.) Dorothy Scofield - Missing Since 1976 - Ocala, FL - SUGGESTED March 24, 2022 by Mrs. Badcrumble
7.) Diana Martinez - Missing Since 1987 - North Bergen, NJ - SUGGESTED June 28, 2023 by jennytrevor
8.) Mellisa Burgess - Missing Since 1988 - St. Petersburg, FL - SUGGESTED June 28, 2023 by Romulus
9.) Tabbetha Worford - Missing Since 1990 - Pensacola, FL - SUGGESTED June 29, 2023 by Romulus
10.) Jackie Boyer - Missing Since 1980 - Windsor, CA - SUGGESTED June 29, 2023 by John/Jane Doe (S)
11.) Vickie Davis - Missing Since 1987 - Chipley, FL - SUGGESTED June 29, 2023 by Romulus
12.) Marjorie Luna - Missing Since 1984 - Greenacres, FL - SUGGESTED June 29, 2023 by Romulus
13.) Brenda Green - Missing Since 1988 - Brookwood, AL - SUGGESTED June 30, 2023 by Romulus
14.) Carlene Tengelsen - Missing Since 1972 - Macon, GA - SUGGESTED July 1, 2023 by SimsGuy67
15.) Melanie Melanson - Missing Since 1989 - Woburn, MA - SUGGESTED July 1, 2023 by SimsGuy67
16.) Dorothy Clitheroe - Missing Since 1973 - Phoenix, AZ - SUGGESTED July 2, 2023 by phantomstrider
17.) Trinity Robinson - Missing Since 1993 - Homestead, FL - SUGGESTED July 2, 2023 by SimsGuy67
18.) Michelle Mulcahy - Missing Since 1979 - Fort Lauderdale, FL - SUGGESTED July 2, 2023 by SimsGuy67
19.) Emma Vaughn - Missing Since 1982 - Orlando, FL - SUGGESTED July 3, 2023 by SimsGuy67
20.) Jeanna North - Missing Since 1993 - Fargo, ND - SUGGESTED July 11, 2023 by Romulus
21.) Wilda Benoit - Missing Since 1992 - Creole, LA - SUGGESTED July 13, 2023 by megs1477
22.) Patricia Loya - Missing Since 1993 - El Paso, TX - SUGGESTED August 15, 2023 by miss_justice
23.) Kimberly Norwood - Missing Since 1989 - Hallsville, TX - SUGGESTED August 15, 2023 by miss_justice
24.) Cassandra Lalonde - Missing Since 1988 - Buras, LA - SUGGESTED August 15, 2023 by miss_justice
25.) Susan Earls - Missing Since 1977 - Orlando, FL - SUGGESTED September 14, 2023 by SimsGuy67
26.) Jennifer Marteliz - Missing Since 1982 - Tampa, FL - SUGGESTED September 14, 2023 by John/Jane Doe
27.) Nerissa Franklin - Missing Since 1989 - Gautier, MS - SUGGESTED September 16, 2023 by SimsGuy67
28.) Catrina Jackson - Missing Since 1986 - Sylvania, GA - SUGGESTED September 16, 2023 by SimsGuy67
29.) Mary Burnett - Missing Since 1984 - Rockford, AL - SUGGESTED September 16, 2023 by SimsGuy67

All the girls that were removed have DNA in their Doe Networks listed as "In CODIS". DNA is available in most cases, but there's no mention of it being in CODIS.

 

[Mina280909]

Is it possible that Elsa Janell Wind is Tampa girl? She was last seen on September 26, 1992 in North San Juan, CA. She was 13 years old.

 

[SimsGuy67]

Is it possible that Elsa Janell Wind is Tampa girl? She was last seen on September 26, 1992 in North San Juan, CA. She was 13 years old.

If she's believed to have ran away, it's always possible.

 

[Writestuff]

Would it make sense to start with the ones that went missing in the Florida area and then fan out from there? I would be happy to contact Investigator Patel again and run through the list with him.

 

[SimsGuy67]

Would it make sense to start with the ones that went missing in the Florida area and then fan out from there? I would be happy to contact Investigator Patel again and run through the list with him.

