GUILTY FL - Tricia Todd, 30, Hobe Sound, 27 April 2016 #2

[caveat]

I lost the tweet but it said he was communicating through attorney...... What the hell could he be saying? At this point who can believe him and does it even matter.

Sorry this has really gotten to me

I saw that tweet, too. I think it was another one of those "media takes things out of context" when someone asked Sheriff Snyder if they planned to talk to SW again. Snyder said that the MCSO are no longer allowed to communicate with him and are merely custodians of him; any communication from SW would come through his lawyer now rather than directly to MCSO. As far as I understood it, Snyder never said that SW was actively communicating, but that is how the media tweet made it sound.

 

[Lots2Learn]

[video=twitter;736320368093331456]https://twitter.com/kathleenwalter_/status/736320368093331456[/video]

Man that is horrible what a $&)$);&:&: he is

 

[Greater Than]

I saw that tweet, too. I think it was another one of those "media takes things out of context" when someone asked Sheriff Snyder if they planned to talk to SW again. Snyder said that the MCSO are no longer allowed to communicate with him and are merely custodians of him; any communication from SW would come through his lawyer now rather than directly to MCSO. As far as I understood it, Snyder never said that SW was actively communicating, but that is how the media tweet made it sound.

Yes, that tweet was misleading.

[video=twitter;736289447977816064]https://twitter.com/andrewnruiz/status/736289447977816064[/video]

 

[Pixie Dust]

I lost the tweet but it said he was communicating through attorney...... What the hell could he be saying? At this point who can believe him and does it even matter.

Sorry this has really gotten to me


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Right. He's done nothing but manipulate & lie from the very beginning. He's sitting back reveling in it all.

At news conference, Sheriff said LE can no longer speak with him. The DA can speak to him only via his attorney (or his attorney present) regarding the plea bargain issue, the other site(s) of her remains, etc. He can, of course, OFFER information to LE(via his attorney)...but why would he do that at this point? He believes he's won & outsmarted everyone.

 

[Jen Darme]

I don't know if the location of Hungryland has been posted. It's designated by the top left marker on this ArcGIS map. You can drag the marker down and zoom in or click on the marker and select "zoom to."

From the management site:

An extensive canal network, built during land speculation days, is a haven for pan fish. There also are a few old borrow pits that hold some large bass. You can savor a "cracker" style meal just talking about it. But that's not how the area got its name. The Seminole Indians used the region as a refuge during the Seminole Indian War of 1835, but living off the land quickly proved difficult. Hundreds of starving Indians were captured and sent to Oklahoma. The area became known as "The Hungryland."​

From Palm Beach County's site:

Size: 2,967 acres

The site contains eight native biological communities: mesic flatwoods, hydric flatwoods, strand swamp, dome swamp, hydric hammock, xeric hammock, wet prairie, and depression marsh. Extensive restoration activities over a period of years included removal of 38 miles of dirt roads, 12 miles of canals, 3.4 miles of perimeter berm and ditch, and replacement or repair of 10 culverts; removal of invasive nonnative vegetation; and raising the elevation of the site 1.6 feet to reestablish historic seasonal water levels. A portion of the Ocean to Lake Hiking Trail, part of the Florida Trail passes along the eastern border and through the southern portion of the site. The natural area is part of the Northeast Everglades Natural Area.​

And photos.

 

[MyTooSense21]

Do I even want to ask...where did he get the acid? Surely they have him on camera on 4/25 or 4/26 at some store buying all of these things?

im thinking he would've purchased these items closer to airport in which he flew into...Palm Beach Cty, Ft. Lauderdale, Miami...who knows. Either that or while in route from Airport to either BNB, Hungryland Preserve etc.

 

[SeesSeas]

http://cbs12.com/news/local/slim-ch...rn-plea-deal-for-tricia-todds-killer-attorney

Slim chance judge will overturn plea deal for Tricia Todd's killer: Attorney
BY CORY PIPPIN / FRIDAY, MAY 27TH 2016
HOBE SOUND (CBS12) —

Will Steven Williams get life in prison?

That's the question right now as the State Attorney's Office prepares to argue that the alleged killer broke a plea agreement for only 35 years in prison.

