Have they compared her to Michaela Garecht? I'm not certain this may be her, but I wanted to rule her out anyway.
Thank you for contacting Roselvr, she always knows how to reach me. I appreciate you thinking of Deb, I have submitted her to LE on Debs case, so we will see how it goes. I'm praying so hard for this to be her......
Debora Sue Lowe - submitted - Debora Sue Lowe – The Charley Project
www.doenetwork.org/cases/1673dffl.html
MP3980 Debora Sue Lowe has been ruled out being Tampa Girl.Gail Joyner is still the only ruleout.
Could this Jane Doe be the remains of Wendy Huggy? She was a little older, 16, when she went missing in 1982 from Clearwater, FL. (29 minutes drive to Tampa) Wendy Lynn Huggy – The Charley Project
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@SleuthsterCould this Jane Doe be the remains of Wendy Huggy? She was a little older, 16, when she went missing in 1982 from Clearwater, FL. (29 minutes drive to Tampa) Wendy Lynn Huggy – The Charley Project
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They do look simular. Someone else had mentioned this doe a few weeks ago and I asked the detective to look into this but never heard back@Sleuthster
What do you think of this possible match to Wendy? I can see the nose is similar and the big round eyes.
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They do look simular. Someone else had mentioned this doe a few weeks ago and I asked the detective to look into this but never heard back
He may be busy. I'll touch base with him again and see if he is looking into this. I know he's usually really good about getting back to me.So sad you didn't hear anything back @Sleuthster. Is there anything else we can do now?
(it was me, I posted the suggestion in Wendy's thread)
FL - Wendy Huggy, 16, Clearwater, 7 April 1982
I couldn't find an existing thread for this little girl. She is estimated being about 12-14 years old!
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
Female
White / Caucasian
Date Body Found: January 1, 1994
Location Found: Tampa, Florida
Estimated Age Range: 11-15 Years
Case Information
Case Numbers
NCMEC Number: --
ME/C Case Number: USF19-018
Demographics
Sex: Female
Race / Ethnicity: White / Caucasian
Possible First Name: --
Possible Middle Name: --
Possible Last Name: --
Possible Nickname: --
Estimated Age Group: Adolescent
Estimated Age Range (Years): 11-15
Estimated Year of Death: --
Estimated PMI: --
Height: Cannot Estimate
Weight: Cannot Estimate
Circumstances
Type: Unidentified Deceased
Date Body Found: January 1, 1994
NamUs Case Created: November 12, 2019
ME/C QA Reviewed: --
Location Found Map
Location: Tampa, Florida 33620
County: Hillsborough County
GPS Coordinates (Not Mapped): --
Found On Tribal Land: No
Circumstances of Recovery:
Juvenile female that is likely 12-14 years old.
Details of Recovery
Inventory of Remains:
Torso not recovered
One or more limbs not recovered
One or both hands not recovered
Condition of Remains:
Not recognizable - Partial skeletal parts only
Physical Description
Hair Color: Unknown
Head Hair Description: --
Body Hair Description: --
Facial Hair Description: --
Left Eye Color: Unknown
Right Eye Color: Unknown
Eye Description: --
Distinctive Physical Features
No Information Entered
Clothing and Accessories
No Information Entered
I couldn't find an existing thread for this little girl. She is estimated being about 12-14 years old!
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
Female
White / Caucasian
Date Body Found: January 1, 1994
Location Found: Tampa, Florida
Estimated Age Range: 11-15 Years
Case Information
Case Numbers
NCMEC Number: --
ME/C Case Number: USF19-018
Demographics
Sex: Female
Race / Ethnicity: White / Caucasian
Possible First Name: --
Possible Middle Name: --
Possible Last Name: --
Possible Nickname: --
Estimated Age Group: Adolescent
Estimated Age Range (Years): 11-15
Estimated Year of Death: --
Estimated PMI: --
Height: Cannot Estimate
Weight: Cannot Estimate
Circumstances
Type: Unidentified Deceased
Date Body Found: January 1, 1994
NamUs Case Created: November 12, 2019
ME/C QA Reviewed: --
Location Found Map
Location: Tampa, Florida 33620
County: Hillsborough County
GPS Coordinates (Not Mapped): --
Found On Tribal Land: No
Circumstances of Recovery:
Juvenile female that is likely 12-14 years old.
Details of Recovery
Inventory of Remains:
Torso not recovered
One or more limbs not recovered
One or both hands not recovered
Condition of Remains:
Not recognizable - Partial skeletal parts only
Physical Description
Hair Color: Unknown
Head Hair Description: --
Body Hair Description: --
Facial Hair Description: --
Left Eye Color: Unknown
Right Eye Color: Unknown
Eye Description: --
Distinctive Physical Features
No Information Entered
Clothing and Accessories
No Information Entered
Please provide links to your posts (it's WS ToS).Seems like a possible match
That would make sense and explain why the two counties are collaborating. Was Billy, his dad William, brother Gary and Robby Mansfield known to troll beaches and malls for victims? Sure looks like dad lead the way..... albeit the wrong way.I do not believe the remains were found at USF; rather, I think they are "owned" by the USF forensic lab (explanation for the unique ID number) and were entered on behalf of Hernando County.
I think there's a possibility that this case is related to the several sets of incomplete unidentified remains found on Billy Mansfield's property in Weeki Wachee in 1981. Here's reporting from the 1981 dig. The investigator for Hernando County is the same and the NamUs entries read very similarly. Those "co-mingled" remains were also dated to the late 1970s, which makes the current rule-outs make sense for this UID. In addition, the UID from this thread (USF19-018) has a sequential USF ID that suggests they are from the same lot as this other Weeki Wachee UID (USF19-017) found on Mansfield's property.
To make your day even worse, Hernando County is STILL in the process of finding bodies on the property.
It seems like Hernando county (and det. George Loydgren) is no longer named as a contributing investigating agency on Tampa Girl's NamUs page, or at least not on her public page. The page was last updated on April 16th.So I noticed that Tampa Girl's NamUs was created November 12th, 2019, and her recon was added June 2nd, meaning this 26 year old case has been heating up quite recently. I must admit I was intrigued to why Hernando county also was named as an investigating agency, so I looked up cold cases in Hernando and came across the unsolved murder of 12 year old Jennifer Odom, who was killed in February 1993. This case has also been heating up lately, due to the possibility of using forensic genealogy to finally catch the perp once and for all. The lead investigator? None other than det. George Loydgren (also the head of the cold case unit). From this link about him solving a rape case from 1983:
The video link posted further down this post is also very informative.
So, here are some questions I've been wondering about: Is there any biological evidence to tie Tampa Girl to Jennifer's case (or another case in Hernando county)? Is Loydgren scouting for potential victims in different counties to tie to a specific case, or gathering ammo, so to speak, against suspected perp to build up a case?
For a case that's been ice cold for as long as Tampa Girl's case with literally no info anywhere, I have a feeling she might be a part of something bigger in the long run, but if that turns out to be a dead-end, I hope this renewed interest in her case leads to her being identified.
Additional sources:
Hernando County Sheriff's Office
Hernando County Sheriff's Office
ETA: Turns out that Jennifer Odom has a thread and that the connection to Tampa Girl's case is also made in that thread! Jeffrey Norman Crum Sr is a POI in Jennifer's case; perhaps Tampa Girl's too?
Jennifer Odom's WS thread:
FL - FL - Jennifer Odom, 12, Blanton, 19 Feb 1993