I feel like it's best to submit girls from Florida first, then girls with ties to Florida, then girls from adjacent states, then girls with no connection to Florida.

 

[Mysteries1974]

Would it make sense to start with the ones that went missing in the Florida area and then fan out from there? I would be happy to contact Investigator Patel again and run through the list with him.

I feel like it's best to submit girls from Florida first, then girls with ties to Florida, then girls from adjacent states, then girls with no connection to Florida.

Yes, I agree all girls from Florida should be ruled out first. I especially felt this after she didn’t match Martha because there are just so many missing girls in Florida that could be this young girl who vanished between the 1970s-1990s.

Many names including Marjorie Luna, Andrea Durham, Andrea Parsons, and more came up in my head but most have been ruled out thankfully. I just wish they’d update the NamUs list. They added Martha after I suggested her so what makes these other cases any different?

 

[Bit of hope]

Now that the thread has another page, here's another list, featuring the MP's I suggested. This list has also been updated, with the MP's who have been submitted having an "(S)" at the end. It should make it easier to go down the list, submitting those who haven't been submitted yet.

1.) Lurline Bergeron - Missing Since 1991 - West Palm Beach, FL - SUGGESTED JUNE 9, 2020 by aThousandYearsWide
2.) Tavia Bailey - Missing Since 1985 - Pensacola, FL - SUGGESTED JULY 27, 2020 by Bit of hope
3.) Michaela Garecht - Missing Since 1988 - Hayward, CA - SUGGESTED AUGUST 13, 2020 by Earth
4.) Wendy Huggy - Missing Since 1982 - Clearwater, FL - SUGGESTED DECEMBER 26, 2020 by Bit of hope
5.) Tammy Akers + Angela Rader - Missing Since 1977 - Roanoke, VA - SUGGESTED DECEMBER 29, 2020 by AnnieOakley
6.) Angela Ramsey - Missing Since 1977 - Deland, FL - SUGGESTED DECEMBER 29, 2020 by AnnieOakley
7.) Sherry Young - Missing Since 1984 - Orlando, FL - SUGGESTED February 2, 2021 by Bit of hope
10.) Alexis Duggan - Missing Since 1970 - Tampa, FL - SUGGESTED July 19, 2021 by Romulus
11.) Susan Basile - Missing Since 1975 - Port Orange, FL - SUGGESTED November 3, 2021 by John/Jane Doe
12.) Dorothy Scofield - Missing Since 1976 - Ocala, FL - SUGGESTED March 24, 2022 by Mrs. Badcrumble
13.) Lisa Sexton - Missing Since 1981 - Elyria, OH - SUGGESTED October 3, 2022 by Mysteries1974 (S)
14.) Diana Martinez - Missing Since 1987 - North Bergen, NJ - SUGGESTED June 28, 2023 by jennytrevor
15.) Mellisa Burgess - Missing Since 1988 - St. Petersburg, FL - SUGGESTED June 28, 2023 by Romulus
16.) Tabbetha Worford - Missing Since 1990 - Pensacola, FL - SUGGESTED June 29, 2023 by Romulus
17.) Jackie Boyer - Missing Since 1980 - Windsor, CA - SUGGESTED June 29, 2023 by John/Jane Doe (S)
18.) Vickie Davis - Missing Since 1987 - Chipley, FL - SUGGESTED June 29, 2023 by Romulus
19.) Marjorie Luna - Missing Since 1984 - Greenacres, FL - SUGGESTED June 29, 2023 by Romulus
20.) Brenda Green - Missing Since 1988 - Brookwood, AL - SUGGESTED June 30, 2023 by Romulus
21.) Carlene Tengelsen - Missing Since 1972 - Macon, GA - SUGGESTED July 1, 2023 by SimsGuy67
22.) Melanie Melanson - Missing Since 1989 - Woburn, MA - SUGGESTED July 1, 2023 by SimsGuy67
23.) Dorothy Clitheroe - Missing Since 1973 - Phoenix, AZ - SUGGESTED July 2, 2023 by phantomstrider
24.) Trinity Robinson - Missing Since 1993 - Homestead, FL - SUGGESTED July 2, 2023 by SimsGuy67
25.) Michelle Mulcahy - Missing Since 1979 - Fort Lauderdale, FL - SUGGESTED July 2, 2023 by SimsGuy67
26.) Emma Vaughn - Missing Since 1982 - Orlando, FL - SUGGESTED July 3, 2023 by SimsGuy67
27.) Jeanna North - Missing Since 1993 - Fargo, ND - SUGGESTED July 11, 2023 by Romulus
28.) Wilda Benoit - Missing Since 1992 - Creole, LA - SUGGESTED July 13, 2023 by megs1477
29.) Patricia Loya - Missing Since 1993 - El Paso, TX - SUGGESTED August 15, 2023 by miss_justice
30.) Kimberly Norwood - Missing Since 1989 - Hallsville, TX - SUGGESTED August 15, 2023 by miss_justice
31.) Cassandra Lalonde - Missing Since 1988 - Buras, LA - SUGGESTED August 15, 2023 by miss_justice
32.) Susan Earls - Missing Since 1977 - Orlando, FL - SUGGESTED September 14, 2023 by SimsGuy67
33.) Jennifer Marteliz - Missing Since 1982 - Tampa, FL - SUGGESTED September 14, 2023 by John/Jane Doe
34.) Nerissa Franklin - Missing Since 1989 - Gautier, MS - SUGGESTED September 16, 2023 by SimsGuy67
35.) Catrina Jackson - Missing Since 1986 - Sylvania, GA - SUGGESTED September 16, 2023 by SimsGuy67
36.) Mary Burnett - Missing Since 1984 - Rockford, AL - SUGGESTED September 16, 2023 by SimsGuy67