In the plea, Williams still refused to admit guilt. He selected the option acknowledging the plea is in his best interest although he is innocent of the charges or may have defenses to them.

According to Bakkedahl, if a judge rules Williams broke the agreement, the most they can charge him with is 2nd degree murder which would bring a life sentence.

However, local attorney Lance Richard says considering Williams took them to Todd's apparent remains, the chances of a judge overturning the agreement are slim.

More at link:
http://cbs12.com/news/local/slim-ch...rn-plea-deal-for-tricia-todds-killer-attorney

 

[Oddsocks]

This is so so sad. Rip Tricia. Condolences to her family xx

 

[walkingdeadgirl]

http://cbs12.com/news/local/slim-ch...rn-plea-deal-for-tricia-todds-killer-attorney

Slim chance judge will overturn plea deal for Tricia Todd's killer: Attorney
BY CORY PIPPIN / FRIDAY, MAY 27TH 2016
HOBE SOUND (CBS12) —

Will Steven Williams get life in prison?

That's the question right now as the State Attorney's Office prepares to argue that the alleged killer broke a plea agreement for only 35 years in prison.

In the plea, Williams still refused to admit guilt. He selected the option acknowledging the plea is in his best interest although he is innocent of the charges or may have defenses to them.

According to Bakkedahl, if a judge rules Williams broke the agreement, the most they can charge him with is 2nd degree murder which would bring a life sentence.

However, local attorney Lance Richard says considering Williams took them to Todd's apparent remains, the chances of a judge overturning the agreement are slim.

More at link:
http://cbs12.com/news/local/slim-ch...rn-plea-deal-for-tricia-todds-killer-attorney

He got an Alford plea?
I can't even.

 

[Jax49]

http://www.tcpalm.com/news/crime/ma...s-33d38a0e-9efd-3daa-e053-0100-381177241.html

Body parts found were of Todd's lower torso, said sheriff's spokeswoman Christine Christofek, and Friday, officials found body tissue around a burial site, Snyder said.

He also said detectives and teams were working to figure out if it's possible all her remains might have been in the container, some having dissolved.
"But, we cannot rule out the possibility of (some remains) being somewhere other than this site," Snyder said, "and we've recovered enough that it seems to us that the acid in there should not have obliterated everything that we don't have."

 

[Jax49]

I wonder if ground penetrating radar could locate more buried containers (if there are more)? I'm thinking if I were her family I'd consider it worth the effort to keep looking.

 

[SeesSeas]

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/n...ricia-todds-remains-resumes-in-remote-/nrT8P/

Palm Beach Post
7:43 p.m. Friday, May 27, 2016
HOBE SOUND —
It appears Williams on April 27 cut Todd’s body into pieces in the wooded area, 15 miles southwest of her Hobe Sound home, Snyder said. Todd’s partial remains were found inside a plastic container filled with a liquid that investigators believe is acid.
The sheriff’s office ended its search at Hungryland at sundown Friday after finding no other human remains at the preserve. Hungryland will reopen to the public Saturday.
The sheriff’s and the State Attorney’s offices will regroup over the weekend before deciding whether or where to resume the search, said Deputy Christine Cristofek Weiss, sheriff’s spokeswoman. No search efforts were planned for Saturday unless the sheriff’s office receives new information.
Williams brought investigators to the remains as part of his plea deal, which called for a sentence of 35 years in state prison on second-degree murder charges if he led them to Todd’s body. Snyder and Bakkedahl, chief assistant state attorney for the 19th Judicial Circuit, said they believe the dismemberment invalidates the plea deal.

More at http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/n...ricia-todds-remains-resumes-in-remote-/nrT8P/

 

[walkingdeadgirl]

If they are opening the park to the public, does that mean they don't think any more of Tricia's remains will be found there?

 

[SeesSeas]

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/n...ricia-todds-remains-resumes-in-remote-/nrT8P/
. . . On Thursday, crews found Todd’s lower torso . . .

“Lower torso” is abdomen, pelvis, and lower back.

JMO - I’m guessing that all of Tricia’s remains were put in the container. I don’t think Steven Williams would have bothered with an additional burial site, nor would he have taken the chance of a loose body part resting on the ground somewhere.
My thoughts:
The container was only partially filled with acid.
All body parts were put into the container.
All body parts were not covered with the acid.
The lower torso was the last section put into the container and was not submerged in acid.
The body parts in the bottom section of the container dissolved in the acid during the past month.
The lower torso was on top of the other body parts, not submerged in acid, and therefore had not dissolved.
JMO

 

[Lots2Learn]

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/n...ricia-todds-remains-resumes-in-remote-/nrT8P/
. . . On Thursday, crews found Todd’s lower torso . . .

“Lower torso” is abdomen, pelvis, and lower back.

JMO - I’m guessing that all of Tricia’s remains were put in the container. I don’t think Steven Williams would have bothered with an additional burial site, nor would he have taken the chance of a loose body part resting on the ground somewhere.
My thoughts:
The container was only partially filled with acid.
All body parts were put into the container.
All body parts were not covered with the acid.
The lower torso was the last section put into the container and was not submerged in acid.
The body parts in the bottom section of the container dissolved in the acid during the past month.
The lower torso was on top of the other body parts, not submerged in acid, and therefore had not dissolved.
JMO

I remember reading an article stating they didn't think the rest of her remains could have dissolved completely. Going to go look.
We are talking skull... Tricia's death has me digging where I have never dug before
Honestly ill

 

[SeesSeas]

I remember reading an article stating they didn't think the rest of her remains could have dissolved completely. Going to go look.
We are talking skull... Tricia's death has me digging where I have never dug before
Honestly ill

I wasn't sure about that either, so I did some research. Hopefully an expert can chime in.

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/alkaline-hydrolysis-laws-your-state
What Is Alkaline Hydrolysis?
Alkaline hydrolysis is a chemical process that uses a solution of 95% water and 5% potassium hydroxide or sodium hydroxide to reduce a body to components of liquid and bone.
Bone fragments are retained so they can be dried and turned into a substance similar to cremated ashes. The bone byproduct of AH may be scattered, buried, or disposed in any way cremated ashes are handled. Implants such as dental fillings or pacemakers can be easily separated from the bone fragments before the bones are rendered into “ash.”
…………
https://www.academia.edu/7731061/Flush_and_Bone_Funeralizing_Alkaline_Hydrolysis_in_the_US
Flush and Bone: Funeralizing Alkaline Hydrolysis in the US
These systems [AH] were first put to use by US medical schools—notably the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN and the University of Florida’s Shands Hospital in Gainesville—to dispose of donated human cadavers.

Minnesota was the first US state to legalize AH (2003), thereby sanctioning the Mayo Clinic’s interest in hydrolyzing anatomical donations. Minnesota legalized AH under its mortuary laws (149A) in apparent anticipation of commercial funerary offerings of AH, which became a reality in2012 when Twin Cities–based Bradshaw Funeral Services began operating an AH system. In Florida, the city of St. Petersburg’s Water Resource Department (WRD) has closely monitored and restricted the flow of effluent produced by the state’s first commercial AH system, installed at Anderson-McQueen Funeral Home’s Cremation Tribute Center in 2011.

. . . a high-pressure system operating at145 psi can hydrolyze a body in about three hours. . .
In contrast, a low-pressure system operating at 0 psi takes about twelve hours to hydrolyze a body, . . .
……..
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=4828249&page=1
New in mortuary science: Dissolving bodies with lye
………
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2009/12/soluble_dilemma.html
How long does it take to dissolve a human body?
………….
http://resomation.com/about/need-for-change/
A funeral involving Resomation is the same as one involving flame cremation until the point at which the body is committed from public view. In Resomation a special wool coffin is placed into the Resomation chamber, and instead of fire, uses a water and alkali based method – also known as alkaline hydrolysis – to rapidly reduce the body sympathetically to ash. Nature also uses a form of alkaline hydrolysis after burial to help reduce the body to bone.
The process is on average 3-4 hours long and once complete the pure white bone ash that remains is returned to the family in an urn as happens with flame cremation.

 

[Paulas88]

I wasn't sure about that either, so I did some research. Hopefully an expert can chime in.