While I did submit Emma Vaughn, I never got a response back, so I'll leave her as unsubmitted, for now.

Did anyone submit Wendy Huggy? She's missing from Florida and looks like TG IMO. She also disappeared very close to Tampa. Only about 22 miles.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

I came up with Wendy a long time ago

Could this Jane Doe be the remains of Wendy Huggy? She was a little older, 16, when she went missing in 1982 from Clearwater, FL. (29 minutes drive to Tampa) Wendy Lynn Huggy – The Charley Project

They do look simular. Someone else had mentioned this doe a few weeks ago and I asked the detective to look into this but never heard back

So sad you didn't hear anything back @Sleuthster. Is there anything else we can do now?
(it was me, I posted the suggestion in Wendy's thread)

He may be busy. I'll touch base with him again and see if he is looking into this. I know he's usually really good about getting back to me.

As @Sleuthster is a verified member in Wendy Huggy's case, who already has the contacts, my idea about submitting her was to leave it with her. Maybe she already submitted her?

Is now suggested because she has DNA she is ruled out by default?

ETA

 

[SimsGuy67]

I came up with Wendy a long time ago







As @Sleuthster is a verified member in Wendy Huggy's case, who already has the contacts, my idea about submitting her was to leave it with her. Maybe she already submitted her?

Is now suggested because she has DNA she is ruled out by default?

ETA

I believe Wendy is a default rule-out. Her Doe Network shows she has DNA in CODIS, while we know for a fact TG has DNA in CODIS. However, I've seen Doe Network be mistaken in the past, so I'd submit it, just to make sure.

I didn't know about Wendy's DNA status when making the post.

 

[SimsGuy67]

Did anyone submit Lurline? She's the first girl to be suggested, so I think it's time we rule her out/in. While DNA is available, we have no evidence of it being in CODIS, so it makes sense to submit it to be sure.

 

[Sweetluv]

I check in on Lurlines thread, alot.
She has a surgical scar on the left side of her head, above ear. I would think one could tell if there was surgery done to the skull....but it doesn't hurt to submit!
Suggestion...Tina Faye Kemp of Felton, Delaware?

 

[John/Jane Doe]

I check in on Lurlines thread, alot.
She has a surgical scar on the left side of her head, above ear. I would think one could tell if there was surgery done to the skull....but it doesn't hurt to submit!
Suggestion...Tina Faye Kemp of Felton, Delaware?

2966DFDE - Tina Faye Kemp