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/alkaline-hydrolysis-laws-your-state
What Is Alkaline Hydrolysis?
Alkaline hydrolysis is a chemical process that uses a solution of 95% water and 5% potassium hydroxide or sodium hydroxide to reduce a body to components of liquid and bone.
Bone fragments are retained so they can be dried and turned into a substance similar to cremated ashes. The bone byproduct of AH may be scattered, buried, or disposed in any way cremated ashes are handled. Implants such as dental fillings or pacemakers can be easily separated from the bone fragments before the bones are rendered into “ash.”
…………
https://www.academia.edu/7731061/Flush_and_Bone_Funeralizing_Alkaline_Hydrolysis_in_the_US
Flush and Bone: Funeralizing Alkaline Hydrolysis in the US
These systems [AH] were first put to use by US medical schools—notably the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN and the University of Florida’s Shands Hospital in Gainesville—to dispose of donated human cadavers.

Minnesota was the first US state to legalize AH (2003), thereby sanctioning the Mayo Clinic’s interest in hydrolyzing anatomical donations. Minnesota legalized AH under its mortuary laws (149A) in apparent anticipation of commercial funerary offerings of AH, which became a reality in2012 when Twin Cities–based Bradshaw Funeral Services began operating an AH system. In Florida, the city of St. Petersburg’s Water Resource Department (WRD) has closely monitored and restricted the flow of effluent produced by the state’s first commercial AH system, installed at Anderson-McQueen Funeral Home’s Cremation Tribute Center in 2011.

. . . a high-pressure system operating at145 psi can hydrolyze a body in about three hours. . .
In contrast, a low-pressure system operating at 0 psi takes about twelve hours to hydrolyze a body, . . .
……..
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=4828249&page=1
New in mortuary science: Dissolving bodies with lye
………
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2009/12/soluble_dilemma.html
How long does it take to dissolve a human body?
………….
http://resomation.com/about/need-for-change/
A funeral involving Resomation is the same as one involving flame cremation until the point at which the body is committed from public view. In Resomation a special wool coffin is placed into the Resomation chamber, and instead of fire, uses a water and alkali based method – also known as alkaline hydrolysis – to rapidly reduce the body sympathetically to ash. Nature also uses a form of alkaline hydrolysis after burial to help reduce the body to bone.
The process is on average 3-4 hours long and once complete the pure white bone ash that remains is returned to the family in an urn as happens with flame cremation.

Thanks for all your updates SeesSeas.

 

[SeesSeas]

I also did some research on plastic containers resistant to acids:
https://www.tedpella.com/company_html/PlasticsChemResistance.htm
Chemical Resistance of Plastics

E = excellent	This plastic is totally resistant to that substance.
G = good	Influence of that substance for an extended period of time does not cause any or only small defects.
P = partially resistant	If exposed to constant influence, the plastic might possibly lead to hairline cracks and a reduced mechanical strength or discoloration.
N = non-resistant	Plastics are not suitable for use in combination with this substance. Application is not recommended.
- = unknown	no tests available

temp.	20°C	60°C	20°C	60°C	20°C	60°C	20°C	60°C	20°C	60°C
acetic acid up to 10%	E	E	E	E	E	E	E	E	E	G
acetic acid up to 50%	E	E	E	E	E	E	G	G	P	P
potassium hydroxide, conc.	E	E	E	E	E	E	G	G	N	N
sodium hydroxide up to 1%	E	E	E	E	E	E	G	G	-	-
sodium hydroxide up to 50%	E	E	E	E	E	E	G	G	N	N

[TD="colspan: 2"] LD-PE [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"] HD-PE [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"] PP [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"] PS [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"] PC [/TD]

Plastic codes:
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/04/11/plastic-use.aspx
https://www.qualitylogoproducts.com/lib/different-types-of-plastic.htm

 

[MyTooSense21]

Thought I'd share these photos that MCSO shared on their FB page.

 

[2Hope4]

Oh man.....another reason I have a hard time forgiving someone....especially when you don't know what all they have done.

Chainsaw....horrific. Yeah you idiot, she was just laying in the floor...raspy, shallow breathing, and you left her with a cellphone to call for help....yeah, remember that?!?! I wish someone could smack him! The lying piece of lying trash that lies to lies like a liar!